Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
On Sun, Jul 25, 2010 at 6:06 PM, Dale wrote: > Neil Bothwick wrote: > >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:46:23 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: >> >> >> >>> Or just right click on the "K" thingy and select "menu editor". >>> Yeah, it's right there in K -> Programs -> Settings, but only because I >>> put it there, with kmenuedit. >>> >>> >> Dale was referring to RIGHT clicking the K menu, which give a short menu >> that includes Menu Editor. but I think this only appears if you have >> selected the KDE-for-old-farts (AKA classic) menu layout. >> >> >> > > Should be there for both. That was how I switched it to the old style. > I'm pretty sure the menu is the same for both. Then again, I have updated > KDE a couple times since then too. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > > I see it on the new version (KDE 4). -- Bill Longman
[gentoo-user] cursor problem with compositing, KDE, nVidia
I've googled a little, but searching for problems with KDE and nVidia still turns up so many horrors from the KDE 4.0 days that I can't find my current problem in the haystack. After updating to KDE 4.4.4, my cursor disappeared. Occasionally, I'd see it briefly, but mostly it was invisible. I turned off compositing, and everything is ok. But I am spoiled by some of the compositing features, esp. the quick ways to see all open windows, so I want it back. Complete solutions are of course welcome :) but I'd be very happy with any pointers about what settings to consider for xorg (1.7.6) or nvidia-drivers (195.36.24) or KDE. (I may be slow to respond, very busy this week.) -- »Q« Kleeneness is next to Gödelness.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:46:23 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: Or just right click on the "K" thingy and select "menu editor". Yeah, it's right there in K -> Programs -> Settings, but only because I put it there, with kmenuedit. Dale was referring to RIGHT clicking the K menu, which give a short menu that includes Menu Editor. but I think this only appears if you have selected the KDE-for-old-farts (AKA classic) menu layout. Should be there for both. That was how I switched it to the old style. I'm pretty sure the menu is the same for both. Then again, I have updated KDE a couple times since then too. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Sun, 2010-07-25 at 22:08 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On Sunday 25 July 2010 10:18:33 Dale wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > [snip] > > > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. > > Here in Africa we use pythons for that. > > Real genuine live 10 foot snakes. In a terrarium of course. > > Trust me, it takes about 30 seconds after the first housekeeping person sees > it until none of them goes anywhere near your stuff. > > :-) > I like the idea of pythons, as they swallow the prey whole its much less messy than the redback spiders suggested for use here in West Oz ... someone would have to clean up the bodies in the morning. Must be a coincidence, didnt update the MBR after installing grub and failed to boot this morning - though the signs are more like disk failure - even the live CD isnt helping :( Another job for tonight when I get home. BillK
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:46:23 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote: > > Or just right click on the "K" thingy and select "menu editor". > > Yeah, it's right there in K -> Programs -> Settings, but only because I > put it there, with kmenuedit. Dale was referring to RIGHT clicking the K menu, which give a short menu that includes Menu Editor. but I think this only appears if you have selected the KDE-for-old-farts (AKA classic) menu layout. -- Neil Bothwick A wok is what you throw at a wabbit. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] kdeplasma-addons-4.4.4 fails
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 9:58 PM, James wrote: > Hello, > > I've manage to update several system (amd64 kde 4.4.4) > but one is just giving me fits. > > I've rebuilt libpng per flameyes blog post: > http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2010/06/29/stable-users-libpng-update. > > I've emerge -e system and used revdep-rebuild > many times (clean now). Still kdeplasma-addons fails to > build on this one system: > > 45 Generating ui_LancelotWindowBase.h > > python3.1 * > x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.3 * > dev-util/cmake-2.8.1-r2 > > > Any suggestions would be welcome > any updates on this? I'm having exactly the same problem! > > > James > > > > > -- David Kurka
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
Dale writes: > Alex Schuster wrote: > > Kevin O'Gorman writes: > >> I'm using KDE 4 on Gentoo, and I want to add a few items to the "K" > >> (application launcher) menu. > >> I thought the control center was the thing to use, and the online > >> help manual says it should exist on the "K" menu, or as the program > >> "kcontrol". > > > > That's how it was called in KDE 3, now it's "systemsettings". But you > > are looking for "kmenuedit", in the kde-base/kmenuedit package. > > > > Wonko > > Or just right click on the "K" thingy and select "menu editor". Yeah, it's right there in K -> Programs -> Settings, but only because I put it there, with kmenuedit. Wonko
[gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers
Florian Philipp f_philipp.fastmail.net> writes: > I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility > Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect > Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? Well, lots of good information previously posted. Here's a few more tidbits. When ATI video get's older, there's always good opensource solutions to keep using it. Nvidia, sometimes you toss in garbage can, or use vesa or get lucky? Dunno, as I personally avoid Nvidia; other insist on Nvidia. kinda a religious thing with some. For example, I have a fanless ATI video card ATI Technologies Inc RV710 [Radeon HD 4350] where I'm currently using ati-drivers. Sweet enough for most video gaming, silent and power efficient. I just got this card, but have not set it up yet: HIS Radeon HD 5550 Low Profile Video Card, also fanless. There is new support, open source, in the kernel for ATI video, Look here under graphics: http://kernelnewbies.org/LinuxChanges and here: http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd So I use ati-drivers on the newer ati video cards, then switch to open source drivers, as the hardware matures or support, via open sources, becomes robust for a given generation of ATI video product. One thing to remember; It's kind of difficult to change the video card on a laptop ymmv;hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Sunday 25 July 2010 17:24:46 cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: > > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. > > You don't need to invalidate the journal or mount ext2, just use -f if > memory serves, be sure the partition is unmounted and that will force a > full check. Yes, -f does seem to be the right option. It's been ages since I used ext3 and I have no real way to do a test, so I played safe. And the man page could be a little more descriptive too, -f left me with more questions than answers. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Sunday 25 July 2010 10:18:33 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: [snip] > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. Here in Africa we use pythons for that. Real genuine live 10 foot snakes. In a terrarium of course. Trust me, it takes about 30 seconds after the first housekeeping person sees it until none of them goes anywhere near your stuff. :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
Alex Schuster wrote: Kevin O'Gorman writes: I'm using KDE 4 on Gentoo, and I want to add a few items to the "K" (application launcher) menu. I thought the control center was the thing to use, and the online help manual says it should exist on the "K" menu, or as the program "kcontrol". That's how it was called in KDE 3, now it's "systemsettings". But you are looking for "kmenuedit", in the kde-base/kmenuedit package. Wonko Or just right click on the "K" thingy and select "menu editor". Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
Kevin O'Gorman writes: > I'm using KDE 4 on Gentoo, and I want to add a few items to the "K" > (application launcher) menu. > I thought the control center was the thing to use, and the online help > manual says it should exist on the "K" menu, or as the program > "kcontrol". That's how it was called in KDE 3, now it's "systemsettings". But you are looking for "kmenuedit", in the kde-base/kmenuedit package. Wonko
[gentoo-user] KDE control center missing?
I'm using KDE 4 on Gentoo, and I want to add a few items to the "K" (application launcher) menu. I thought the control center was the thing to use, and the online help manual says it should exist on the "K" menu, or as the program "kcontrol". It doesn't, and the list of files for "kcontrol" contains *no* files of that name, and only one directory (under HTML) of that name. So how to I run the darned thing? -- Kevin O'Gorman, PhD
[gentoo-user] Re: State of Radeon drivers
On 07/25/2010 07:00 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: Hi list! I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? Suspend should work. 3D however is too slow. You'd be better of using the proprietary driver, especially since on a notebook you want to have increased battery life; the open source driver doesn't provide good power management.
Re: [gentoo-user] State of Radeon drivers
On 07/25/2010 06:00 PM, Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! > > I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility > Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect > Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? > > Thanks in advance! > Florian Philipp > Open Source (x11-drivers/xf86-video-ati) and Close Source drivers (x11-drivers/ati-drivers) do both work with suspend2ram. From this mailing list (my post) 06/24/2010 10:22 AM +0200, Subject "Re: [gentoo-user] ATI RV710/730" in regards to ATI only: - ATI: 3D is very good - a must for gaming, 2D is SLOW! (thou they did something about that with 10.6 - experience differs for users - its said that window management is fast now, but video still has tearing effect [also my exp.]) Latest driver (10.6) work with xorg-server-1.7.x only and kernel module has problems with >=2.6.34 (exp. differ). Xorg: 3D is basic and very slow but works (the newer the driver/server the better, development is VERY fast), 2D is a dream (very fast, no tearing with video)! Driver is released with Xorg - so work always with newest Xorg, kernel module is in-kernel - work always with newest kernel :) Driver supports both KMS and user space MS. - So... for buying... if u need only 2D (and basic 3d) -> intel. If you want to play games: nvidia or ati/amd... The OSS-driver 4 ATI is MUCH more mature and ATI/AMD gives out documentation and also develops - work is going very well, but will take time for 3d to catch up. Still for OSS -> ATI. The closed source drivers of nvidia are much better (very fast match new kernels and Xorg releases) than the closed source drivers of ati (they are like a year behind kernel/xorg releases)! So if you plan on being always on closed source drivers (because you game often or use 3D-software for modeling or so) then x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers works better. The nvidia driver also offers hardware accelerated HD-video playback (1080p H264 -> only 10% CPU, rest in GPU). Bye, Daniel -- PGP key @ http://pgpkeys.pca.dfn.de/pks/lookup?search=0xBB9D4887&op=get # gpg --recv-keys --keyserver hkp://subkeys.pgp.net 0xBB9D4887 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] State of Radeon drivers
On Sonntag 25 Juli 2010, Florian Philipp wrote: > Hi list! > > I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility > Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect > Suspend2Ram, depends on a lot more things than the graphic adapter. > 3d acceleration etc to work stable? yes
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: > > > >>> You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the > >>> journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not > >>> the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a way > >>> to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. Maybe > >>> an ext user will chip in with the correct method > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 > >> /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. > >> > > It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. > > > > An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not > > uncover > > deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I couldn't find the > > way to do that though), but this will also work: > > > > Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" and > > fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets recreated > > on > > the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a while on a large > > fs. > > > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > > > > > > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. You don't need to invalidate the journal or mount ext2, just use -f if memory serves, be sure the partition is unmounted and that will force a full check. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com
[gentoo-user] State of Radeon drivers
Hi list! I have a quick question: I plan to buy a notebook with an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250. How well would that one work? Can I reasonably expect Suspend2Ram, 3d acceleration etc to work stable? Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Sunday 25 July 2010 09:18:33 Dale wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: > >>> You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the > >>> journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not > >>> the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a > >>> way to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. > >>> Maybe an ext user will chip in with the correct method > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 > >> /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. > > > > It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. > > > > An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not > > uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I > > couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: > > > > Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" > > and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets > > recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a > > while on a large fs. > > > > When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. > > And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. > ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. KH, I think that this may not be related to a fs error as such. Yes, pulling the plug may have caused fs corruption. However, more likely is that pulling the plug did not allow you to do something that you should have done after you finished upgrading to grub-0.97-r9. The latest installation of grub asks you to reinstall in the MBR and point its root to wherever your /boot is. GRUB's fs and its drivers may have changed and therefore the old boot loader code is looking for files that no longer exist. So you'll probably be alright again if you boot with a fresh systemrescue LiveCD and run grub and then root (hd) and setup (hd0) before you quit and reboot. If that doesn't work then you most likely have a fs problem. HTH. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] gspca_zc3xx and kernel 2.6.34-r1
Hi All, I was using the gspca_zc3xx module with kernel 2.6.32-r7 without any problem but webcam does not work since I upgrade to 2.6.34-r1(x 86 stable) My webcam is : A4 tech PK-635M and I am using wxcam (my own ebuild) Also I have tried with kopete and cheese but result is same. I have tried with ubuntu 10.04 (kernel 2.6.32.xxx) and it is working as good. I guess there is a bug in the 2.6.34.xx series? When I run the wxcam with command line I am getting some errors and blank screen(same with kopete and cheese) : Determining video4linux API version... Using video4linux 2 API VIDIOC_ENUM_FRAMESIZES: Invalid argument V4L2_CID_SATURATION is not supported Determining pixel format... pixel format: JPEG Found V4L2_PIX_FMT_JPEG pixel format VIDIOC_DQBUF: Input/output error #emerge --info Portage 2.1.8.3 (default/linux/x86/10.0/desktop, gcc-4.4.3, glibc-2.11.2-r0, 2.6.34-gentoo-r1 i686) = System uname: Linux-2.6.34-gentoo-r1-i686-AMD_Athlon-tm-_64_X2_Dual_Core_Processor_3800+-with-gentoo-1.12.13 Timestamp of tree: Fri, 23 Jul 2010 11:45:03 + app-shells/bash: 4.0_p37 dev-java/java-config: 2.1.11 dev-lang/python: 2.6.5-r2, 3.1.2-r3 dev-util/cmake: 2.6.4-r3 sys-apps/baselayout: 1.12.13 sys-apps/sandbox:1.6-r2 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.65 sys-devel/automake: 1.9.6-r3, 1.10.3, 1.11.1 sys-devel/binutils: 2.20.1-r1 sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.3-r2 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.4.1 sys-devel/libtool: 2.2.6b virtual/os-headers: 2.6.30-r1 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="x86" ACCEPT_LICENSE="*" CBUILD="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" CHOST="i686-pc-linux-gnu" CONFIG_PROTECT="/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb" CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK="/etc/ca-certificates.conf /etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/fonts/fonts.conf /etc/gconf /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/sandbox.d /etc/terminfo" CXXFLAGS="-O2 -march=native -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer" DISTDIR="/usr/portage/distfiles" FEATURES="assume-digests distlocks fixpackages news parallel-fetch protect-owned sandbox sfperms strict unmerge-logs unmerge-orphans userfetch" GENTOO_MIRRORS="rsync://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo http://gentoo.mirrors.tds.net/gentoo"; LANG="tr_TR.UTF-8" LDFLAGS="-Wl,-O1" LINGUAS="tr" MAKEOPTS="-j3" PKGDIR="/usr/portage/packages" PORTAGE_CONFIGROOT="/" PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS="--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --stats --timeout=180 --exclude=/distfiles --exclude=/local --exclude=/packages" PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" PORTDIR="/usr/portage" PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/var/lib/layman/roslin /var/lib/layman/gentoo-china /var/lib/layman/steev /var/lib/layman/sunrise /var/lib/layman/jasiu /usr/local/portage" SYNC="rsync://rsync.europe.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage"
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a way to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. Maybe an ext user will chip in with the correct method Hi, I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a while on a large fs. When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. And I would stand guard to make sure housekeeping doesn't come around. ;-) Cutting power during all this wold not be good. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Problems booting my server - ext2 - e2fsck
On Sunday 25 July 2010 06:57:43 KH wrote: > > You said you ran e2fsck and it was OK. What was the command? > > > > > > > > Normally with an e2fsck on a journalled fs, the app will replay the > > journal and make a few minor checks. This takes about 4 seconds, not > > the 40 minutes it takes to do a ful ext2 check. > > > > > > > > I think you might need to fsck without the journal. I know there's a way > > to do this but a cursory glance at the man page didn't reveal it. Maybe > > an ext user will chip in with the correct method > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > I ran on the two partitions e2fsck /dev/sde3 as well as fsck.ext3 > /dev/sde3 . Yes, it only took some seconds. It's been a long time since I used ext3 so some of this might be wrong. An fsck that takes a few seconds is using the journal, which might not uncover deeper corruption. You should try disabling the journal (I couldn't find the way to do that though), but this will also work: Boot of a LiveCD, mount your root partition somewhere using type "ext2" and fsck it. This will invalidate the journal but that's OK, it gets recreated on the next proper boot. Let the fsck finish - it will take a while on a large fs. When done, reboot as normal and see if the machine boots up properly. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
