Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread Mick
On Monday 03 January 2011 01:21:46 fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 12:33:18AM +, Mick wrote:
  On Sunday 02 January 2011 21:18:14 fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
   On Sun, Jan 02, 2011 at 01:07:40PM -0800, walt wrote:
On 01/02/2011 11:25 AM, fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 My 1.9.2 upgrade didn't lose the keys, but it thinks the screen has
 fewer pixels than before, and what it does use is pushed off to the
 right (there is a column down the left side, roughly 10-20% of the
 screen, which is inaccessible).
 
 I've included 3 logs -- the working 1.8.2, the failing 1.9.2, and
 the failing /var/log/Xorg.0.log...

The 'failing' log shows that the new Xorg-server is using the MACH64
driver, but your 'working' 1.8.2 log is truncated, so it doesn't tell
us which video driver it was using successfully.
   
   I'm about 99% certain that it has always used the mach64 driver.  I
   wish I had an old enough backup to recover an old log, but this
   current size screwup has been in effect for a while.  It's mostly a
   server, so X isn't vital, but I do want to get it working again.
   
Given only 8MB of video memory, maybe the vesa driver would work
better? Dunno.  Does your BIOS have a setting for the video
aperture?
  
  You may get better results if you enable KMS in your kernel.
 
 Hmmm ... I hadn't remembered KMS until I googled it, so I tried this ...
 
 # grep KMS /usr/src/linux/.config
 CONFIG_DRM_KMS_HELPER=m
 CONFIG_DRM_RADEON_KMS=y
 # CONFIG_DRM_I915_KMS is not set
 
 Is that good enough?  I gather I915 is the Intel graphics.
 
 I modprobe'd drm_kms_helper and the resultant Xorg log was exactly the
 same except for one date/time stamp and all those [nn.nnn] times
 at the beginning of each line.
 
 I bit of googling found several old web pages, but they seemed somehow
 not very useful.  One said I have to disable the framebuffers, not
 because they are dangerous, but because they don't support KMS.  Since
 X unloads the framebuffer module, I won't worry about that.

KMS won't work with framebuffer modules like vesa/uvesa/radeonfb/etc. unless 
you also add nomodeset at the kernel line in GRUB.

Instead of me repeating it all, I suggest you have look at:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xm

(but ignore what it says about HAL and its .fdi configuration files, because 
it is out of date with xorg-server-1.9.2)

and also read:

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: nvidia update problems

2011-01-03 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday 02 January 2011 15:51:24 walt wrote:
 On 01/02/2011 03:51 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  It looks as though the boot sequence is going wrong somehow,
  because when I get my initial blank screen, if I then switch to a
  VT and restart xdm, everything works as expected.
 
 Just for clarification, are you saying that you can do that even
 without re-emerging nvidia-drivers?

Exactly so - without doing anything other than restarting KDM. This is 
an ~amd64 box, by the way.

 So, when you first switch to the VT, the nvidia module is already
 loaded?

Yes; without it I wouldn't see a blinking cursor. I think the raster 
would be absent too if nothing were driving the hardware. The boot 
sequence is complete.

 Is there an X session already running before you restart
 kdm?  (I don't use any of *dm, so I don't know if they are X apps
 that require X to be running before they can write to the screen.)

As far as I know, KDM starts X itself. At VT4 (which I use habitually 
for root logins) I issue the command:

$ /etc/init.d/xdm restart  logout

which starts the KDM session as normal.

-- 
Rgds
Peter.  Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.



Re: [gentoo-user] How 2 disable synaptic pad (driver)

2011-01-03 Thread Mick
On Monday 03 January 2011 07:57:10 x...@synapse.plus.com wrote:
 On Mon, 03 Jan 2011, James wrote:
  Hello, so I got xorg-server
  working just fine on several machines...(*!/#FFF)
  
  Now I want to disable the synaptic pad on a laptop.
  The first laptop I want to do this to is working without
  any xorg.conf file nor a /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ dir.
  
  This chipset is a RADEON XPRESS 20M (5955)
  
  So is this file the best one to try to disable the synaptic driver?
  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
  
  Suggestions are most welcome as googling has not
  produced much, related to xorg-server-1.9.2
  and how to disable the synaptic pad (driver).
  
  James
 
 hi james,
 
 i know of 2 methods - either using synclient or xinput. if the synclient
 method doesn't work, simply install xinput and the latter one should work.
 
 
 
 cat ~/bin/toggle-touchpad
 #/bin/sh
 # synclient version
 if(synclient -l | grep TouchpadOff | grep -q 0) ; then
 synclient TouchpadOff=1
 else
 synclient TouchpadOff=0
 fi
 
 
 
 cat ~/bin/toggle-touchpad
 #/bin/sh
 # xinput version
 if(xinput list-props TouchPad | grep Synaptics Off | grep -q 0) ; then
xinput set-int-prop TouchPad Synaptics Off 8 1
 else
xinput set-int-prop TouchPad Synaptics Off 8 0
 fi
 
 

Or if you want to use the xorg configuration files you can try creating:

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf

and adding the option:

 Option TouchpadOff 1

under the synaptics class, or set it to 2 if you want only tapping  
scrolling switched off.

If this does not work (as was the case here) then you can instead modify  
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf (but will be overwritten when you 
remerge/update evdev).

If this still does not work sigh... then evdev will not do it - you need 
instead the synaptics driver to load and capture the events from your 
touchpad.  I assume that this may be a rare case, but since I came across it 
this is what you need to try:

Add Option AllowEmptyInput off in your Section ServerLayout of 
/etc/X11/xorg.conf.

Then modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf or 
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-synaptics.conf and add Option TouchpadOff 1 
in there.

Theoretically, files in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ should take precedence over 
files in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/, but practically this is not always the 
case.

HTH
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] Re: nvidia update problems

2011-01-03 Thread walt

On 01/03/2011 02:11 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

On Sunday 02 January 2011 15:51:24 walt wrote:

On 01/02/2011 03:51 AM, Peter Humphrey wrote:

It looks as though the boot sequence is going wrong somehow,
because when I get my initial blank screen, if I then switch to a
VT and restart xdm, everything works as expected.


Just for clarification, are you saying that you can do that even
without re-emerging nvidia-drivers?


Exactly so - without doing anything other than restarting KDM. This is
an ~amd64 box, by the way.


So nvidia.ko is not the problem then.(Unless it's being loaded too late
in the boot sequence.)


Is there an X session already running before you restart
kdm?  (I don't use any of *dm, so I don't know if they are X apps
that require X to be running before they can write to the screen.)


As far as I know, KDM starts X itself. At VT4 (which I use habitually
for root logins) I issue the command:

$ /etc/init.d/xdm restart  logout

which starts the KDM session as normal.


I'm wondering if you have some mixture of baselayout versions on that
machine from previous updates.  A glance through the many relevant
files in /etc/env.d/, /etc/conf.d/, /etc/X11*, /etc/rc.conf, /etc/init.d
leaves me confused about what happens during xdm startup.

Could your machine be trying to start something other than kdm by mistake?
I.e., maybe you are starting kdm for the first time from the VT instead of
re-starting it?

I'd try touch /etc/.noxdm and reboot, then log in and do /etc/init.d/xdm
start again.  If that also works perfectly then I'd guess there is something
in the list of directories above that is mis-configured -- my guess would
be that the bootscripts are trying to start the wrong xdm -- just a SWAG :)




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: UPS driver error

2011-01-03 Thread Mick
On Sunday 02 January 2011 09:42:29 Francesco Talamona wrote:

 I think is an issue with the UDEV rules.
 At the end of /etc/udev/rules.d/10-local.rules I put this line for my
 liebert USB UPS:
 
 SUBSYSTEMS==usb,ATTRS{idVendor}==10af,ATTRS{idProduct}==0004,SYMLINK+
 =liebert- ups MODE=0660, GROUP=nut, OPTIONS=last_rule
 
 and in
 /etc/nut/ups.conf
 
 user = nut
 [liebert]
   port = /dev/liebert-ups
   driver = liebert
 
 Make sure also about permissions:
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11  2 gen 10.34 /dev/liebert-ups - usb/hiddev0
 crw-rw 1 root nut 180, 96  2 gen 10.34 usb/hiddev0

Thanks  Francesco, I have now added the symlink to see if it makes a 
difference, however, as I was poking around I noticed that there is *no* 
hiddev* device at all ... is this an indication that something is amiss with 
my kernel?

# cat /usr/src/linux/.config | grep -i hid   
CONFIG_HID_SUPPORT=y
CONFIG_HID=y
CONFIG_HIDRAW=y
CONFIG_USB_HID=y
# CONFIG_HID_PID is not set
CONFIG_USB_HIDDEV=y
# Special HID drivers
# CONFIG_HID_3M_PCT is not set
CONFIG_HID_A4TECH=y
# CONFIG_HID_ACRUX_FF is not set
CONFIG_HID_APPLE=y
CONFIG_HID_BELKIN=y
# CONFIG_HID_CANDO is not set
CONFIG_HID_CHERRY=y
CONFIG_HID_CHICONY=y
# CONFIG_HID_PRODIKEYS is not set
CONFIG_HID_CYPRESS=y
# CONFIG_HID_DRAGONRISE is not set
# CONFIG_HID_EGALAX is not set
CONFIG_HID_EZKEY=y
CONFIG_HID_KYE=y
# CONFIG_HID_GYRATION is not set
# CONFIG_HID_TWINHAN is not set
CONFIG_HID_KENSINGTON=y
CONFIG_HID_LOGITECH=y
CONFIG_HID_MICROSOFT=y
# CONFIG_HID_MOSART is not set
CONFIG_HID_MONTEREY=y
# CONFIG_HID_NTRIG is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ORTEK is not set
# CONFIG_HID_PANTHERLORD is not set
# CONFIG_HID_PETALYNX is not set
# CONFIG_HID_PICOLCD is not set
# CONFIG_HID_QUANTA is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ROCCAT_KONE is not set
# CONFIG_HID_SAMSUNG is not set
# CONFIG_HID_SONY is not set
# CONFIG_HID_STANTUM is not set
# CONFIG_HID_SUNPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HID_GREENASIA is not set
# CONFIG_HID_SMARTJOYPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HID_TOPSEED is not set
# CONFIG_HID_THRUSTMASTER is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ZEROPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_HID_ZYDACRON is not set

Anyway, with the modified rule in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-nut-usbups.rules:

ATTR{idVendor}==075d, ATTR{idProduct}==0300, SYMLINK+=iDowell, 
MODE=664, GROUP=nut

I still get the same errors.

The symlink itself is not associated with hiddev*, but as follows:

ls -la /dev/iDowell 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan  3 15:12 /dev/iDowell - bus/usb/003/056

Of course, since the device seems to be disconnected and reconnected 
continuously, the link similarly changes the device file that it points to.  A 
few seconds later I get:

ls -la /dev/iDowell 
ls: cannot access /dev/iDowell: No such file or directory

and then soon after:

ls -la /dev/iDowell 
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 15 Jan  3 15:14 /dev/iDowell - bus/usb/003/063

Any ideas what I should be looking for, or what driver might work with this 
baby?
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
 resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???

http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/

Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)



[gentoo-user] Re: How 2 disable synaptic pad (driver)

2011-01-03 Thread James
Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes:


   Now I want to disable the synaptic pad on a laptop.

 Or if you want to use the xorg configuration files you can try creating:
 /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
 and adding the option:

  Option TouchpadOff 1

FANTASTIC!


Section InputClass
Identifier  touchpad catchall
MatchIsTouchpad on
MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
Option TouchpadOff 1
Driver  synaptics


Works like a charm!

thx Mick,
James







Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread felix
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:37:23AM +, Mick wrote:

 KMS won't work with framebuffer modules like vesa/uvesa/radeonfb/etc. unless 
 you also add nomodeset at the kernel line in GRUB.

I'm not using those modules.  Unless KMS actively breaks because those
modules exist but aren't loaded, I don't see how framebuffer modules
are the problem.

 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xm

I added VIDEO_CARDS and remerged xorg-server and xorg-drivers.  This
made no difference; the log file is exactly the same other than a
minor Mhz change.

 http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml

It tells how to set up a config file for 1.8, which I had working
without a config file, so this particular upgrade guide seems rather
useless.  My only problem is that 1.9.2 doesn't set the right screen
size.  That probably does point to KMS in some manner, but a 1.8
upgrade guide doesn't deal with it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How 2 disable synaptic pad (driver)

2011-01-03 Thread Mick
On Monday 03 January 2011 16:21:41 James wrote:
 Mick michaelkintzios at gmail.com writes:
Now I want to disable the synaptic pad on a laptop.
  
  Or if you want to use the xorg configuration files you can try creating:
  /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/10-evdev.conf
  
  and adding the option:
   Option TouchpadOff 1
 
 FANTASTIC!
 
 
 Section InputClass
 Identifier  touchpad catchall
 MatchIsTouchpad on
 MatchDevicePath /dev/input/event*
 Option TouchpadOff 1
 Driver  synaptics
 
 
 Works like a charm!
 
 thx Mick,
 James

You're welcome!  Glad it works for you, because over here I had to go back and 
forth to get things working (mind you I was trying to do achieve the opposite 
functionality to yours).
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Mick


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[gentoo-user] Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi,

starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device 
changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it 
seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a 
device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor 
has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now 
/dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later 
or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a 
different device number again.

Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how 
can this brought back to normal operation?

- Jörg




Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-03 17:27]:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
  resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???
 
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/
 
 Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)
 

Hi,

that sounds really promising! :)

I tried to compile the stuff...but...

When starting to emerge v86d (was it that name...cant remember
exactly) also linux-2.6.26 starts to download and klibc.*

I checked, for what klibc is good for and in this case it is
used for calling the userland tool via from initram, which I
do not plan...

Ok, I thought, than low level.

I compiled v86d by hand using ./configure --default for the
default configuration.

But this time it fails to compile with:

   make[1]: Leaving directory 
`/home/mccramer/data/downloads/v86d-0.1.9/libs/x86emu'
   cc -march=native -O2 -pipe -msse3 -I/lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include 
-Ilibs/x86emu -c -o v86_x86emu.o v86_x86emu.c
   In file included from /usr/include/asm/types.h:4,
from /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/types.h:4,
from 
/lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/connector.h:25,
from v86.h:7,
from v86_x86emu.c:4:
   /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/asm-generic/int-ll64.h:11:29: error: 
asm/bitsperlong.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from 
/lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/connector.h:25,
from v86.h:7,
from v86_x86emu.c:4:
   /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/types.h:13:2: warning: #warning 
Attempt to use kernel headers from user space, see 
http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHeaders;
   make: *** [v86_x86emu.o] Error 1


I dont know, what the problem is...I am using linux-2.6.36.2 vanilla
and compile this kernel with uvesafb support in beforehand.
Nonetheless there seems something to be missed in the kernel
sources...

My goal is to have a better resolution on the console as this
8bit homecomputer like crap. It doesnot matter that much, whether
switching to the higher resolution happens when the first boot scripts
are read from /etc ...

May I ask you for a little more informations how to proceed here?
How did you achieve a working uvesafb? Do you use the gentoo sources
or the vanilla kernel?

Best regards and thank you very much in advance for your help!
mcc




Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-03 17:27]:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
  resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???
 
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/
 
 Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)
 

Ok, forget the previous mail... ;)

I give up not to use initramfs and did it as described
in above webpage.

Unfortunately I get an even more blocky design (4bit pocket
calculator design, so to say... ;-/ )

Will try more...we will see.

If you have some more hints forI would be happier ;)))

Best regards
mcc





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread Dale

fe...@crowfix.com wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:37:23AM +, Mick wrote:

   

KMS won't work with framebuffer modules like vesa/uvesa/radeonfb/etc. unless
you also add nomodeset at the kernel line in GRUB.
 

I'm not using those modules.  Unless KMS actively breaks because those
modules exist but aren't loaded, I don't see how framebuffer modules
are the problem.

   

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xm
 

I added VIDEO_CARDS and remerged xorg-server and xorg-drivers.  This
made no difference; the log file is exactly the same other than a
minor Mhz change.

   

http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
 

It tells how to set up a config file for 1.8, which I had working
without a config file, so this particular upgrade guide seems rather
useless.  My only problem is that 1.9.2 doesn't set the right screen
size.  That probably does point to KMS in some manner, but a 1.8
upgrade guide doesn't deal with it.

   


I ran into a weird video issue a month or so ago and there was a lot of 
head scratching.  Just out of curiosity, do you have this built into the 
kernel under 'General Setup?


System V IPC

Again, I have that built in the kernel not as a module.  It fixed my 
problem and I hope it will help on yours to.


Dale

:-)  :-)



[gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 01/03/2011 07:43 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:

Hi,

starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it
seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a
device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor
has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now
/dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later
or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a
different device number again.

Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how
can this brought back to normal operation?


This has been solved long ago: Label your filesystems and mount them by 
label.  For example, don't put /dev/sda3 in your fstab, but label that 
filesystem with a name like root_fs and use 
/dev/disk/by-label/root_fs in fstab.


Ext2/3/4 filesystem can be labeled with the e2label tool.  For example:

  e2label /dev/sda3 root_fs

After that, modify your fstab accordingly.




Re: [gentoo-user] Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 9:43 AM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
 changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it
 seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a
 device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor
 has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now
 /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later
 or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a
 different device number again.

 Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how
 can this brought back to normal operation?

 - Jörg

Hello Jorg,
   I saw something similar recently going to the first version of
2.6.36. In my case I had a USB device externally connected through a
specific USB hub. When I got rid of the hub and plugged the drive in
directly it started booting correctly again.

   I don't see this with 2,6,36 with Flash drives plugged in but none
of mine are bootable.

   I never investigated the root cause of why it was happening but I
suspect it's some USB kernel setting.

   Strangeness.

- Mark



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread Mick
On Monday 03 January 2011 17:12:11 fe...@crowfix.com wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 09:37:23AM +, Mick wrote:
  KMS won't work with framebuffer modules like vesa/uvesa/radeonfb/etc.
  unless you also add nomodeset at the kernel line in GRUB.
 
 I'm not using those modules.  Unless KMS actively breaks because those
 modules exist but aren't loaded, I don't see how framebuffer modules
 are the problem.
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xm

I don't know because on my boxen I had the framebuffer modules built in the 
kernel.  Therefore I had to recompile the kernel with all the KMS settings as 
suggested in the article above and remove the framebuffer modules completely.


 I added VIDEO_CARDS and remerged xorg-server and xorg-drivers.  This
 made no difference; the log file is exactly the same other than a
 minor Mhz change.
 
  http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide
  .xml
 
 It tells how to set up a config file for 1.8, which I had working
 without a config file, so this particular upgrade guide seems rather
 useless.  My only problem is that 1.9.2 doesn't set the right screen
 size.  That probably does point to KMS in some manner, but a 1.8
 upgrade guide doesn't deal with it.

I think that the solution is probably to go for the full KMS approach and 
remove the framebuffer modules as already suggested.  Then come back if it 
doesn't work.

The xorg-server-1.8 migration is necessary if you need to configure particular 
devices.  HAL and its fdi files are no longer used.  In absence of any other 
configuration files under /etc/X11/*, xorg will use the files in 
/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/* which may or may not agree with your hardware.  
That's what the xorg-server-1.8 migration URL is for.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread felix
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 12:12:41PM -0600, Dale wrote:
 
 I ran into a weird video issue a month or so ago and there was a lot of 
 head scratching.  Just out of curiosity, do you have this built into the 
 kernel under 'General Setup?
 
 System V IPC
 
 Again, I have that built in the kernel not as a module.  It fixed my 
 problem and I hope it will help on yours to.

I just checked, yes, builtin, not a module.

One of the most annoying gentoo habits I have developed is learning to
live with things that break for no apparent reason and fix themselves
for no apparent reason some time later, whether days or weeks.  This
one has been a problem for months now, but since I reboot as seldom as
possible, and leave X running for weeks or months at a time, I don't
know how long it has been broken.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread felix
On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 06:53:05PM +, Mick wrote:

 I don't know because on my boxen I had the framebuffer modules built in the 
 kernel.  Therefore I had to recompile the kernel with all the KMS settings as 
 suggested in the article above and remove the framebuffer modules completely.
 ...
 I think that the solution is probably to go for the full KMS approach and 
 remove the framebuffer modules as already suggested.  Then come back if it 
 doesn't work.

I just tried this; no change to either the Xorg.log or the screen size.

 The xorg-server-1.8 migration is necessary if you need to configure 
 particular 
 devices.  HAL and its fdi files are no longer used.  In absence of any other 
 configuration files under /etc/X11/*, xorg will use the files in 
 /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/* which may or may not agree with your hardware.  
 That's what the xorg-server-1.8 migration URL is for.

The only files in there are for evdev and the mouse.  Input works
fine, both keyboard and mouse.

Well, it will probably resolve itself one of these days, like so many
other gentoo screwups.  I've had LVM issues, USB issues by the ton, I
have forgotten most of the problems; they seem to eventually fix
themselves.  It's as if projects get out of sync, leapfrogging each
other, and I happen to hit them at some particularly bad leapfrog and
it takes a while for them to get back together.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Jörg Schaible
Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

 On 01/03/2011 07:43 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
 Hi,

 starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
 changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel
 it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned
 a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my
 monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is
 now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this
 later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets
 a different device number again.

 Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how
 can this brought back to normal operation?
 
 This has been solved long ago: Label your filesystems and mount them by
 label.

I did this long ago, therefore I can switch between the old and new kernel 
easily.

 For example, don't put /dev/sda3 in your fstab, but label that
 filesystem with a name like root_fs and use
 /dev/disk/by-label/root_fs in fstab.
 
 Ext2/3/4 filesystem can be labeled with the e2label tool.  For example:
 
e2label /dev/sda3 root_fs
 
 After that, modify your fstab accordingly.

And how does this help the kernel to find the root device where /etc/fstab 
is located ?

- Jörg

BTW: Yes, I will boot next time with a LABEL entry in the kernels boot 
option, but I still don't want a kernel that assigns devices in random 
order.




Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:55 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-03 17:27]:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
  resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???

 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/

 Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)


 Hi,

 that sounds really promising! :)

 I tried to compile the stuff...but...

 When starting to emerge v86d (was it that name...cant remember
 exactly) also linux-2.6.26 starts to download and klibc.*

 I checked, for what klibc is good for and in this case it is
 used for calling the userland tool via from initram, which I
 do not plan...

 Ok, I thought, than low level.

 I compiled v86d by hand using ./configure --default for the
 default configuration.

 But this time it fails to compile with:

   make[1]: Leaving directory 
 `/home/mccramer/data/downloads/v86d-0.1.9/libs/x86emu'
   cc -march=native -O2 -pipe -msse3 -I/lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include 
 -Ilibs/x86emu -c -o v86_x86emu.o v86_x86emu.c
   In file included from /usr/include/asm/types.h:4,
                    from /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/types.h:4,
                    from 
 /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/connector.h:25,
                    from v86.h:7,
                    from v86_x86emu.c:4:
   /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/asm-generic/int-ll64.h:11:29: error: 
 asm/bitsperlong.h: No such file or directory
   In file included from 
 /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/connector.h:25,
                    from v86.h:7,
                    from v86_x86emu.c:4:
   /lib/modules/2.6.36.2/source/include/linux/types.h:13:2: warning: #warning 
 Attempt to use kernel headers from user space, see 
 http://kernelnewbies.org/KernelHeaders;
   make: *** [v86_x86emu.o] Error 1


 I dont know, what the problem is...I am using linux-2.6.36.2 vanilla
 and compile this kernel with uvesafb support in beforehand.
 Nonetheless there seems something to be missed in the kernel
 sources...

 My goal is to have a better resolution on the console as this
 8bit homecomputer like crap. It doesnot matter that much, whether
 switching to the higher resolution happens when the first boot scripts
 are read from /etc ...

 May I ask you for a little more informations how to proceed here?
 How did you achieve a working uvesafb? Do you use the gentoo sources
 or the vanilla kernel?

Hi,

I use vanilla-sources and do not use initrd. Don't be confused about
initramfs, it does not require you to use initrd. Basically just
follow the directions on that webpage and it should work. Here I'll
explain in different words in case it helps. :)

1. configure your kernel like it says on that page (CONFIG_CONNECTOR=y
and CONFIG_FB_UVESA=y)
2. make the kernel
3. emerge klibc (if it's already installed, emerge it again so it
builds against this newly-configured kernel)
4. emerge v86d
5. configure your kernel again, enable Initial RAM filesystem and RAM
disk (initramfs/initrd) support
6. In Initramfs source file(s) type /usr/share/v86d/initramfs
7. Make and install the new kernel :)
8. Reboot and type cat /sys/class/graphics/fb0/modes to see a list
of compatible modes on your card.
9. Edit your kernel commandline in grub configuration file to add the
uvesafb command. For example mine is
video=uvesafb:1280x720p-59,mtrr:2,ywrap (you can replace 1280x720p-59
with the mode that your card supports from the previous step)
9. Reboot again and hopefully enjoy new high-resolution framebuffer :)

Another way to make it look better is to use different console fonts.
I'm using ter-112n from package media-fonts/terminus-font. You can set
this in /etc/conf.d/consolefont (be sure consolefont is set as a boot
service from rc-update).

If you have a message in dmesg about mtrr type mismatch, you may need
to change from mtrr:2 to another number. Please read the uvesafb
documentation from linux kernel for more info:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/uvesafb.txt

Good luck :) If you have any problems let me know and I can send you
my kernel .config in case you want to compare settings.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Stroller

On 3/1/2011, at 6:17pm, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 On 01/03/2011 07:43 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
 ...
 starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
 changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it
 seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a
 device first. ...
 
 This has been solved long ago: Label your filesystems and mount them by 
 label.  For example, don't put /dev/sda3 in your fstab, but label that 
 filesystem with a name like root_fs and use /dev/disk/by-label/root_fs in 
 fstab.
 
 Ext2/3/4 filesystem can be labeled with the e2label tool.  For example:
 
  e2label /dev/sda3 root_fs
 
 After that, modify your fstab accordingly.

I believe this is the supported way to use labels:

$ grep -v -e ^# -e ^$ /etc/fstab
LABEL=boot  /boot   ext2noauto,noatime  1 2
LABEL=/ /   ext4noatime 0 1
LABEL=swap  noneswapsw  0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,users 0 0
LABEL=space /mnt/space  ext4noatime 0 3
shm /dev/shmtmpfs   nodev,nosuid,noexec 0 0
$ 

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] Re: SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 01/03/2011 08:09 PM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:

Paul Hartmanpaul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com  [11-01-03 17:27]:

On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,meino.cra...@gmx.de  wrote:

Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???


http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/

Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)



Ok, forget the previous mail... ;)

I give up not to use initramfs and did it as described
in above webpage.

Unfortunately I get an even more blocky design (4bit pocket
calculator design, so to say... ;-/ )

Will try more...we will see.

If you have some more hints forI would be happier ;)))


uvesafb will not give you extra resolutions.  It will however allow you 
to use non-default refresh-rates which is sometimes useful with CRT 
monitors.


But it has a drawback too: it needs a userspace tool and resolution is 
switched too late during the boot process, meaning until it loads you'll 
be seeing the kernel boot in 80x25 mode (which in turn means no boot 
graphics/logo right from the start.)





Re: [gentoo-user] Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@gmx.de wrote:
 Hi,

 starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
 changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new kernel it
 seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is assigned a
 device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay (and my monitor
 has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take care it is now
 /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor and do this later
 or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot time, the HD gets a
 different device number again.

 Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and how
 can this brought back to normal operation?

Is it possible that your BIOS is changing device order? Do you have
USB device set to boot before HDD device?



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Paul Hartman
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 uvesafb will not give you extra resolutions.  It will however allow you to
 use non-default refresh-rates which is sometimes useful with CRT monitors.

 But it has a drawback too: it needs a userspace tool and resolution is
 switched too late during the boot process, meaning until it loads you'll be
 seeing the kernel boot in 80x25 mode (which in turn means no boot
 graphics/logo right from the start.)

I use uvesafb and I can see Tux (eight of him) during my boot process
before uvesafb kicks in.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 21:36 on Monday 03 January 2011, Jörg Schaible 
did opine thusly:

 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
  On 01/03/2011 07:43 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote:
  Hi,
  
  starting with the 2.6.36-r5 kernel of the Gentoo sources my boot device
  changes. With 2.6.35 and below it is alway /dev/sda3, with the new
  kernel it seems that anything that is internally connected with USB is
  assigned a device first. Since my computer has an internal media bay
  (and my monitor has such a thing also) the first HD moves - it I take
  care it is now /dev/sde3. However, if I forget to switch on the monitor
  and do this later or if an USB stick is already plugged in at boot
  time, the HD gets a different device number again.
  
  Can somebody else confirm such a behaviour with the 2.6.36 kernel and
  how can this brought back to normal operation?
  
  This has been solved long ago: Label your filesystems and mount them by
  label.
 
 I did this long ago, therefore I can switch between the old and new kernel
 easily.
 
  For example, don't put /dev/sda3 in your fstab, but label that
  filesystem with a name like root_fs and use
  /dev/disk/by-label/root_fs in fstab.
  
  Ext2/3/4 filesystem can be labeled with the e2label tool.  For example:
 e2label /dev/sda3 root_fs
  
  After that, modify your fstab accordingly.
 
 And how does this help the kernel to find the root device where /etc/fstab
 is located ?

Does 

boot=LABEL=boot_device_label 

in grub config work for you?

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Changing boot device with 2.6.36

2011-01-03 Thread Stroller

On 3/1/2011, at 7:36pm, Jörg Schaible wrote:
 ...
 And how does this help the kernel to find the root device where /etc/fstab 
 is located ?

The kernel doesn't. You leave that to GRUB.

I'm not saying this helps solve your problem, I'm just sayin'.

 BTW: Yes, I will boot next time with a LABEL entry in the kernels boot 
 option, but I still don't want a kernel that assigns devices in random 
 order.

As long as you can boot, you should seriously stop caring.

If you're concerned about mounting USB sticks or memory cards then use udev 
rules to distinguish them.

Regarding the booting, and having to change what's in your grub.conf, I'd 
assume this is a one-off change - you'll change grub.conf to point to the new 
/dev/sdX and that will require no maintenance in the forseeable future.

GRUB can do labels, but it needs an initrd or initramfs, I think.

Stroller.




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Xorg 1.9.2 and wrong display size

2011-01-03 Thread Dale

fe...@crowfix.com wrote:

On Mon, Jan 03, 2011 at 12:12:41PM -0600, Dale wrote:
   

I ran into a weird video issue a month or so ago and there was a lot of
head scratching.  Just out of curiosity, do you have this built into the
kernel under 'General Setup?

System V IPC

Again, I have that built in the kernel not as a module.  It fixed my
problem and I hope it will help on yours to.
 

I just checked, yes, builtin, not a module.

One of the most annoying gentoo habits I have developed is learning to
live with things that break for no apparent reason and fix themselves
for no apparent reason some time later, whether days or weeks.  This
one has been a problem for months now, but since I reboot as seldom as
possible, and leave X running for weeks or months at a time, I don't
know how long it has been broken.

   


If no one else has any ideas, I would start a emerge -e world.  Maybe 
something updated and a dependency needs to be recompiled but no one 
else knows which one it is.  I have in the past done this and it work.  
I usually start a screen session so that I can check on it either in a 
console or in KDE.  You can also test it to see if it works from time to 
time too.  Just run etc-update or something to check for config updates 
before testing


Maybe someone else will come up with something that will help.  No clue 
here, at the moment anyway.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Calendar applications

2011-01-03 Thread Hamilton Silva
Take a look at osmo http://clayo.org/osmo/.

Regards

Hamilton


[gentoo-user] Re: SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 01/03/2011 10:23 PM, Paul Hartman wrote:

On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 2:07 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de  wrote:

uvesafb will not give you extra resolutions.  It will however allow you to
use non-default refresh-rates which is sometimes useful with CRT monitors.

But it has a drawback too: it needs a userspace tool and resolution is
switched too late during the boot process, meaning until it loads you'll be
seeing the kernel boot in 80x25 mode (which in turn means no boot
graphics/logo right from the start.)


I use uvesafb and I can see Tux (eight of him) during my boot process
before uvesafb kicks in.


I mean more something like this when I say boot logo:

http://mjanusz.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/shot.png

It's at least 10 years since I saw that default Tux boot thingy :-P  But 
anyway, if uvesafb hasn't kicked in yet, what on earth is drawing that Tux?





[gentoo-user] Latest unstable ntp not generating ntp.drift file.

2011-01-03 Thread Dale

Hi,

I been watching my clock here for a while.  On my old rig, ntp kept the 
clock set very, very well.  This rig seems to have issues.  I tried the 
stable version of ntp and it just seems to keep resetting the time but 
not adjusting the drift file at all.  I even adjusted manually once and 
my entry was better than the one it made.


I then decided to try the latest unstable ntp to see if maybe it would 
work better.  I emerged ntp, renamed the drift file and started the 
service.  That was several hours ago and it has yet to even create the 
drift file.  It also puts nothing in the log file except that it started 
and is using ports and the normal stuff.  No syncing or anything like 
the older version.


Also, I copied the ntp.conf file over from the old rig.  I would think 
they would work pretty much the same.  Same program, same config and 
hopefully same results.


First version tried:  net-misc/ntp-4.2.4_p7-r1
Current unstable version:  net-misc/ntp-4.2.6_p2-r1

When I looked at the ntp website, it said it should sync much faster 
than the old one.  Basically it is minutes instead of hours.  So far 
this is not the case.


Anybody else ran into this?  Am I missing something that is different on 
a 64 bit rig?


Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread meino . cramer
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-03 17:27]:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
  Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
  resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???
 
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/
 
 Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)
 

Hi all,

thank you very much for all the input !

And(TADA!).it works now! :)

Very last question:
Is there any way to test what font looks best without haveing
to boot each time ?


Best regards,
mcc






Re: [gentoo-user] SVGA mode the console

2011-01-03 Thread Hung Dang
Hi,

You can try to modify the default font in /etc/conf.d/consolefont and
restart /etc/init.d/consolefont to see if the new font look OK for you
or not. The terminus-font looks OK for me.

Hope  this help
Hung

On 01/03/11 20:04, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com [11-01-03 17:27]:
 On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 5:28 AM,  meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 Final question after all there words: How can I get such a high
 resolution with this hardware and the nvidia-drivers???
 http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/uvesafb/

 Works for me on ~amd64 gentoo with nvidia-drivers :)

 Hi all,

 thank you very much for all the input !

 And(TADA!).it works now! :)

 Very last question:
 Is there any way to test what font looks best without haveing
 to boot each time ?


 Best regards,
 mcc