Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
 On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 ...This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier...

 I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
 middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
 that I can't see.

 I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
 knows what
 they are?


Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
on using it instead of the configured size?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Dale

Erik wrote:

2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
   

On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 

...This is the
new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
aquired 5 years earlier...
   

I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
that I can't see.

I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
knows what
they are?
 


Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
on using it instead of the configured size?
   


Are you using hal?  If so, you may need to get or change the config 
files so that it will run at the settings you want instead of what it 
detects.


By the way, I have no idea how to edit them.  It's in xml.  You may can 
google and borrow their config file tho.


If you are not using hal, it should be set in xorg.conf.  I don't use 
hal and that is where mine is set.


Hope that gives you a couple ideas.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 08:13, Dale skrev:
 Erik wrote:
 2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:
   
 On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:

 
 ...This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old
 INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier...

 I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
 middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
 that I can't see.

 I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
 knows what
 they are?
  

 Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
 the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
 differend graphic cards built in). You may know enough to help if you
 are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
 2 lines of my post shows). Do you for example know from where the driver
 gets the bogus physical display size 508 x 317 from, and why it insists
 on using it instead of the configured size?


 Are you using hal?  If so, you may need to get or change the config
 files so that it will run at the settings you want instead of what it
 detects.

 By the way, I have no idea how to edit them.  It's in xml.  You may
 can google and borrow their config file tho.

 If you are not using hal, it should be set in xorg.conf.  I don't use
 hal and that is where mine is set.

Yes I am using hal. Maybe that is the problem. But it is clear from the
log file that xorg.conf is read anyway.



[gentoo-user] get-edid?

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
I installed app-misc/read-edid-1.4.2. It is supposed to install 2 tools;
get-edid and parse-edid. But I only got parse-edid. So I can not use it.
Any help?



Re: [gentoo-user] get-edid?

2010-07-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:59:52 +0200, Erik wrote:

 I installed app-misc/read-edid-1.4.2. It is supposed to install 2 tools;
 get-edid and parse-edid. But I only got parse-edid. So I can not use it.

% qlist read-edid
/usr/sbin/get-edid
/usr/share/man/man1/get-edid.1.bz2
/usr/share/man/man1/parse-edid.1.bz2
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/NEWS.bz2
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/README.bz2
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/AUTHORS.bz2
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/ChangeLog.bz2
/usr/bin/parse-edid

Both are there but note that get-edid is in /usr/sbin so only in root's
path.


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Re: [gentoo-user] get-edid?

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 09:22, Neil Bothwick skrev:
 On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 08:59:52 +0200, Erik wrote:

 I installed app-misc/read-edid-1.4.2. It is supposed to install 2 tools;
 get-edid and parse-edid. But I only got parse-edid. So I can not use it.

 % qlist read-edid
 /usr/sbin/get-edid
 /usr/share/man/man1/get-edid.1.bz2
 /usr/share/man/man1/parse-edid.1.bz2
 /usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/NEWS.bz2
 /usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/README.bz2
 /usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/AUTHORS.bz2
 /usr/share/doc/read-edid-2.0.0-r1/ChangeLog.bz2
 /usr/bin/parse-edid

 Both are there but note that get-edid is in /usr/sbin so only in root's
 path.

Thanks for the help. So version 2.0 has both binaries, but in different
places.

This is what it looks like for the stable version (1.4.2):
% qlist read-edid
/usr/share/man/man1/get-edid.1.lzma
/usr/share/man/man1/parse-edid.1.lzma
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-1.4.2/AUTHORS.lzma
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-1.4.2/README.lzma
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-1.4.2/ChangeLog.lzma
/usr/share/doc/read-edid-1.4.2/NEWS.lzma
/usr/sbin/parse-edid
/usr/lib/debug/usr/sbin/parse-edid.debug


So actually the stable version fails to install get-edid.

(I also had a problem with bash not finding the parse-edid binary after
upgrading to 2.0, since then /usr/sbin/parse-edid was removed and
/usr/bin/parse-edid was added without bash knowing about it. Ctrl+D and
starting the shell again fixed it though.)

Now to the actual result:

/usr/sbin/get-edid: get-edid version 2.0.0

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f00 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

VBE version 300
VBE string at 0x11100 NVIDIA

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Report DDC capabilities

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x0 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call successful

Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC1 transfers
Monitor and video card combination does not support DDC2 transfers
0 seconds per 128 byte EDID block transfer
Screen is not blanked during DDC transfer

Reading next EDID block

VBE/DDC service about to be called
Read EDID

Performing real mode VBE call
Interrupt 0x10 ax=0x4f15 bx=0x1 cx=0x0
Function supported
Call failed

The EDID data should not be trusted as the VBE call failed
Error: output block unchanged


Any idea why it fails? Is that why xorg can not read the display size either? 
If so, why does it just pick a random display size without reporting the error?




Re: [gentoo-user] (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Robert Bridge
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Erik esi...@gmail.com wrote:
 (There are other issues with this video device; it shows only 25 × 80
 characters in the virtual terminals (should be 75 × 240). This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier, with radeon driver. That old device worked fine
 without any configuration files. The physical screen size was detected
 and the virtual kernel output switched to 75 × 240 characters as soon as
 the device was detected.)

Hi Erik,

It would help if you actually told us which driver you are using, and
what the actual hardware is. I'm guessing it's an nVidia card in the
new laptop, and some form of ATI card in the old one. It sounds like
the driver is over-riding the xorg.conf with (incorrect) readings it's
getting from the EDID for the display.

Cheers,
RobbieAB.



Re: [gentoo-user] (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Erik
2010-07-16 09:49, Robert Bridge skrev:
 On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Erik esi...@gmail.com wrote:
   
 (There are other issues with this video device; it shows only 25 × 80
 characters in the virtual terminals (should be 75 × 240). This is the
 new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
 aquired 5 years earlier, with radeon driver. That old device worked fine
 without any configuration files. The physical screen size was detected
 and the virtual kernel output switched to 75 × 240 characters as soon as
 the device was detected.)
 
 Hi Erik,

 It would help if you actually told us which driver you are using, and
 what the actual hardware is. I'm guessing it's an nVidia card in the
 new laptop, and some form of ATI card in the old one. It sounds like
 the driver is over-riding the xorg.conf with (incorrect) readings it's
 getting from the EDID for the display.
   

My /etc/make.conf has VIDEO_CARDS=nv but I thought it was obvious from
the NV in the log message. The actual hardware is reported by lspci as
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce
9600M GS] (rev a1). I tried to use read-edid see what EDID shows, but
the call failed (see other message). How would I know if xorg tried to
read EDID and whether it worked?



Re: [gentoo-user] (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:14:34 +0200, Erik wrote:

 My /etc/make.conf has VIDEO_CARDS=nv but I thought it was obvious from
 the NV in the log message. The actual hardware is reported by lspci as
 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce
 9600M GS] (rev a1). I tried to use read-edid see what EDID shows, but
 the call failed (see other message). How would I know if xorg tried to
 read EDID and whether it worked?

It should appear in the log file. The nvidia driver has UseEdid and
UseEdidDpi options that you could set to False to have it ignore the EDID
information, I don't know if nv has equivalent options.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Hello All

2010-07-16 Thread alex
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Yeahr, some question. How good is Gentoo for a Samba AD  environment?
I want to install my Gentoo at the work, and for my Data i have to
connect to AD. How good will work this with a Gentoo : ?


Greetings Alex




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: viewing .m4v files with totem

2010-07-16 Thread Allan Gottlieb
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:

 On 07/11/2010 07:42 PM, Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 waltw41...@gmail.com  writes:

 What does totem say when you play your m4v file?

 gottl...@ajglap /a/video $ totem Game_Theory_Lect_20_s.m4v
 bt_audio_service_open: connect() failed: Connection refused (111)

 Here's an interesting thread from ubuntu forums:

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1490237

Interesting indeed.

The problem mentioned in that article concerns mplayer, which in my case
can play the .m4v.  However, the comment that bluez causes problem
caused me to wonder why I had it installed and then I checked my USE
flags to see a large list including bluetooth.  I am cleaning up other
things now, but may decide to add -bluetooth to make.conf or more
radically change my profile (currently ...desktop/gnome).

thanks for the pointer.
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] libvirt needs VirtualBox XPCOMC

2010-07-16 Thread App Deb
You should fill a bug then, if you are sure.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:01 PM, Crístian Viana cristiandei...@gmail.comwrote:

 Do you want to use libvirt with virtualbox?


 well, I wanted to make some tests with libvirt and VirtualBox, but I guess
 I'll leave it for some other time. I removed the virtualbox USE flag.

 Else try emerging virtualbox-ose or virtualbox-bin befire libvirt.


 nothing's changed.

 But this is probably a bug?


 I believe so. emerge should never fail, in my opinion. if the ebuild lacks
 a dependency, it should be pulled; if the code doesn't compile, use patches;
 if it has more than one conflicting USE flags, warn the user and use a
 default flag; anyway, it should never fail, specially like that.

 :-)

 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 1:11 PM, App Deb appde...@gmail.com wrote:

 Do you want to use libvirt with virtualbox? If not (say you want to use it
 with kvm or something else) try emerging libvirt without the virtualbox flag
 using package.use .

 Else try emerging virtualbox-ose or virtualbox-bin befire libvirt.

 But this is probably a bug? libvirt should have virtualbox as a dependency
 if the use flag is enabled, I think.

 On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 2:32 AM, Crístian Viana 
 cristiandei...@gmail.comwrote:

 hi,

 when I was trying to emerge the newest libvirt ebuild, the following
 error appeared on configure:

 checking for VirtualBox XPCOMC location... not found
 configure: error: VirtualBox XPCOMC is required for the VirtualBox driver

 what do I need to install to make it work? I'm emerging with the USE
 flags:

 [ebuild U ] app-emulation/libvirt-0.8.2 [0.8.1-r1] USE=libvirtd lxc
 network nls python qemu virtualbox -avahi -caps -iscsi -lvm -macvtap% -nfs
 -numa -openvz -parted -pcap% -phyp -policykit -sasl (-selinux) -udev -uml
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Re: [gentoo-user] Hello All

2010-07-16 Thread Neal Hogan
I'd start a new thread ;-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Hello All

2010-07-16 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 13:18:38 -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:

 I'd start a new thread ;-)

I'd avoid top-posting :P


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[gentoo-user] Re: 2.6.34 kernel compile error: DRM problem?

2010-07-16 Thread Grant
 I tried to update my laptop and desktop to 2.6.34 but compilation
 fails with this error:

 drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_dma.c: In function 'i915_switcheroo_can_switch':
 drivers/gpu/drm/i915/i915_dma.c:1419: error: invalid operands to
 binary == (have 'atomic_t' and 'int')

 or:

 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_state.c: In function
 'nouveau_switcheroo_can_switch':
 drivers/gpu/drm/nouveau/nouveau_state.c:394: error: invalid operands
 to binary == (have 'atomic_t' and 'int')

 They compile if I disable DRM.  I've tried with and without
 CONFIG_VGA_SWITCHEROO with the same result.  Does anyone know how to
 fix this?  I'm trying to use hardened-sources-2.6.34 from the anarchy
 overlay on both systems.

 - Grant

Any idea on this guys?

- Grant



[gentoo-user] xkb definitions

2010-07-16 Thread Andrey Vul
Are there guides on making custom xkb layout(s)? I want to use a
custom phonetic Russian layout without requiring a UTF-8 keyboard
tr/iconv equivalent (echo qwerty | kbtr -f qwerty -t yazherty)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot hangs after install, no error

2010-07-16 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 27 June 2010 10:50:55 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 26 June 2010 18:31:05 James Wall wrote:
  You could also check out Pappy's Kernel Seeds at
  http://www.kernel-seeds.org.org/
 
 I will - thanks.

Turned out it was much simpler than kernel config - it was BOINC. Now all 
I have to do is to find more suitable parameters for it on a 4-core box.

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[gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread walt

On 07/15/2010 11:03 PM, Erik wrote:

2010-07-16 01:51, walt skrev:

On 07/15/2010 02:15 AM, Erik wrote:


...This is the
new Dell vostro|1720 from November, that replaced the old INSPIRON|8600
aquired 5 years earlier...


I feel as if I'm reading a post that I selected at random from the
middle of a long thread with lots of previous questions and answers
that I can't see.

I've never heard of either of those products.  Maybe someone else
knows what they are?




Do not worry about not knowing about the products that I mentioned in
the parenthesis in the last paragraph (they are just some laptops with
differend graphic cards built in).


Ah, I understand now.  I was expecting the information to be relevant.


You may know enough to help if you
are familiar with Xorg, in particular the driver called NV (as the first
2 lines of my post shows)...


I know a little about it.  It is no longer maintained by xorg or nvidia, so
that may be part of the problem if you are using recent nvidia hardware.

A commonly asked question is does it work as expected with the vesa driver?
(Vesa does not include 2D/3D acceleration, obviously, but it should at least
give you correct results for an ordinary console.)

The open-source 'nv' driver has been replaced by the open-source 'nouveau'
driver, which is still very much a work in progress.  I'm using it just to
experiment -- I don't need 2D/3D acceleration, but maybe you do.  If so, you
need to use nvidia's proprietary 'nvidia' driver because it's the only choice
you have at present.

All of the drivers I mentioned are in gentoo portage in the xf86-video-* series.

nouveau suppport in the kernel needs a bit of annoying fiddling with the
kernel config file to get it right.  I can help with that if you want to try
it.




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Any centralized documentation on qemu-kvm?

2010-07-16 Thread walt

On 07/15/2010 09:13 PM, Walter Dnes wrote:

On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:15:59PM -0700, walt wrote


Well, wait a sec.  I track both qemu and qemu-kvm from their git
repositories rather than the gentoo packages, so YMMV.


[...deletia...]


qemu-kvm does not supply a command named 'qemu', so there is no name
conflict in that particular case.


   Gentoo seems to differ...

waltd...@i3 ~ $ equery belongs `which qemu`
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/qemu in *... ]
app-emulation/qemu-kvm-0.12.4-r1 (/usr/bin/qemu)


Interesting.  Maybe the gentoo packages add a wrapper script to allow
both to be installed in /usr/bin?  Is /usr/bin/qemu a binary, or a script?




[gentoo-user] Re: (II) NV(0): Setting screen physical size to 508 x 317

2010-07-16 Thread walt

On 07/16/2010 01:14 AM, Erik wrote:

...The actual hardware is reported by lspci as
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G96 [GeForce
9600M GS] (rev a1).


That seems to be very new hardware.

I'm using xf86-video-nouveau-0.0.16_pre20100615, and in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log
I see:

(II) NOUVEAU driver for NVIDIA chipset families :
RIVA TNT(NV04)
RIVA TNT2   (NV05)
GeForce 256 (NV10)
GeForce 2   (NV11, NV15)
GeForce 4MX (NV17, NV18)
GeForce 3   (NV20)
GeForce 4Ti (NV25, NV28)
GeForce FX  (NV3x)
GeForce 6   (NV4x)
GeForce 7   (G7x)
GeForce 8   (G8x) -- oops! stops at GF8
(II) Primary Device is: PCI 0...@00:00:0