Re: [gentoo-user] Valve Steam on gentoo
Ki rill Lipatov wrote: The disabling of the in-game chat unfortunately doesn't help my problem 2009/12/3 Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com mailto:arttu...@gmail.com On 12/3/09, Kirill Lipatov kirilllipa...@gmail.com mailto:kirilllipa...@gmail.com wrote: For some reason Steam fails to start any games on my gentoo box. I am using wine 1.1.32 with the engine itself and the games all downloaded to gentoo's partition (not the ntfs3g problem). Steam itself loads fine, but when I click launch the game nothing happens. This is very said because Steam is the only reason why I still have to deal with Windows :( Any ideas? You have probably already seen this bug and checked if it matches your problem: http://bugs.gentoo.org/230962 What a lucky discovery the last commenter made there. -- Arttu V. -- Kirill Lipatov klipa...@ku.edu mailto:klipa...@ku.edu Hi list when I setup wine for running windows app I used the winetrick. I had solved various problems when I setup dotnetfx or another components. The link: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks Best regards. __ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 4436 (20090918) __ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
My problem is exactly as others described: Usually, mpd is running and playing my favorite tunes. Then, all of the sudden, I decide that I would like watch some youtube movie, or something, so I stop mpd, watch the movie, but when I want to play my music again mpd complains that the audio device is busy. The only thing that works is to close my browser AND all applications that were started from it (even if they don't use the soundcard at all), which is an annoyance that I didn't had to deal with when using different hardware or older version of alsa. I've tried all the simple solutions I could find, like adding alsasound rc, passing the model=dell-m4 to modprobe, and even messing with asound.conf which only ended up in less usable soundcard. I've noticed that applications access the /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p directly, and I guess they should access some virtual device that will enable the mixing or muxing of audio streams. I couldn't set such device, though. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 7:08 AM, Joshua Murphy poiso...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 8:12 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/2009 01:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote: Hi, On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card (xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one application can access the sound card at a time... I hope Nikos's suggestion will help you, but just in case it doesn't: Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use the sound card at the same time. Do you have a special purpose in mind, such as mixing multiple sound tracks, professional-quality sound editing, film editing with special sound effects, or something similar? If you do, then you will be one of the very few people who actually needs to use pulseaudio, because it will allow multiple applications to use one sound card at the same time. That is the purpose of pulseaudio. But, as I said, very few people really need it. Can you explain more about what you are trying to do? I'm not the OP, but it's been my experience that, when things aren't configured to handle multiple processes using audio, you can't even pause a movie in, say, mplayer to check out the youtube video a friend just pointed you towards... which nowadays, is far from an uncommon thing for a person to expect their computer to handle. Lately, I've had zero issues with alsa pretty much configuring itself properly, given I'm using the in kernel alsa drivers for my systems... and it hasn't required any manual configuration of dmix or similar to function properly. Last time I used a separate sound daemon (aside from a short stent with Ubuntu on my netbook that, I think, had me using pulseaudio), I was running esound to manage audio from a headless box over my network... and ESD was playing nicely with other straight alsa apps on the same box. As a bit of a tip to the OP, since I'm going on about it all working, while for them it isn't... 1) make sure you're using the alsa drivers for your card and not oss (checking lspci -k) and 2) enable oss emulation in the kernel (makes even OLD oss based software work without much argument, in my experience). -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long
Hey! So do people type in Busingen different ways depending on how they feel, do some people always leave off the umlaut, do some always use it? You cannot simply leave the umlaut out since it is considered as a separate letter for itself. You cannot choose whether to write an ö or an o. Like Renat said, there are words that completely change their meaning when exchanging the characters. I think this is especially true if it comes to names. While people get used to spellings like Goettingen for Göttingen, it looks odd and wrong to Germans. Like someone who doesn't have the character on the keyboard ;) Also keep in mind that there are cities that are spelled with oe or ae by design. (Soest, Oelde, Aerzen, Oestinghausen etc.) Those cannot be spelled with an ö instead. It would simply be wrong. Patrick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 10:17:30AM +0100, Patrick Holthaus wrote: You cannot simply leave the umlaut out since it is considered as a separate letter for itself. You cannot choose whether to write an ? or an o. Like Renat said, there are words that completely change their meaning when exchanging the characters. I think this is especially true if it comes to names. While people get used to spellings like Goettingen for G?ttingen, it looks odd and wrong to Germans. Like someone who doesn't have the character on the keyboard ;) Also keep in mind that there are cities that are spelled with oe or ae by design. (Soest, Oelde, Aerzen, Oestinghausen etc.) Those cannot be spelled with an ? instead. It would simply be wrong. OK, that settles it :-) It seems the message you folks are trying to pound into my head is that people don't just casually drop the umlauts and accents. That's what was bugging me -- if it is an extra key or weird combinations like in emacs, maybe people would skip it often enough that we would have to allow for that. This is a better answer than I had feared because now I don't have to sweat weird transliterations. There may still be some, but probably not enough to worry about. Now on to other mysteries, like why our (American) customer thinks people in French Guayana (sp?) are going to write French Guayana for the country name. Even my thick skull doesn't expect people living in Deutschland (probably spelled wrong too, it is very late in a long and tiring day, so apologies in advance, and if it is correct, apologies for not recognizing that :-) to write Germany ... Thanks for not pounding my head too heavily ... -- ... _._. ._ ._. . _._. ._. ___ .__ ._. . .__. ._ .. ._. Felix Finch: scarecrow repairman rocket surgeon / fe...@crowfix.com GPG = E987 4493 C860 246C 3B1E 6477 7838 76E9 182E 8151 ITAR license #4933 I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
walt wrote: Most people don't have any need for more than one application to use the sound card at the same time. As others have pointed out, that depends on your definition of need. Most people don't worry about realtime mixing, but they still want multiple sounds to be able to happen at once in a multi-tasking environment. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command
hi, when i boot my system, at the step Wiping /tmp, it pops up an error message saying that the find command do not support the '-uid' option. in the error message, i also see the busybox mark. it looks like it used the wrong find command. i build the kernel my self, and have a initramfs file. -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Acer Core2Duo only sees 3G of RAM
Xavier Parizet x...@gentooist.com writes: If you want your processes to use more than 3GB of memory, then yes, boot up with a 64bit OS (again correct me if i'm wrong) ;) Or configure your 32bit kernel with HIGHMEM = 64GB
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long
On Freitag 04 Dezember 2009, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: If enough Europeans are in the habit of taking shortcuts and skipping umlauts and accents and cedilla and tildes, we don't. Because skipping Umlaut, accentco creates a completly new word. Probably one that is already there. Munster is a town Müenster/Muenster is a town. You can not drop it. Ever. Only the idiots at cnn and foxnews drop it.
[gentoo-user] only 1 remote machine is receiving distcc jobs
hi, i have 3 machines in my LAN, all of them have distcc installed and are configured to use all 3 machines to compile. on one machine i started emerging a very large ebuild, but only the local machine on of the 2 remote machine is compiling, while the other one is idle. if i change the address order in the /etc/distcc/hosts file, the idle started to work, and the previous working one becomes idle. how can i make all of them work? -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command
Xi Shen writes: when i boot my system, at the step Wiping /tmp, it pops up an error message saying that the find command do not support the '-uid' option. in the error message, i also see the busybox mark. it looks like it used the wrong find command. Did you emerge busybox with the make-symlinks USE flag? When your original find is replaced by a link to busybox. Don't know what to do exactly, most probably many other commands will also not work as expected, I guess you need to re-emerge all stuff that provides them, like findutils. There was a thread recently, look for /bin contains busybox executables after installing busybox-1.13.2 by Amit Dor- Shifer on 2009-11-25. Good luck, Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] only 1 remote machine is receiving distcc jobs
Xi Shen writes: i have 3 machines in my LAN, all of them have distcc installed and are configured to use all 3 machines to compile. on one machine i started emerging a very large ebuild, but only the local machine on of the 2 remote machine is compiling, while the other one is idle. if i change the address order in the /etc/distcc/hosts file, the idle started to work, and the previous working one becomes idle. how can i make all of them work? What ebuild is this? There are some that tweak the MAKEOPTS settings to -j1 because they do not want parallel compilation. Have a look at the ebuild. I would try some other packages, this might not be a bug at all. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
Holger Hoffstaette schrieb: Been using one in my day-to-day workstation under both Windows and Gentoo (with ext4). Did you use any non-default settings when formatting? As Intel-SSDs are back on stock here I have ordered one and I am starting to plan how to reorganize things. I read something of setting stripe-width=128 to fit the erase block size of 512 kB ... dunno if that makes sense. Stefan
Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command
On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:11:21PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked: when i boot my system, at the step Wiping /tmp, it pops up an error message saying that the find command do not support the '-uid' option. in the error message, i also see the busybox mark. it looks like it used the wrong find command. I'm almost sure your problem is identical to that of this thread http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_e25872c93db5f5fbece7abc17ee62c19.xml Cheers, W -- Statistics are like a Bikini: showing interesting details but hiding the important stuff. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1092 days, 14:35
Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command
well, my find is still at /usr/bin/find, and after the system has boot, i can use find command normally. i think my problem is caused by the init script in the initramfs file. in that script, i install busybox with busybox --install -s. but i do not know how to uninstall it, or how to fix my problem. On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 11:44 PM, Willie Wong ww...@math.princeton.edu wrote: On Fri, Dec 04, 2009 at 08:11:21PM +0800, Penguin Lover Xi Shen squawked: when i boot my system, at the step Wiping /tmp, it pops up an error message saying that the find command do not support the '-uid' option. in the error message, i also see the busybox mark. it looks like it used the wrong find command. I'm almost sure your problem is identical to that of this thread http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/msg_e25872c93db5f5fbece7abc17ee62c19.xml Cheers, W -- Statistics are like a Bikini: showing interesting details but hiding the important stuff. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 1092 days, 14:35 -- Best Regards, David Shen http://twitter.com/davidshen84/ http://meme.yahoo.com/davidshen84/
Re: [gentoo-user] only 1 remote machine is receiving distcc jobs
Xi Shen davidshe...@googlemail.com writes: i have 3 machines in my LAN, all of them have distcc installed and are configured to use all 3 machines to compile. on one machine i started emerging a very large ebuild, but only the local machine on of the 2 remote machine is compiling, while the other one is idle. if i change the address order in the /etc/distcc/hosts file, the idle started to work, and the previous working one becomes idle. how can i make all of them work? Try emerging app-misc/mc as a test just in case the package you are using explicitly disables distcc, as Alex Schuster pointed out. It is small and I have always found that it compiles fine with distcc. Just passing on a tip I saw in this forum. Good luck, Roger
[gentoo-user] Baffled by Perl dependancies
After syncing today, emerge now tells me that the 2.020 stable version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress that I've had installed since August requires the testing version of Perl (5.10.1) !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org (20 Sep 2009) # Add perl-5.10 masks (#280724) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.020 [installed]) (dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.020 [installed]) (dependency required by world [argument]) That version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress has been happy with the stable version of Perl (5.8) for the past four months. Why all of a sudden today does it now require Perl 5.10? -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I'm continually AMAZED at at th'breathtaking effects visi.comof WIND EROSION!!
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:14:52 -0500, dhk wrote: I'm using xfce4 and when I run startx or startxfce4 I get errors saying no ati, vesa, fbdev modules and then no windows. Please post the actual error messages. The following is from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file after running startx. This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 i686 Current Operating System: Linux yodels 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Wed Dec 2 13:05:42 EST 2009 i686 Build Date: 20 November 2009 03:26:50PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Dec 4 14:13:55 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x3aa0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:7187:1028:0402 ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc000/268435456, 0xdfde/65536, I/O @ 0xdc00/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 (--) PCI: (0:1:0:1) 1002:71a7:1028:0403 ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] (Secondary) rev 0, Mem @ 0xdfdf/65536 (==) Using default built-in configuration (30 lines) (==) --- Start of built-in configuration --- Section Device Identifier Builtin Default ati Device 0 Driver ati EndSection Section Screen Identifier Builtin Default ati Screen 0 Device Builtin Default ati Device 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Builtin Default vesa Device 0 Driver vesa EndSection Section Screen Identifier Builtin Default vesa Screen 0 Device Builtin Default vesa Device 0 EndSection Section Device Identifier Builtin Default fbdev Device 0 Driver fbdev EndSection Section Screen Identifier Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0 Device Builtin Default fbdev Device 0 EndSection Section ServerLayout Identifier Builtin Default Layout Screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0 Screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0 Screen Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0 EndSection (==) --- End of built-in configuration --- (==) ServerLayout Builtin Default Layout (**) |--Screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0 (0) (**) | |--Monitor default monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default ati Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default ati Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (**) |--Screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0 (1) (**) | |--Monitor default monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default vesa Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default vesa Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (**) |--Screen Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0 (2) (**) | |--Monitor default monitor (**) | |--Device Builtin Default fbdev Device 0 (==) No monitor specified for screen Builtin Default fbdev Screen 0. Using a default monitor configuration. (==) Automatically adding devices (==) Automatically enabling devices (==) FontPath set to: /usr/share/fonts/misc/, /usr/share/fonts/TTF/, /usr/share/fonts/OTF, /usr/share/fonts/Type1/, /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/, /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ (==) ModulePath set to /usr/lib/xorg/modules (II) Cannot locate a core pointer device. (II) Cannot locate a core keyboard device. (II) The server relies on HAL to provide the list of input devices. If no devices become available, reconfigure HAL or disable AllowEmptyInput. (WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory) (II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel (II) System resource ranges: [0] -1 0 0x - 0x (0x1) MX[B] [1] -1 0 0x000f - 0x000f (0x1) MX[B] [2] -1 0 0x000c - 0x000e (0x3) MX[B] [3] -1 0 0x - 0x0009 (0xa)
[gentoo-user] Re: Baffled by Perl dependancies
On 2009-12-04, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: After syncing today, emerge now tells me that the 2.020 stable version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress that I've had installed since August requires the testing version of Perl (5.10.1) !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 have been masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request: - dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword) /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask: # Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org (20 Sep 2009) # Add perl-5.10 masks (#280724) For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook. (dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.020 [installed]) (dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.020 [installed]) (dependency required by world [argument]) That version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress has been happy with the stable version of Perl (5.8) for the past four months. Why all of a sudden today does it now require Perl 5.10? Somehow today's sync broke things. Things seemed to be OK after manually updating perl-IO-Compress and removing perl-IO-Compress-Zlib: emerge perl-IO-Compress emerge -C perl-IO-Compress-Zlib Maybe someday I'll understand Portage, but I doubt it -- it's been 5 years. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! I am covered with at pure vegetable oil and I am visi.comwriting a best seller!
Re: [gentoo-user] Baffled by Perl dependancies
On Friday 04 December 2009 20:31:05 Grant Edwards wrote:
After syncing today, emerge now tells me that the 2.020 stable
version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress that I've had installed
since August requires the testing version of Perl (5.10.1)
!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy ~dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 have been
masked. !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete
your request: - dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86
keyword)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Torsten Veller t...@gentoo.org (20 Sep 2009)
# Add perl-5.10 masks (#280724)
For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
(dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-2.020 [installed])
(dependency required by virtual/perl-IO-Compress-Zlib-2.020
[installed]) (dependency required by world [argument])
That version of virtual/perl-IO-Compress has been happy with
the stable version of Perl (5.8) for the past four months. Why
all of a sudden today does it now require Perl 5.10?
All answers to such questions are contained in the ebuild. Looking into them
is an investigative technique I *highly* recommend. From
virtual/perl-IO-Compress/perl-IO-Compress-2.020.ebuild:
RDEPEND=|| ( ~dev-lang/perl-5.10.1 ~perl-core/IO-Compress-${PV} )
So, virtual/perl-IO-Compress does not in fact DEPEND on perl-5.10.1.
It DEPENDS on either perl-5.10.1 or IO-Compress-2.020
I bet you have the virtual installed and not the explicit ebuild.
emerge =IO-Compress-2.020
ought to solve your problem
--
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] startup script use the wrong find command
On Friday 04 December 2009 17:25:21 Alex Schuster wrote: Xi Shen writes: when i boot my system, at the step Wiping /tmp, it pops up an error message saying that the find command do not support the '-uid' option. in the error message, i also see the busybox mark. it looks like it used the wrong find command. Did you emerge busybox with the make-symlinks USE flag? When your original find is replaced by a link to busybox. That's unlikely. His box will likely not boot if he did that. If it does boot it certainly will not emerge anything. Portage relies on features that are present in GNU utilities and are not there in busybox Don't know what to do exactly, most probably many other commands will also not work as expected, I guess you need to re-emerge all stuff that provides them, like findutils. There was a thread recently, look for /bin contains busybox executables after installing busybox-1.13.2 by Amit Dor- Shifer on 2009-11-25. He likely installed busybox into the initramfs instead of GNU utilities. initramfs on gentoo is not a technique I recommend. It is designed for a general use-case not present in Gentoo[1], and a very few specific cases where an initramfs-less setup cannot work[2[ [1] Binary distros cannot know upfront what the end-user has hardware-wise, so cannot build drivers for everything imaginable into the kernel. An initramfs is an elegant solution, but one which is overkill for Gentoo (the initial statement is usually false) [2] Some specific boot scenarios require an initramfs even on Gentoo - booting off raided volumes where drivers are needed at boot time, encrypted / volumes, / on an LVM volume and a few others In almost all other cases it is simpler and easier to dispense with the initramfs and build two drivers into the kernel. After all, the user in all probability knows exactly what hardware they have -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long
On Friday 04 December 2009 15:42:56 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Freitag 04 Dezember 2009, fe...@crowfix.com wrote: If enough Europeans are in the habit of taking shortcuts and skipping umlauts and accents and cedilla and tildes, we don't. Because skipping Umlaut, accentco creates a completly new word. Probably one that is already there. Munster is a town Müenster/Muenster is a town. You can not drop it. Ever. Only the idiots at cnn and foxnews drop it. And there's always a contrary: In Afrikaans (major ZA language derived from Dutch) there are two accent characters: - deelteken: two dots above certain vowel - kappie:carat-like symbol above certain vowels In all cases, these characters are used simply as modifiers of the vowel. They change inflection or the pronounciation of the vowel, not the letter itself. Sometimes they just make spelling easier: The verb modifier to indicate past tense is the prefix ge and the verb for eat is eet. So ate translates to geeet. Three consecutive e's looks weird so this word is written geëet -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Re: Re: gentoo on ssds? intel anyone?
On Fri, 04 Dec 2009 16:29:56 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: Holger Hoffstaette schrieb: Been using one in my day-to-day workstation under both Windows and Gentoo (with ext4). Did you use any non-default settings when formatting? No. As Intel-SSDs are back on stock here I have ordered one and I am starting to plan how to reorganize things. I read something of setting stripe-width=128 to fit the erase block size of 512 kB ... dunno if that makes sense. Is this for a RAID? I'll gladly admit to complete lack of practical experience wrt. stripe sizes and such. :) All I know is that two days ago I flashed my 160GB G2 with the finally-no-longer-bricking-Windows and TRIM-enabling firmware, and that it just works. You could also try btrfs with 2.6.32, if you're adventurous enough :) (works fine here too) have fun Holger
Re: [gentoo-user] only 1 remote machine is receiving distcc jobs
On 4 Dec 2009, at 13:51, Xi Shen wrote: i have 3 machines in my LAN, all of them have distcc installed and are configured to use all 3 machines to compile. on one machine i started emerging a very large ebuild, but only the local machine on of the 2 remote machine is compiling, while the other one is idle. if i change the address order in the /etc/distcc/hosts file, the idle started to work, and the previous working one becomes idle. Please post the output of `grep -i MAKEOPTS /etc/make.conf`. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
On 12/03/2009 09:08 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: ... Lately, I've had zero issues with alsa pretty much configuring itself properly, given I'm using the in kernel alsa drivers for my systems... and it hasn't required any manual configuration of dmix or similar to function properly. Last time I used a separate sound daemon (aside from a short stent with Ubuntu on my netbook that, I think, had me using pulseaudio), I was running esound to manage audio from a headless box over my network... and ESD was playing nicely with other straight alsa apps on the same box... I discovered a few weeks ago that I could completely delete all traces of arts, pulse, *and* esd, and still I can listen to a podcast from npr.org with firefox and play an mp3 using audacious at the same time. (Which drives me totally nuts, BTW, and I did it only as a test.) As you say, alsa seems to DTRT by itself these days. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the gnome-panel volume/mixer applet is now doing what esound used to do. If you still have esound installed you can try it yourself. Just remove the arts, esd, and pulse USE flags first, then remove any/all of those packages from the machine and revdep-rebuild. It's amazing how many packages are linked against esound and AFAICT they no longer need to be. (This applies to gnome, of course.) OTOH, I haven't tested every sound-related app on my machine, so I might be missing some important exceptions.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
On Fri, 2009-12-04 at 00:36 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 12/03/2009 11:23 PM, Yoav Luft wrote: Hi, On my dell Vostro 1520, with intel hda ICH9 82801I sound card (xSTAC92HD71B3, according to /proc/asound/card0/codec), only one application can access the sound card at a time. This probably means that applications access the hardware, and not some software mixer. I tried to follow information in the alsa wiki (http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html#pcm_plugins_dmix) for setting manually dmix, but couldn't configure anything working. I could find any good documentation (and I don't have plenty of time to dig in it, it's the middle of the semester). Does anyone can help on the topic? I think all you need to do is to put the alsasound service in your default runlevel. rc-update add alsasound default At least that's what I remember doing when I tried ALSA a few months ago. You might need to reboot though so that the card is freed first. I think it is best to add it to the boot runlevel intead of the default.
[gentoo-user] Re: X fails after new install
On 12/04/2009 11:39 AM, dhk wrote: ... I also ran set opengl set ati but that didn't make a difference, now I don't know how to reverse that cammand. I think you mean eselect opengl set ati, don't you? What does eselect opengl list say?
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
On 12/4/2009 2:39 PM, dhk wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:14:52 -0500, dhk wrote: I'm using xfce4 and when I run startx or startxfce4 I get errors saying no ati, vesa, fbdev modules and then no windows. Please post the actual error messages. The following is from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file after running startx. This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 i686 Current Operating System: Linux yodels 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Wed Dec 2 13:05:42 EST 2009 i686 Build Date: 20 November 2009 03:26:50PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Dec 4 14:13:55 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x3aa0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:7187:1028:0402 ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc000/268435456, 0xdfde/65536, I/O @ 0xdc00/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 snip (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.65.4 (II) LoadModule: dri2 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2 (II) UnloadModule: dri2 (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: ati (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati (II) UnloadModule: ati (EE) Failed to load module ati (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: vesa (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa (II) UnloadModule: vesa (EE) Failed to load module vesa (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: fbdev (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: fbdev (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found Try recompiling all your drivers, if the eselect doesn't fix it. Marcus
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X fails after new install
walt wrote: On 12/04/2009 11:39 AM, dhk wrote: ... I also ran set opengl set ati but that didn't make a difference, now I don't know how to reverse that cammand. I think you mean eselect opengl set ati, don't you? What does eselect opengl list say? Yes I meant eselect. eselect opengl list outputs: Available OpenGL implementations: [1] ati * [2] xorg-x11
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
Marcus Wanner wrote: On 12/4/2009 2:39 PM, dhk wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 03 Dec 2009 08:14:52 -0500, dhk wrote: I'm using xfce4 and when I run startx or startxfce4 I get errors saying no ati, vesa, fbdev modules and then no windows. Please post the actual error messages. The following is from the /var/log/Xorg.0.log file after running startx. This is a pre-release version of the X server from The X.Org Foundation. It is not supported in any way. Bugs may be filed in the bugzilla at http://bugs.freedesktop.org/. Select the xorg product for bugs you find in this release. Before reporting bugs in pre-release versions please check the latest version in the X.Org Foundation git repository. See http://wiki.x.org/wiki/GitPage for git access instructions. X.Org X Server 1.6.3.901 (1.6.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2009-8-25 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-gentoo-r8 i686 Current Operating System: Linux yodels 2.6.31-gentoo-r6 #1 SMP Wed Dec 2 13:05:42 EST 2009 i686 Build Date: 20 November 2009 03:26:50PM Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org to make sure that you have the latest version. Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown. (==) Log file: /var/log/Xorg.0.log, Time: Fri Dec 4 14:13:55 2009 (II) Loader magic: 0x3aa0 (II) Module ABI versions: X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4 X.Org Video Driver: 5.0 X.Org XInput driver : 4.0 X.Org Server Extension : 2.0 (II) Loader running on linux (--) using VT number 7 (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:7187:1028:0402 ATI Technologies Inc RV516 [Radeon X1300/X1550 Series] rev 0, Mem @ 0xc000/268435456, 0xdfde/65536, I/O @ 0xdc00/256, BIOS @ 0x/131072 snip (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/linux//libfglrxdrm.so (II) Module fglrxdrm: vendor=FireGL - ATI Technologies Inc. compiled for 1.4.99.906, module version = 8.65.4 (II) LoadModule: dri2 (WW) Warning, couldn't open module dri2 (II) UnloadModule: dri2 (EE) Failed to load module dri2 (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: ati (WW) Warning, couldn't open module ati (II) UnloadModule: ati (EE) Failed to load module ati (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: vesa (WW) Warning, couldn't open module vesa (II) UnloadModule: vesa (EE) Failed to load module vesa (module does not exist, 0) (II) LoadModule: fbdev (WW) Warning, couldn't open module fbdev (II) UnloadModule: fbdev (EE) Failed to load module fbdev (module does not exist, 0) (EE) No drivers available. Fatal server error: no screens found Try recompiling all your drivers, if the eselect doesn't fix it. Marcus I hate to ask . . . how do I recompile all drivers?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. I kindly disagree. ~[arch] is testing for Gentoo ebuild. It's considered stable upstream. This was an upstream bug, not a Gentoo bug. And, as others mentioned, someone's got to be testing stuff and filing reports upstream. It doesn't mean you want to do it, but I really think considering ~ as a test of upstream is rather silly. If this is your idea, run hardened or like slackware. ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
dhk wrote: I hate to ask . . . how do I recompile all drivers? This should do it; emerge $(qlist -C -I x11-drivers/) -1av also make sure hald is running; rc-update show do you have support for evdev included in the kernel? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Try starting X with a blank or minimal xorg.conf http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/faq.xml#xorg-server HTH -- David Abbott (dabbott)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
I ran into a similar problem a good while back where only one sound would play at a time, it was annoying as heck. If I changed desktops, was playing a CD or even just left a tab open with some sound thingy playing, I couldn't hear anything else. I couldn't hear Kopete if someone was trying to get me on messenger, couldn't hear the little bell when I got a new email or anything. Oddly, since I updated my kernel the last few weeks, youtube and flash-like things are whiny. At worst I have to restart firefox and/or alsa. I'm pretty sure it's a simple fix, but, it's slightly irritating. To say that a person only needs to hear one sound at a time is like telling someone to close one eye. Hey man, you're display's only 2D. What do you need that second eye for anyway? Regards, daid
Re: [gentoo-user][SOLVED] troubles with emerge --sync
When I figured out that I was using the wrong march, I switched it out, but forgot to look over the cflags, which still contained -msse3. Hence some improvement but not a total fix. I was thinking of giving my safe cflags a go, when, looking at them and at my regular cflags, I realized that -msse3 didn't belong. Fixed it, emerge -uDNe world, and now emerge --sync works! Based on this experience, I would submit that if you're running Gentoo and seeing SIGILL, double checking your march and your cflags would be a pretty good place to start. Alexander Clark Just for anyone who might be keyword searching, you should guess it might be cflags when you get the error cannot make executables. Gotta love compilers that can't compile anything! ~daid
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
David wrote: dhk wrote: I hate to ask . . . how do I recompile all drivers? This should do it; emerge $(qlist -C -I x11-drivers/) -1av also make sure hald is running; rc-update show do you have support for evdev included in the kernel? http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.5-upgrade-guide.xml Try starting X with a blank or minimal xorg.conf http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/pr/releases/10.0/faq.xml#xorg-server HTH I started hald and rebuilt the drivers: startx still fails.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Need advice from people who use non-ascii all day long
On Fri, 4 Dec 2009 22:50:52 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Three consecutive e's looks weird Are you calling my laptop weird? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick THE BORG: Calm, Cool and Collective... signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: Baffled by Perl dependancies
On 12/04/2009 12:31 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: ... Things seemed to be OK after manually updating perl-IO-Compress and removing perl-IO-Compress-Zlib: emerge perl-IO-Compress emerge -C perl-IO-Compress-Zlib Maybe someday I'll understand Portage, but I doubt it -- it's been 5 years. I've noticed that the 'virtual' packages are shifting sands, they disappear from under your feet :o) Looking in /usr/portage/virtual/ I don't see any perl-IO-Compress-Zlib, so I'm assuming it was removed from portage. I have perl-IO-Compress-Bzip2 installed, which also doesn't exist any longer.
Re: [gentoo-user] X fails after new install
dhk wrote: I started hald and rebuilt the drivers: startx still fails. Please paste the log; emerge wgetpaste cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log |wgetpaste - -- David Abbott (dabbott) Gentoo PR | Trustees
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Baffled by Perl dependancies
walt wrote: On 12/04/2009 12:31 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: ... Things seemed to be OK after manually updating perl-IO-Compress and removing perl-IO-Compress-Zlib: emerge perl-IO-Compress emerge -C perl-IO-Compress-Zlib Maybe someday I'll understand Portage, but I doubt it -- it's been 5 years. I've noticed that the 'virtual' packages are shifting sands, they disappear from under your feet :o) Looking in /usr/portage/virtual/ I don't see any perl-IO-Compress-Zlib, so I'm assuming it was removed from portage. I have perl-IO-Compress-Bzip2 installed, which also doesn't exist any longer. I'm not 100% sure but I think eix-test-obsolete will find things like this. It will also scan the /etc/portage/package.* files and a few other things as well. Be forewarned, the output can be pretty . . . . large. lol It mostly depends on how out of date things are. Mine is usually huge. Thanks goodness for Konsole and being able to scroll up. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
daid kahl wrote: I ran into a similar problem a good while back where only one sound would play at a time, it was annoying as heck. If I changed desktops, was playing a CD or even just left a tab open with some sound thingy playing, I couldn't hear anything else. I couldn't hear Kopete if someone was trying to get me on messenger, couldn't hear the little bell when I got a new email or anything. Oddly, since I updated my kernel the last few weeks, youtube and flash-like things are whiny. At worst I have to restart firefox and/or alsa. I'm pretty sure it's a simple fix, but, it's slightly irritating. I can't remember what I did to fix mine but that was the only time I can recall having sound trouble, other than having to unmute the sound the first time. I'm using 2.6.30-gentoo-r6 right now and I have no sound issues. I don't use modules tho. Everything is built into my kernel except for the nvidia drivers. To say that a person only needs to hear one sound at a time is like telling someone to close one eye. Hey man, you're display's only 2D. What do you need that second eye for anyway? Regards, daid I say that because I have a bad eye. I wish I could see good with both because things sure do look different. I can't just distance for example. When the kids want to play baseball, I see the ball but it looks the same at a distance as it does just before it hits me in the forehead. Well, it is a little bigger at that point. O_o Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Sound card is only usable by one application at a time
On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 4:43 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 12/03/2009 09:08 PM, Joshua Murphy wrote: ... Lately, I've had zero issues with alsa pretty much configuring itself properly, given I'm using the in kernel alsa drivers for my systems... and it hasn't required any manual configuration of dmix or similar to function properly. Last time I used a separate sound daemon (aside from a short stent with Ubuntu on my netbook that, I think, had me using pulseaudio), I was running esound to manage audio from a headless box over my network... and ESD was playing nicely with other straight alsa apps on the same box... I discovered a few weeks ago that I could completely delete all traces of arts, pulse, *and* esd, and still I can listen to a podcast from npr.org with firefox and play an mp3 using audacious at the same time. (Which drives me totally nuts, BTW, and I did it only as a test.) As you say, alsa seems to DTRT by itself these days. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether the gnome-panel volume/mixer applet is now doing what esound used to do. If you still have esound installed you can try it yourself. Just remove the arts, esd, and pulse USE flags first, then remove any/all of those packages from the machine and revdep-rebuild. It's amazing how many packages are linked against esound and AFAICT they no longer need to be. (This applies to gnome, of course.) OTOH, I haven't tested every sound-related app on my machine, so I might be missing some important exceptions. All Gnome's volume/mixer applet does, AFAIK, is the same as alsamixer, on a less cli/ncurses interface... just volume control for the channels the card tells the driver to tell the alsa subsystem it has ;) ... it doesn't have anything more, really, to do with the actual 'mixing' than that, and it works just as well without it, as evidenced by my netbook with ratpoison, no arts, esd, pulseaudio, etc... listening to a radio stream on one aterm that's running mplayer (outputting to bare alsa) and getting prompt and proper alerts from Skype at the same time. 'Course, all the anecdotal evidence in the world won't make the problem the OP is seeing. -- Poison [BLX] Joshua M. Murphy
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
091205 daid kahl wrote: 2 pieces of advice to avoid such problems: (1) never use the 'testing' versions of system pkgs; (2) never run 'emerge world' without the '-p' flag. I kindly disagree. Thanks for the kindly: I thought I'd walked into a high-school locker room. ~[arch] is testing for Gentoo ebuild. It's considered stable upstream. This was an upstream bug, not a Gentoo bug. Yes, my comments didn't respond exactly to the problem reported, but offered more general advice which might help avoid such problems. someone's got to be testing stuff and filing reports upstream. It doesn't mean you want to do it, but I really think considering ~ as a test of upstream is rather silly. The defective version of 'patch' had got into 'testing', where the only remaining problems are supposed to be in the ebuild; in fact in this case, there was still a serious problem upstream that version of 'patch' has been re-masked (I believe). Anyway, don't do testing on the machine you use for everyday computing. If you want to get into testing, use a dedicated machine for it. It's late Friday, so let me stick my neck out again (grins, sighs gets another beer out of the fridge). At least once/month, if not once/week, someone reports on Gentoo User: I did an emerge sync, installed the latest blahblah-1.2.3, did 'emerge world' something dreadful has happened to my system. I've been using Gentoo for more than 6 years it's never happened to me. I believe the reason is that I follow my own advice as above: I do install 'testing' versions of non-vital pkgs (eg 'eix') items which are well-supported upstream (eg KDE, kernel), but I am very cautious about installing testing versions of system pkgs whose collapse would do real damage to my everyday activities. Even when stuff is well-supported upstream, I give it a few weeks to see if there are reports anywhere of bad things happening. Eg I have not moved upto the testing 'eix-0.18.3', because it requires that I replace 'lzma-utils' with 'xz-utils': it's not worth the risk of doing real damage elsewhere simply to get the latest version of 'eix', which is useful but non-essential. When 'xz-utils' reaches 'stable' (and has a less frightening version number), I will happily make the upgrade. Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of 'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging is recommended, then individually 'emerge -pv pkg' -- if all looks well -- 'emerge pkg'. Yes, it takes a bit longer for my weekly update session (tomorrow Sat), but I don't risk the nightmare of reducing my system to chaos with all the extra frantic labor which would result. Again, I've been doing this for 6 years with Gentoo on 2 machines haven't run into any major setbacks. By all means, ignore my advice do it your own ways (smile). -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatchassdotutorontodotca
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Heads up: Your system might be broken and/or insecure due to serious patch-2.6 bug
Philip Webb wrote: The defective version of 'patch' had got into 'testing', where the only remaining problems are supposed to be in the ebuild; in fact in this case, there was still a serious problem upstream that version of 'patch' has been re-masked (I believe). Anyway, don't do testing on the machine you use for everyday computing. If you want to get into testing, use a dedicated machine for it. It's late Friday, so let me stick my neck out again (grins, sighs gets another beer out of the fridge). At least once/month, if not once/week, someone reports on Gentoo User: I did an emerge sync, installed the latest blahblah-1.2.3, did 'emerge world' something dreadful has happened to my system. I've been using Gentoo for more than 6 years it's never happened to me. I believe the reason is that I follow my own advice as above: I do install 'testing' versions of non-vital pkgs (eg 'eix') items which are well-supported upstream (eg KDE, kernel), but I am very cautious about installing testing versions of system pkgs whose collapse would do real damage to my everyday activities. Even when stuff is well-supported upstream, I give it a few weeks to see if there are reports anywhere of bad things happening. Eg I have not moved upto the testing 'eix-0.18.3', because it requires that I replace 'lzma-utils' with 'xz-utils': it's not worth the risk of doing real damage elsewhere simply to get the latest version of 'eix', which is useful but non-essential. When 'xz-utils' reaches 'stable' (and has a less frightening version number), I will happily make the upgrade. Also, I never do a bald 'emerge world'. I look thro' the output of 'eix-sync', write -- with a pencil+paper -- a list of installed pkgs which have changed, run 'emerge -Dup world' to see what order of emerging is recommended, then individually 'emerge -pv pkg' -- if all looks well -- 'emerge pkg'. Yes, it takes a bit longer for my weekly update session (tomorrow Sat), but I don't risk the nightmare of reducing my system to chaos with all the extra frantic labor which would result. Again, I've been doing this for 6 years with Gentoo on 2 machines haven't run into any major setbacks. By all means, ignore my advice do it your own ways (smile). I do somewhat similar to you. I just use the -a option instead and I don't write things down. I just do a emerge -uvDNa world and give it all a once over, USE flags, what gets updated and if I want it etc etc. I also run latest on eix, portage and some of its utils. I try to stay away from unstable system packages as it seems you do as well. I'm still on baselayout 1 and not planning on the openrc thingy yet either. May want to get ready tho, it is coming. I did my first install from a Gentoo 1.4 CD. That was quite a while ago. Dale :-) :-)
