[gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?
Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Am 24.02.2011 01:48, schrieb Alex Schuster: Looks like normal behaviour to me. @system should be a small set, but when some packages in @system have kde USE flags, they will pull in KDE stuff. One can make an easy test to see how that works: USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp Total: 181 packages emerge -e @system -v Total: 436 packages, The kde-useflag pulls in a waste of packages In my system-set are 50 packages: emerge @system -vp Total: 50 packages Greetings Sebastian Beßler
Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, $ gcc-config -h -- Regards, Gregory.
Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, Forgive previous post. Didn't read it properly. I'm not aware of any user switching program but perhaps you can manually select your gcc profile by using /usr/bin/gcc-x.x.x rather than gcc. -- Regards, Gregory.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Sebastian Beßler wrote: One can make an easy test to see how that works: USE=-kde emerge -e @system -vp Total: 181 packages emerge -e @system -v Total: 436 packages, The kde-useflag pulls in a waste of packages In my system-set are 50 packages: emerge @system -vp Total: 50 packages Greetings Sebastian Beßler This is what I got with that: Total: 294 packages (294 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB With the kde USE flag: Total: 401 packages (401 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB That's a big difference. This is my system and world info: Packages installed: 929 Packages in world:94 Packages in system: 50 Required packages:929 Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Walter Dnes wrote: On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 09:57:00AM -0600, Dale wrote I tried a pretend emerge of khelpcenter. I had to unmask dbus and allow a bunch of use flags before it would run. Here's what I ended up with... USE=accessibility kde dbus qt3support ssl handbook exceptions emerge -pv khelpcenter ...which would've downloaded 33 packages totalling 220 megabytes. That looks like it could be the culprit. I suggest cp /var/lib/portage/world to your user directory, and go over it with a fine-tooth comb, and ask yourself why you want each of those packages. If you want to see what each package's dependancies are, execute... emerge -pv --depclean x.txt ...and then open up x.txt with an editor/viewer. Packages listed as pulled in by @selected are in world. I have a script which will generate a list of packages that can be unmerged relatively safely. You have one heckuva lot of USE flags. I start my USE with -* and add stuff as required. Often, I only add it to package.use. This is funny, I add USE flags as I need them as well. You have to keep in mind tho, that USE line is many years old. That USE line came from my old rig and as I emerge things, I add USE flags that I need. I rarely use package.use tho. I'm not that big of a control freak that I want to control a package one by one. My package.use file has 4 lines in it. They been there a while too. I might could remove them since those were due to bugs of some sort. I suspect that a lot of USE flags are no longer in use. I tried eix-test-obsolete but it doesn't seem to check the USE flags. Going through those one by one would take a good long while. I don't know of a tool that checks for flags that are no longer in use tho. My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from USE-flags like kde (what we have shown in the other post) and probably one or more other USE-flags. To lower the number in emerge -e @system you have to look at your flags, one by one if nothing else helps. Or you could just ignore it, because all that is pulled in are dependencies of some sort and not in your @system. Greetings Sebastian Beßler
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from USE-flags like kde (what we have shown in the other post) and probably one or more other USE-flags. To lower the number in emerge -e @system you have to look at your flags, one by one if nothing else helps. Or you could just ignore it, because all that is pulled in are dependencies of some sort and not in your @system. Greetings Sebastian Beßler And since I use KDE, it's not like I can disable the USE flag either. I may be able to disable or remove some others that are not needed or outdated but still, kde would be there. I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19, dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick There was a change in the default ssh encryption algorithm. You may want to check if that is causing the problem. How would I do that? By examining your config files? Previously your keys would be in ~/.ssh/id_dsa[rsa].pub, but now with ECDSA being the default they would be in ~/.ssh/id_ecdsa.pub I recall something being mentioned in the elog asking to regenerate the key-pair. HTH. If this is the case, you could try speciying your key on the command-line using the -i flag: # ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host Replace the file with the one on your machine. HTH, Joost I still haven't gotten this to work. Am I the only one using this? The ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host didn't work. I get a message Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer with or without the -i option. When I re-emerged openssh the following output is displayed. # emerge openssh Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Installing (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Jobs: 1 of 1 complete Load avg: 2.80, 1.95, 1.43 * Messages for package net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1: * Starting with openssh-5.8p1, the server will default to a newer key * algorithm (ECDSA). You are encouraged to manually update your stored * keys list as servers update theirs. See ssh-keyscan(1) for more info. * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and then * reload sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd reload'. * Please be aware users need a valid shell in /etc/passwd * in order to be allowed to login. Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. The ssh-keyscan man page hasn't helped. As of now I can only log in from older systems. dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale: If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages in @system, because the dependencies are all there at this time. USE=-* emerge -pv @system Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) emerge -pv @system Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) USE=-* emerge -pve @system Total: 88 packages (88 reinstalls) But yes, the difference 88 to more then 400 is really big.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
In linux.gentoo.user, you wrote: Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 13:32, schrieb Dale: My world file is fine. I went through it a while back and it is fairly small. It's the system set that is larger than normal. Your system set has 50 entries, that seems to be absolutly normal. The high count of entries in emerge -e @system comes from USE-flags like kde (what we have shown in the other post) and probably one or more other USE-flags. To lower the number in emerge -e @system you have to look at your flags, one by one if nothing else helps. Or you could just ignore it, because all that is pulled in are dependencies of some sort and not in your @system. Greetings Sebastian Beßler And since I use KDE, it's not like I can disable the USE flag either. I may be able to disable or remove some others that are not needed or outdated but still, kde would be there. I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? Dale :-) :-) I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system monitoring, midnight commander or worker for file management, and you have a pretty complete desktop without need of all the bloaty k or g stuff. It's a *lot* faster that way, too. -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 24 February 2011 13:17, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19, dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick There was a change in the default ssh encryption algorithm. You may want to check if that is causing the problem. How would I do that? By examining your config files? Previously your keys would be in ~/.ssh/id_dsa[rsa].pub, but now with ECDSA being the default they would be in ~/.ssh/id_ecdsa.pub I recall something being mentioned in the elog asking to regenerate the key-pair. HTH. If this is the case, you could try speciying your key on the command-line using the -i flag: # ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host Replace the file with the one on your machine. HTH, Joost I still haven't gotten this to work. Am I the only one using this? The ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host didn't work. I get a message Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer with or without the -i option. When I re-emerged openssh the following output is displayed. # emerge openssh Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Installing (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Jobs: 1 of 1 complete Load avg: 2.80, 1.95, 1.43 * Messages for package net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1: * Starting with openssh-5.8p1, the server will default to a newer key * algorithm (ECDSA). You are encouraged to manually update your stored * keys list as servers update theirs. See ssh-keyscan(1) for more info. * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and then * reload sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd reload'. * Please be aware users need a valid shell in /etc/passwd * in order to be allowed to login. Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. The ssh-keyscan man page hasn't helped. As of now I can only log in from older systems. This would imply that your older (rsa/dsa) server keys still work. What have you changed on your Gentoo client? Have you tried using ssh user@host to login with? -- Regards, Mick
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Sebastian Beßler wrote: Am 24.02.2011 14:03, schrieb Dale: If I do this: USE=-* emerge -pv system I get this: Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) What a difference USE flags makes huh? You forgot to add the e, without it you reinstall only the 50 packages in @system, because the dependencies are all there at this time. USE=-* emerge -pv @system Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) emerge -pv @system Total: 50 packages (50 reinstalls) USE=-* emerge -pve @system Total: 88 packages (88 reinstalls) But yes, the difference 88 to more then 400 is really big. Good catch. I did miss the -e. I don't use it very much so my fingers are not used to typing it in. This is the new results which is close to yours. Total: 87 packages (87 reinstalls) That is more reasonable. I just wonder where it will be in another year or so. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Elaine C. Sharpe wrote: I use fluxbox and sometimes wmaker. Probably a lot of people are put off by the default configs, but both offer extremely powerful and versatile customization tools. Add your fave terminal emulator (I recommend terminator for it's killer feature set) and conky for system monitoring, midnight commander or worker for file management, and you have a pretty complete desktop without need of all the bloaty k or g stuff. It's a *lot* faster that way, too. I have Fluxbox installed here as well. I use it for a backup GUI. I can open Seamonkey and some other programs in it. I mostly wanted something that if KDE died, I could get to the mailing lists or the forums and get help in a easy way. KDE is big tho. I also like KDE. I tried Gnome but it just wasn't my thing. Fluxbox as a backup is nice tho. It is surely fast on this 4 core 3.2Ghz with 8Gbs of ram rig. To say it flies is putting it mild. lol For those keeping up, DHL got the new memory to Memphis. It has been sitting at the post office since Monday. I'm hoping it will show up today but it says next week on the website. Time to drag out my bicycle again. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they will also be dependencies of @world, because you have emerged kde-meta, so either way they would be on your system. There is nothing wrong with your system, it is doing exactly what you told it to with your USE flags, and the kde flag is not the culprit anyway as emerge -ep @system doesn't bring in any KDE stuff here. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 012: Window closed - Do not look inside signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they will also be dependencies of @world, because you have emerged kde-meta, so either way they would be on your system. There is nothing wrong with your system, it is doing exactly what you told it to with your USE flags, and the kde flag is not the culprit anyway as emerge -ep @system doesn't bring in any KDE stuff here. I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. It is doing what it is told but it is also doing things that it didn't use to do even when told the same as it is being told now. It wasn't to long ago that system was about 150 packages and didn't take that long to recompile. Now it is over 400. If this continues, the difference between system and world is going to be small. It may not be broke but it seems the system set is growing pretty quick. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS
On 02/23/2011 02:51 PM, Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 22:45:18 Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 18:54:12 walt wrote: On 02/23/2011 08:28 AM, Mick wrote: Hi All, I noticed that since I installed xorg-server-1.9.4 my screen will not go into standby anymore ... According to the man pages DPMS is enabled by default and I have not disabled it. Have you noticed the same? No, it still works as usual. What does xset q tell you? Maybe it's a bug in the video driver? Hmm ... this is what I see: Screen Saver: prefer blanking: yesallow exposures: yes timeout: 0cycle: 5 ... DPMS (Energy Star): Standby: 600Suspend: 600Off: 600 DPMS is Disabled Are you saying that the radeon driver disable DPMS? This is what the log shows: # less /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -i DPMS [36.365] (II) Loading extension DPMS [36.595] (II) RADEON(0): No DPMS capabilities specified [36.653] (==) RADEON(0): DPMS enabled The driver is lying to you :) That sounds to me like a bug.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. Actually, it is, because you told it to be. To me, KDE is not a system package, because I run different USE flags to you. Gentoo gave you the gun but you pointed it at your foot :) -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number 11: Terribly pleased signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS
Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote: When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my monitor off. I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK. This is strange - I added Option DPMS on under the Monitor section in the xorg.conf, but it won't take. xset +dpms works fine ... Why would that be? I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing. When I first upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off myself. I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the monitor. I have another script that sets it back when I log out. I put it in ~.kde4/Autostart. It's the same commands I tested manually and it works fine. If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the monitor with DPMS yet. That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still having problems. This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as well. They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to write the code once. I would do that if it was me. ;-) This is my settings when I am logged in: xset dpms 3600 3600 3600 I think that is one hour. I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not minutes. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system
Hello,
Well running a routine --depclean somehow
I lost the only copy of gcc on the system
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -msse3 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
I have a a similar system set like this:
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha)
I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of
orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system.
GUIDANCE on that is most welcome.
Additionally, this could be prevented by keeping
the latest current stable gcc as well as the
previous current stable gcc on the system,
perhaps via the world file? Or Another method
to ensure at least 2 versions of gcc are
always on a given system?
It's a first time deleting the compiler,
still do not know how it happened, as I
did look over the -p --depclean first
-- The C compiler identification is unknown
-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -- broken
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake/Modules/CMakeTestCCompiler.cmake:52 (MESSAGE):
The C compiler /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc is not able to compile a
simple test program.
James
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] etho app rating 10/100 etc in megabytes
James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com writes: Harry Putnam reader at newsguy.com writes: But still, when I'm trying to measure how much data is moving emerge bwmon, It measures across the ethernet ports, so adjust your test, according to what you want to measure, crossing the ethernet port on the target system. First off.. thanks for the tips and help. All I get from bwmon is a large mess of incomprehensible data ending in , | b7841000-b7881000 r-xp 03:05 6663 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7 | [...] | b789e000-b78ba000 r-xp 03:05 7228 /lib/ld-2.12.2.so | b78ba000-b78bb000 r-xp 00:00 0 [vdso] | b78bb000-b78bc000 r--p 0001c000 03:05 7228 /lib/ld-2.12.2.so | b78bc000-b78bd000 rw-p 0001d000 03:05 7228 /lib/ld-2.12.2.so | bffae000-bffc4000 rw-p 00:00 0 [stack] | Aborted ` And it has no man page whatsoever. (it has a little help at bwmon -h) But I recall using bwmon years ago so not sure whats happening that it crashes for me. and it seems quite slow for what is supposed to be a gigabyte network. Gigabit ethernet rarely runs full out constantly, something, (ram, cpu, interface, swith-latency) mucks things up. Do not let your copper get to long either! But that figures out to about 3-4 MB per second (assuming I did the math right) I said it was averaging about 230-237 MBytes per MINUTE , so giving it a nice round 240 MB per MINUTE: 240 / 60 = 4MB per second... and that figures out to: ( using this forumula: 1MBytes ps = 800 bits ps or 8 Mbits ps) 4 * 800 = 32 Mbits ps That is not counting packets going the other way of course, but isn't an incoming speed of 32Mega bits per second what one might expect from adapters capable of 100 mbps... (not gigabit (1000)) What you've shown below appears to show gigabit network between h4 and h5. Is that really to be expected? gigabyte switch || || (192.168.0.9) h4 h5 (192.168.0.17) If you show the top half of the diagram you snipped, you see that h4 h5 are aimed at a switch/router/firewall above, that is only 100mbps. The gigaswitch has no address, so I'm wondering if traffic between h4 and h5 has to go up thru the 100Mbps router to communicate with each other. I realized when I made the diagram that I was probably looking for gigabit speeds where really only 100mbps was possible. Take another look at the diagram (Knowing that h4 and h5 have there default routes set to the netgear (100mbps) router. Would it still be possible that h4 and h5 would communicate direct thru the gigabit switch or would that traffic have to go up thru the 100 Mbps router above? (Note that in the previous diagram I had mislabled (just a typo) the gigabit switch as gigabyte switch) internet | | | (netgear router is lan `default route' = 10/100* NETGEAR ROUTER (inside address 192.168.0.20) | | | | | | (192.168.0.5) h1 | h3 (192.168.0.7) | | gigabit switch || || (192.168.0.9) h4 h5 (192.168.0.17) But also if I should be expecting h4 h5 to be able to use GigaByte transfer speeds. Some fraction say 50% is good, if it is copper, unless the systems are smoking gaming systems or of very high quality resources. I keep having a sneaking feeling I'm making some horrible mistake in the math, but wouldn't the speeds I posted (240 MegaBytes per min) figure out to something like 3.2+ % of the rated 1000 Mbits. (I really hope I haven't demonstrated idiocy levels of math)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Am 24.02.2011 16:21, schrieb Dale: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. Then remove the kde-Flag from every package in @system and its dependecies. After that remove all the unneeded flags from all the other packages. The tools are there, you just have to use them right.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 09:21:54 -0600, Dale wrote: I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. Actually, it is, because you told it to be. To me, KDE is not a system package, because I run different USE flags to you. Gentoo gave you the gun but you pointed it at your foot :) I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. If I disable kde, qt and all the others then my GUI is going to be junk if it would even work at all. I guess the kernel will have the kde USE flag next. lol At least that should be in @system tho. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 7:21 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 07:03:06 -0600, Dale wrote: I just wonder if the devs have noticed how much this has grown when packages with X flags are included in the system set?. Would Gnome do the same? What about other GUI's? What does it matter? They are only dependencies of @system, but they will also be dependencies of @world, because you have emerged kde-meta, so either way they would be on your system. There is nothing wrong with your system, it is doing exactly what you told it to with your USE flags, and the kde flag is not the culprit anyway as emerge -ep @system doesn't bring in any KDE stuff here. I was always under the impression that @system was supposed to be a limited set of packages to build, including dependencies. For me, if I have a issue, I usually start with emerge -e system to see if it helps. Since there is some KDE stuff in there, that makes it build packages that I most likely don't need to be rebuilt. To me, KDE is not a system package. It is doing what it is told but it is also doing things that it didn't use to do even when told the same as it is being told now. It wasn't to long ago that system was about 150 packages and didn't take that long to recompile. Now it is over 400. If this continues, the difference between system and world is going to be small. It may not be broke but it seems the system set is growing pretty quick. Dale Dale, As Neil states, it has a lot to do with what you told the machine to do. I have a new, very clean, stable (not ~amd64) laptop using the kde profile. emerge -ep @system says 191 packages and I'm writing this response from that machine inside KDE so it has to be something else in your case. I posted something a couple of years ago about using -java in make.conf because I found with +java I got almost twice as many packages in @system. (Except it wasn't @system at the time) I started putting java flags in package.use and got things to work the way I wanted - easy to rebuild @system, java on the packages I really wanted java support. I suspect what you are seeing is far more in that vein than anything else. Good luck, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system
James wrote:
Hello,
Well running a routine --depclean somehow
I lost the only copy of gcc on the system
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -msse3 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
I have a a similar system set like this:
CFLAGS=-march=k8 -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CXXFLAGS=${CFLAGS}
Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha)
I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of
orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system.
GUIDANCE on that is most welcome.
Additionally, this could be prevented by keeping
the latest current stable gcc as well as the
previous current stable gcc on the system,
perhaps via the world file? Or Another method
to ensure at least 2 versions of gcc are
always on a given system?
It's a first time deleting the compiler,
still do not know how it happened, as I
did look over the -p --depclean first
-- The C compiler identification is unknown
-- The CXX compiler identification is unknown
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
-- Check for working C compiler: /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -- broken
CMake Error at /usr/share/cmake/Modules/CMakeTestCCompiler.cmake:52 (MESSAGE):
The C compiler /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc is not able to compile a
simple test program.
James
I would be glad to email you the binary from mine if it would help.
Here is some info:
CBUILD=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-march=native -O2 -pipe
CHOST=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
sys-devel/gcc: 4.4.4-r2
Since it is set to native, I have a AMD X4 955 Deneb 3.2GHz CPU. If you
think it will work, let me know and I'll send you my copy. I promise
not to spit on it first too. lol
Let me know if you need more info.
Dale
:-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I posted something a couple of years ago about using -java in make.conf because I found with +java I got almost twice as many packages in @system. (Except it wasn't @system at the time) I started putting java flags in package.use and got things to work the way I wanted - easy to rebuild @system, java on the packages I really wanted java support. I suspect what you are seeing is far more in that vein than anything else. In fact, on this laptop, if all I do is change the profile I've selected then -ep @system results: 10.0 - 167 packages 10.0/desktop - 191 packages 10.0/gnome - 268 packages 10.0/kde - 191 packages 10.0/developer - 245 packages 10.0/no-multilib - 167 packages 10.0/server - 145 packages So, as you can see, even the profile you choose has a big effect on a system with very few use flags in make.cong or package.use. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 02/24/2011 08:53 AM, Mick wrote: On 24 February 2011 13:17, dhk dhk...@optonline.net wrote: On 02/23/2011 03:42 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tuesday 22 February 2011 14:51:31 Mick wrote: On 22 February 2011 14:19, dhk...@optonline.net wrote: - Original Message - From: Mick There was a change in the default ssh encryption algorithm. You may want to check if that is causing the problem. How would I do that? By examining your config files? Previously your keys would be in ~/.ssh/id_dsa[rsa].pub, but now with ECDSA being the default they would be in ~/.ssh/id_ecdsa.pub I recall something being mentioned in the elog asking to regenerate the key-pair. HTH. If this is the case, you could try speciying your key on the command-line using the -i flag: # ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host Replace the file with the one on your machine. HTH, Joost I still haven't gotten this to work. Am I the only one using this? The ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host didn't work. I get a message Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer with or without the -i option. When I re-emerged openssh the following output is displayed. # emerge openssh Calculating dependencies... done! Verifying ebuild manifests Emerging (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Installing (1 of 1) net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1 Jobs: 1 of 1 complete Load avg: 2.80, 1.95, 1.43 * Messages for package net-misc/openssh-5.8_p1-r1: * Starting with openssh-5.8p1, the server will default to a newer key * algorithm (ECDSA). You are encouraged to manually update your stored * keys list as servers update theirs. See ssh-keyscan(1) for more info. * Remember to merge your config files in /etc/ssh/ and then * reload sshd: '/etc/init.d/sshd reload'. * Please be aware users need a valid shell in /etc/passwd * in order to be allowed to login. Auto-cleaning packages... No outdated packages were found on your system. * GNU info directory index is up-to-date. The ssh-keyscan man page hasn't helped. As of now I can only log in from older systems. This would imply that your older (rsa/dsa) server keys still work. What have you changed on your Gentoo client? Have you tried using ssh user@host to login with? At first all I did was an update: emerge -uDN world . They when it didn't work I removed all public and private keys and restarted sshd. That didn't work then I tried the ssh-keygen and ssh-keyscan. That didn't work so I removed all keys again and restarted sshd. Are there ssh_config or sshd_config options that should be set? Thanks, dhk
Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system
Am 24.02.2011 17:54, schrieb James:
Hello,
Well running a routine --depclean somehow
I lost the only copy of gcc on the system
[...]
Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha)
I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of
orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system.
GUIDANCE on that is most welcome.
[...]
It's a first time deleting the compiler,
still do not know how it happened, as I
did look over the -p --depclean first
This should get you going:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/168951?do=post_view_threaded#168951
Was your profile setting messed up? Maybe on an unmounted device?
AFAIK, the system set is defined by your profile. GCC is right in the
base file for every profile:
${PORTDIR}/profiles/base/packages
Hope this helps,
Florian Philipp
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[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: I lost the only copy of gcc on the system I would be glad to email you the binary from mine if it would help. Dale, I have several system to copy from (thanks anyway). Is that all I have to do, just copy over the binary? then rebuild gcc via the local ebuild package? (using the copied over binary) that's all? locate gcc (just a snippet) /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.4.4 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/c++ /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/cpp /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/g++ /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gcc /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gccbug /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gcov /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gfortran So copy over /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin to the same location only? Copy over all of them?
[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes:
This should get you going:
http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/168951?do=post_view_threaded#168951
ok, after reading I tried this:
emerge --usepkg gcc
which did not work.
Can you be more specific on the syntax?
It looks like this thread will prevent accidential
deletion of gcc, in the future, but, I have not
gleaned from the thread, nor from the emerge pages
the correct (syntactically) version of how to
use quickpkg to fix the problem. Do I first
copy over the binary(ies) for gcc from another system?
Was your profile setting messed up? Maybe on an unmounted device?
AFAIK, the system set is defined by your profile. GCC is right in the
base file for every profile:
${PORTDIR}/profiles/base/packages
[2] default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop *
No unmounted device, just the internal ide drive
in the laptop It was installed back in 2004
so there may be cruft in the laptop, since
it's been dual boot Gentoo XP for a long time.
it's not the first time I've run depclean on
it though.
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 11:34:09 -0600, Dale wrote: Actually, it is, because you told it to be. To me, KDE is not a system package, because I run different USE flags to you. Gentoo gave you the gun but you pointed it at your foot :) I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. Which is probably why the kde flag does NOT pull in all that stuff. You can't on the one hand tell portage to build the packages with support for some other packages, then on the other hand complain that they are dependencies. Note the KDE is not and never will be part of @system, by your own post that still contains 50 packages, it is your choices that have created the huge dependency list for @system. Save the output of emerge -epvt @system to a file, or print it out, then work through to see which choices you have made that created this list of dependencies. Or accept that they were going to be installed anyway, as part of @world if not @system, and do something useful with your life :) If I disable kde, qt and all the others then my GUI is going to be junk if it would even work at all. Incorrect. You can install KDE without the kde USE flag, none of the packages in kde-meta respect the kde USE flag. -- Neil Bothwick Every time I jump on the bandwagon all its wheels fall off. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
Florian Philipp lists at binarywings.net writes: Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha) I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system. GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. [...] OK, if this the first step, then I'm confused. /usr/bin has this: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14512 Jan 14 2010 gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root62 Nov 6 14:08 gcc-4.4.4 - /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.4.4/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 21709 Sep 22 2009 gcc-config -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14512 Jan 14 2010 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root62 Nov 6 14:08 x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc-4.4.4 - /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.4.4/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc So can I just rebuild the links, as it is fine in /usr/bin: file gcc gcc: ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, stripped Or do I use quickpkg to fix it, since the binary is in place? (confused here so detail is appreciated!) I already downloaded gcc-4.4.4 but it will not build, so the symbolic link being used is broken? gcc-config -l * gcc-config: Active gcc profile is invalid! [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.4.4 I understand that quickpkg can be used to protect gcc in the future, but, I think I need to use the /usr/bin binary to rebuild the links and then the entire (gcc) package from sources? confused, James
Re: [gentoo-user] howto recover gcc from another system
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 16:54:36 + (UTC), James wrote: Since there is no gcc-bin to emerge (ha ha) I guess I'll have to copy over the binary of orsys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 from another system. GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. -- Neil Bothwick STATUS QUO is Latin for the mess we're in. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
james wrote: Dalerdalek1967at gmail.com writes: I lost the only copy of gcc on the system I would be glad to email you the binary from mine if it would help. Dale, I have several system to copy from (thanks anyway). Is that all I have to do, just copy over the binary? then rebuild gcc via the local ebuild package? (using the copied over binary) that's all? locate gcc (just a snippet) /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.4 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.4.4 /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/c++ /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/cpp /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/g++ /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gcc /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gccbug /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gcov /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2/gfortran So copy over /usr/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin to the same location only? Copy over all of them? If I recall correctly, you put the binary in /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel/ and then emerge -Ka =sys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 and it should just unpack and install gcc. I have done this before but I was using my own binary that portage made sure was put in the right place. This also assumes you are using the portage defaults as to the location of the portage directory and such. Mine looks like this: root@fireball / # emerge -Ka =sys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [binary R] sys-devel/gcc-4.4.4-r2 Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] Note it says binary? If it says something else, then there may be a problem. It's been a while but I think all that is right. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
Neil Bothwick neil at digimed.co.uk writes: GUIDANCE on that is most welcome. quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, OK I ran 'quickpkg gcc' got this: ls /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel gcc-4.1.2.tbz2 gcc-4.1.2.tbz2.28680 gcc-4.3.4.tbz2 gcc-4.4.4-r2.tbz2 now run scp ./*tbz2 remotehost://usr/portage/packages/sys-devel or somewhere in /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc (where to copy which *tbz2 file(s) to? Ignore copying the 'gcc-4.1.2.tbz2.28680' file? copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. Got this part
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 02/24/2011 03:01 PM, Matthew Marlowe wrote: On Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:09:22 am dhk wrote: I still haven't gotten this to work. Am I the only one using this? The ssh -i .ssh/id_dsa.pub host didn't work. I get a message Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer with or without the -i option. I encountered a similar, if not the same, problem this morning. Upgraded SSH, rebooted server, and no longer able to login. Logs showed errors I had not seen before. I managed to solve the problem when I noticed that ssh'ing to the fqdn of the server failed, but ssh'ing to the server hostname worked. This implied there might be an issue with the known_hosts file, so I blew away that on both the client and server and all was well. I'm guessing the upgrade modified the default ssh host keys, the new code somehow doesn't give the normal error about discrepencies in known_hosts, and consequently although ones user keys are still fine, it fails. The issue here is really the new error isn't nearly as understandable as the old. Anyhow, try it and I hope it works. Matt Thanks, but I've tried that. ssh'ing to the hostname and loopback address work. However, when I go out to the WAN it doesn't. So I can't ssh user@123.123.123.123 even though I have port 22 open on the switch for my ip.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS
On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Wednesday 23 February 2011 19:21:34 Dale wrote: When I upgraded to KDE4, I had to start using xset to handle turning my monitor off. I put it in the startup section and it seems to work OK. This is strange - I added Option DPMS on under the Monitor section in the xorg.conf, but it won't take. xset +dpms works fine ... Why would that be? I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing. When I first upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off myself. I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the monitor. I have another script that sets it back when I log out. I put it in ~.kde4/Autostart. It's the same commands I tested manually and it works fine. If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the monitor with DPMS yet. That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still having problems. This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as well. They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to write the code once. I would do that if it was me. ;-) This is my settings when I am logged in: xset dpms 3600 3600 3600 I think that is one hour. I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not minutes. I would have thought that DPMS is a an xorg function/issue, rather than KDE's. Things went sideways here when I upgrade xorg-server from 1.9.2 to 1.9.4. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: x11-base/xorg-server-1.9.4 and DPMS
Mick wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2011 16:23:31 Dale wrote: I think there is a thread where I asked the same thing. When I first upgraded to KDE4, my monitor would not turn off unless I turned it off myself. I set up a script that runs when I login to cut off the monitor. I have another script that sets it back when I log out. I put it in ~.kde4/Autostart. It's the same commands I tested manually and it works fine. If I recall correctly, KDE was not quite up to speed on controlling the monitor with DPMS yet. That was back in the 4.1 days so that may have changed but given you are having issues with it, maybe it is still having problems. This could be due to the hal/udev/polkit switch as well. They may be letting all that settle so that they only have to write the code once. I would do that if it was me. ;-) This is my settings when I am logged in: xset dpms 3600 3600 3600 I think that is one hour. I'm pretty sure it is measured in seconds not minutes. I would have thought that DPMS is a an xorg function/issue, rather than KDE's. Things went sideways here when I upgrade xorg-server from 1.9.2 to 1.9.4. I thought the same thing. Thing is, there are settings in KDE to tell it when to blank, cut off and all that. I just know I couldn't get it to work until I did the things I posted. It didn't make much sense but it works now. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] non-root user switch gcc version ?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 6:15 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, many distributions have something like a 'switch' command such that an ordinary user can switch the version of his/her default gcc compiler. Is there something similar in GenToo? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut. You could do something like the following: # Set environment eval $(gcc-conifg -E profile) # Set library path export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$(gcc-config -L profile)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
On Thu, 24 Feb 2011 21:29:50 + (UTC), James wrote: quickpkg gcc on the other system, copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, OK I ran 'quickpkg gcc' got this: ls /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel gcc-4.1.2.tbz2 gcc-4.1.2.tbz2.28680 gcc-4.3.4.tbz2 gcc-4.4.4-r2.tbz2 now run scp ./*tbz2 remotehost://usr/portage/packages/sys-devel You only need to copy the file for the version you want to install. or somewhere in /usr/portage/sys-devel/gcc (where to copy which *tbz2 file(s) to? Copy to /usr/portage/packages/sys-devel, the same location as they are in on the good system. Unless you have redefined PKGDIR. Ignore copying the 'gcc-4.1.2.tbz2.28680' file? Yes, it looks like a failed attempt to package an old version. -- Neil Bothwick Walking on water and writing software to specification is easy if they're frozen. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On Thursday 24 February 2011 18:09:22 dhk wrote: On 02/24/2011 08:53 AM, Mick wrote: Have you tried using ssh user@host to login with? At first all I did was an update: emerge -uDN world . They when it didn't work I removed all public and private keys and restarted sshd. That didn't work then I tried the ssh-keygen and ssh-keyscan. That didn't work so I removed all keys again and restarted sshd. Are there ssh_config or sshd_config options that should be set? I recommend you have another look at: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/articles/openssh-key-management-p1.xml and from there Part 2 and Part 3 just in case you are missing something basic. The only difference being that the latest openssh version is now using ECDSA as the default. Therefore you should specify it as the prefered option in your server's and client's config files (which from the elog I am led to believe that it is the new default setting). Also, note the elog comment about users needing a valid shell in /etc/passwd. Does your user have /bin/bash (or other shell of choice) at the end of the line in /etc/passwd? PS. I am able to login into a gentoo box which is running 5.8_p1-r1 using my ssh_host_rsa_key from a client also running 5.8_p1-r1. So it seems that old keys should work fine - unless you have removed them from your server. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On Thursday 24 February 2011 21:51:56 dhk wrote: Thanks, but I've tried that. ssh'ing to the hostname and loopback address work. However, when I go out to the WAN it doesn't. So I can't ssh user@123.123.123.123 even though I have port 22 open on the switch for my ip. Just to state the obvious, have your tried something like: $ nc -v -z 123.123.123.123 22 123.123.123.123 (ssh) open from a WAN client to make sure that the port is open? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. emergeing gcc now (thanks Neil!) One last question: so I've learned the hard way of the value of quickpkg. Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
James wrote: Jameswirelessat tampabay.rr.com writes: copy the gcc-*.tbz2 package from $PKGDIR on that to the broken system, then emerge -1k gcc. emergeing gcc now (thanks Neil!) One last question: so I've learned the hard way of the value of quickpkg. Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? James I have this set in my make.conf: FEATURES=buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going Yours may vary but the buildpkg part is what you need. There is also buildsyspkg but in the past, I had it to not keep some system packages. If you use either of those, man eclean. That will keep the cruft out. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Why is KDE part of the system set?
On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 11:34:09AM -0600, Dale wrote I didn't tell portage to include KDE, qt, and a boatload of other stuff to be part of @system. Did I enable the kde USE flag, yea. That should be part of the world stuff not the system stuff. If I disable kde, qt and all the others then my GUI is going to be junk if it would even work at all. What you're saying is that you want *SOME*, but not all, packages to be built with certain flags. That's what package.use was designed for. If you enable kde globally in your USE var, everything that can be built with KDE support will be built with KDE support. If you enable it for only certain packages, it will only show up for certain packages. You have kde and symantic-desktop in your USE, sorry, you're going to pull in a lot of crap, no if's-and's-or's-but's. BTW, I assure you that I am absolutely neutral in the GNOME/KDE war... the pox on both their houses. I didn't buy a computer to run desktops, I bought a computer to run applications. Now it's possible that many of the flags in your combined USE are pulled in by your profile. The way to avoid that is to start your USE with -* and only add what is absolutely necessary, either in USE in make.conf or on a package-by-package basis in package.use. I started doing that some years ago after the developers in their infinite wisdom decided to include ipv6 by default. Firefox and mplayer and anything else that connected to the net would spin their wheels for 30 to 45 seconds, while IPV6 DNS requests timed out, and then fall back to IPV4. I did *NOT* appreciate that. I guess the kernel will have the kde USE flag next. lol At least that should be in @system tho. ;-) Check your profile. Is it kde-desktop? And while you're at it, set your ALSA_CARDS variable in /etc/make.conf. It seems to be pulling in everything by default. -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 02/24/2011 06:30 PM, Mick wrote: On Thursday 24 February 2011 21:51:56 dhk wrote: Thanks, but I've tried that. ssh'ing to the hostname and loopback address work. However, when I go out to the WAN it doesn't. So I can't ssh user@123.123.123.123 even though I have port 22 open on the switch for my ip. Just to state the obvious, have your tried something like: $ nc -v -z 123.123.123.123 22 123.123.123.123 (ssh) open from a WAN client to make sure that the port is open? I don't have the nc comand. What package is it in?
[gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
Dale rdalek1967 at gmail.com writes: Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? FEATURES=buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going I saw this (FEATURES=buildpkg) googling around. 1. What is a good list of software to use buildpkg on? 2. Once you decide those packages, where do you put the list? Surely I do not wish to use buildpkg on every installed package, a few or maybe the entire @system. I have not found the answer to [1] or [2]. This is muddy, because supposedly the profile is suppose to protect the key packages for --depclean ? [2] default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop * So is gcc protected somehow by the profile? I think not.. Still googling but not find any clear answers, mostly cruft from years ago James
[gentoo-user] Updating to gnome 2.32.x -- building totem fails.
Sometimes I think I'm the only gnome fan in this wild jungle of kde users, pardon my paranoia. Anyway, I went through the same problem with totem on my ~x86 and ~amd64 machines a few months ago, and now I've just hit it again on my last amd64 (gentoo-stable) machine because gnome-2.32.x just made the 'stable' list. The totem package fails to build for reasons I could have explained in great detail two months ago because I actually read through the ebuild and the totem config files and I finally concluded (for reasons I forgot almost instantly) that totem-2.32.0 won't build while the X server is running. No, don't be silly, of course I don't remember why. If you want to update totem to 2.32.0 you must log out of your gnome session and emerge totem from a boring old command prompt. Only then may you resume your life as a gentoo gnome, like moi.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: howto recover gcc from another system
James wrote: Dalerdalek1967at gmail.com writes: Besides gcc, what is a good list of critical software to use guickpkg as to keep backup binaries? FEATURES=buildpkg sandbox fixpackages parallel-fetch --keep-going I saw this (FEATURES=buildpkg) googling around. 1. What is a good list of software to use buildpkg on? 2. Once you decide those packages, where do you put the list? Surely I do not wish to use buildpkg on every installed package, a few or maybe the entire @system. I have not found the answer to [1] or [2]. This is muddy, because supposedly the profile is suppose to protect the key packages for --depclean ? [2] default/linux/amd64/10.0/desktop * So is gcc protected somehow by the profile? I think not.. Still googling but not find any clear answers, mostly cruft from years ago James Short version, man make.conf for more info. buildpkg, keeps a binary of EVERYTHING installed. Now buildsyspkg only keeps binaries for system packages. If you have plenty of disk space, I would use buildpkg. If you have a lappy or are short of disk space, then buildpkg would work. Just keep in mind that some packages may not get saved. After thinking about this, I'm pretty sure I lost python once and buildsyspkg didn't keep a binary copy around. Just try to emerge something without python installed. :-( There is no list for you to keep. Portage does that. That help? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh problem
On 25/2/2011, at 1:08am, dhk wrote: I don't have the nc comand. What package is it in? net-analyzer/netcat
