Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:55:55 schrieb Lavender: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ there. You can download it there. It helps you with building. btw: make -jX make modules_install install With make all modules_install install or make make modules_install you only have one make instance. Which is very slow. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 18:19, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I have my garden. That gets me outside in the sun and some exercise. I really need a gut buster tho. I just eat to much. lol Dale I lost 45 pounds (approximately 25% of my pre-diet weight) this year on Atkins. I know a lot of folks have trouble with Atkins but it worked great for me. - Mark My problems are I like to cook and I like my cooking. Since I have arthritis and all, I can't jog or run it off. Oh well, I'm not that bad but I do have a gut I'd like to loan someone. I wish I could transfer it to my girlfriend. She could use it. lol She's really little, like 85 to 90 lbs little. o_o If your back isn't in bad form, try stronglifts. There's nothing better than powerlifts to keep your back safe.
[gentoo-user] DVB-T and Teletext
Hi, (sorry if this may only apply to german television...) Kaffeine/vlc are installed for watching DVB-T broadcast, but I cannot access Teletext. How can I access Teletext on DVB-T ??? Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Thanks a lot ! The e-book is nice ! Hmm, Linux Kernel in a Nutshell , I haven't heard it before , would you like to recommend more books about linux kernel ? -- Original -- From: Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com; Date: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 02:21 PM To: gentoo-usergentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel? Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:55:55 schrieb Lavender: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ there. You can download it there. It helps you with building. btw: make -jX make modules_install install With make all modules_install install or make make modules_install you only have one make instance. Which is very slow. -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't INSTALL vim-core!!!
.-(~)-(ayu@Freedom )- `-- portageq config_protect /etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt This is the output,but it does any matter ? 2011/10/9 Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Sat, 8 Oct 2011 21:05:31 +0800, 1990 dqgcs wrote: After emerge -auvDN world,Portage asks me to reinstall app-editors/vim-core-7.3.266,but finaly i failed it stays at installing /var/tmp/portage/app-editors/vim-core-7.3.266/image//usr/share/man/fr/man1/vim.1 forever(in fact,i wait about half an hour) what should i do?PLZ help!!! I had this happen when something added an NFS share to CONFIG_PROTECT in /etc/env.d. See if portageq config_protect shows anything that would take a long time to scan. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 01F: Reserved for future mistakes of our developers.
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't INSTALL vim-core!!!
I apply the update package.keywords and package.use ,but I still can't install it .I will try to compile vim by myself. 2011/10/8 Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net please run etc-update and try again Am Sat, 8 Oct 2011 21:05:31 +0800 schrieb 1990 dqgcs dqgcs1...@gmail.com: HI After emerge -auvDN world,Portage asks me to reinstall app-editors/vim-core-7.3.266,but finaly i failed it stays at installing /var/tmp/portage/app-editors/vim-core-7.3.266/image//usr/share/man/fr/man1/vim.1 forever(in fact,i wait about half an hour) what should i do?PLZ help!!! the attachement is the output of the emerge while installing gvim. Best Wishes Nicola Eleree
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Lavender 448463...@qq.com wrote: Yeah, your reply is exact what I mean , but I'm really confused by those modules' names, I can't find any contact between the hard device name and its module name . For example, there is a module named 3c59x.ko , I totally don't know what device it present for , This got a *lot* easier back when sysfs was added. cd /sys/module/modulename/drivers/ And go from there lspci will help you see the 'text' name for the device in question. For example, let's say I don't know what the 'ahci' module is for. $ cd /sys/module/ahci/drivers $ ls pci:ahci $ cd pci\:ahci/ $ ls :00:11.0 bind module new_id remove_id uevent unbind $ sudo lspci|grep 11.0 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] $ So now I know the ahci module manages my SATA controller. I mean I can't figure out that which module correspond to which device though I know the hard devices consisted of my PC. So I need information about contact between them so that I could know what modules need to be chosen in kernel , also the options of kernel are quiet a lot , there're many features that I never heard , I want to find them out . May be you think these problems are too easy , but I have never contacted them before . Pretty sure we've all been there before. It helps to have some foreknowledge about hardware standards and the like, but it's not strictly necessary. As long as you're interested in *how* to find information, and use that knowledge once you find it, I don't doubt people will be interested in helping. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Lavender 448463...@qq.com wrote: Yeah, your reply is exact what I mean , but I'm really confused by those modules' names, I can't find any contact between the hard device name and its module name . For example, there is a module named 3c59x.ko , I totally don't know what device it present for , This got a *lot* easier back when sysfs was added. cd /sys/module/modulename/drivers/ And go from there lspci will help you see the 'text' name for the device in question. For example, let's say I don't know what the 'ahci' module is for. $ cd /sys/module/ahci/drivers $ ls pci:ahci $ cd pci\:ahci/ $ ls :00:11.0 bind module new_id remove_id uevent unbind $ sudo lspci|grep 11.0 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] $ So now I know the ahci module manages my SATA controller. Came up with something possibly a little handier. This command should tell you what driver is associated with every device on the system. find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' Output could probably still be a bit better cleaned up, but it should help. -- :wq
[gentoo-user] 回复： [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Thank you all ! Thanks for helping , now I know which things I should do . -- 原始邮件 -- 发件人: Michael Molmike...@gmail.com; 发送时间: 2011年10月9日(星期天) 晚上9:40 收件人: gentoo-usergentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; 主题: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel? On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Lavender 448463...@qq.com wrote: Yeah, your reply is exact what I mean , but I'm really confused by those modules' names, I can't find any contact between the hard device name and its module name . For example, there is a module named 3c59x.ko , I totally don't know what device it present for , This got a *lot* easier back when sysfs was added. cd /sys/module/modulename/drivers/ And go from there lspci will help you see the 'text' name for the device in question. For example, let's say I don't know what the 'ahci' module is for. $ cd /sys/module/ahci/drivers $ ls pci:ahci $ cd pci\:ahci/ $ ls :00:11.0 bind module new_id remove_id uevent unbind $ sudo lspci|grep 11.0 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] $ So now I know the ahci module manages my SATA controller. Came up with something possibly a little handier. This command should tell you what driver is associated with every device on the system. find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' Output could probably still be a bit better cleaned up, but it should help. -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:55:55 schrieb Lavender: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ there. You can download it there. It helps you with building. btw: make -jX make modules_install install With make all modules_install install or make make modules_install you only have one make instance. Which is very slow. I get 404 errors on the links on the page. Is there some secret to getting them? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Michael Mol wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Michael Molmike...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 12:53 AM, Lavender448463...@qq.com wrote: Yeah, your reply is exact what I mean , but I'm really confused by those modules' names, I can't find any contact between the hard device name and its module name . For example, there is a module named 3c59x.ko , I totally don't know what device it present for , This got a *lot* easier back when sysfs was added. cd /sys/module/modulename/drivers/ And go from there lspci will help you see the 'text' name for the device in question. For example, let's say I don't know what the 'ahci' module is for. $ cd /sys/module/ahci/drivers $ ls pci:ahci $ cd pci\:ahci/ $ ls :00:11.0 bind module new_id remove_id uevent unbind $ sudo lspci|grep 11.0 00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [AHCI mode] $ So now I know the ahci module manages my SATA controller. Came up with something possibly a little handier. This command should tell you what driver is associated with every device on the system. find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' Output could probably still be a bit better cleaned up, but it should help. Let's not fail to mention lspci -k either. That is a handy tool. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Michael Mol wrote: Came up with something possibly a little handier. This command should tell you what driver is associated with every device on the system. find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' Output could probably still be a bit better cleaned up, but it should help. Hmm: root@fireball / # find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' '-f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' cut: the delimiter must be a single character Try `cut --help' for more information. xargs: ls: terminated by signal 13 root@fireball / # Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 9:59 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: Let's not fail to mention lspci -k either. That is a handy tool. Heh. Now if only I'd known... -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Lavender 448463...@qq.com [11-10-09 03:07]: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! Hi, when I am setup a new system for example after changing the motherboard and CPU for some reason, I normally boot into a live sysrtem like ubuntoo or such, check whether the most things are running and do a lsmod. Then I mount the tmp dir rw of my hd, which is on a separate filesystem, and paste all valuable info on that like the output of lsmod, lsusb and such. Then I use this infos for setting up a new kernel. Only ashot in the dark... HTH! Best regards, mcc
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Mol wrote: Came up with something possibly a little handier. This command should tell you what driver is associated with every device on the system. find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' Output could probably still be a bit better cleaned up, but it should help. Hmm: root@fireball / # find /sys/devices -name driver -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' '-f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' cut: the delimiter must be a single character Try `cut --help' for more information. xargs: ls: terminated by signal 13 root@fireball / # Your -f got stuck attached to the -d argument. Wordwrap reconstruction fail. :-| Try this for an alternate representation: find /sys/devices -name driver \ -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' \ -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' -- :wq
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Michael Mol wrote: find /sys/devices -name driver \ -print0|xargs -0 ls -l|cut -d' ' \ -f10-|sed -e 's/\.\.\///g' That worked better. I did have to copy it from the email to kwrite, because of the word wrapping, then to a Konsole. It would be nice if we could disable that in plain text emails sometimes. Word wrapping that is. I was really looking forward to the book thing too. Bummer. Life's a biscuit then you get burned in the oven. lol Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
AM USE=perl tells you squat, you don't even know what effect it will AM have. You'd have to read the ebuild and the source to figure that out. AM A MUCH better name is USE=tabs with a description like this Provide AM multiple tabs, requires perl. No, that is not a better name for the USE flag. Anyone who has read the docs for rxvt-unicode knows that the perl extension is just that, an *extension*. It is perfectly valid to configure rxvt-unicode with --disable-perl. And on some smaller boxen it may even be necessary. (Sometimes conserving ram is more important than extra functionality.) perl is the right USE flag for rxvt-unciode, and should remain a USE flag. It enables much more functionality than just the tabbed extension, but does so at an expense. An expense which is easily noticed on smaller boxen. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP: 1024D/ED7DAEA6
Re: [gentoo-user] DVB-T and Teletext
Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:47:09 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, (sorry if this may only apply to german television...) Kaffeine/vlc are installed for watching DVB-T broadcast, but I cannot access Teletext. How can I access Teletext on DVB-T ??? with alevt. Google would have told you that or with vlc. Google too. From google: alevt -vbi /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?
Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 17:49:25 schrieb Lavender: Thanks a lot ! The e-book is nice ! Hmm, Linux Kernel in a Nutshell , I haven't heard it before , would you like to recommend more books about linux kernel ? no, I don't know any other book (well.. one - linux/unix Kurzreferenz - all the commands, comaprism of shells, plus how to get out of vi(m) without going insanse, awk etc pp.. in one nice book). -- Original -- From: Volker Armin Hemmannvolkerar...@googlemail.com; Date: Sun, Oct 9, 2011 02:21 PM To: gentoo-usergentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel? Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:55:55 schrieb Lavender: It seems that no matter I build gentoo manually or with genkernel I can't have a fine-working kernel finally. Obviously I must solve it by myself , so I determined to build entire kernel all manually , it requests a lot of linux knowlege . All for that, I hope someone could tell me where to get this information , I haven't found them on gentoo.org , so please lead me to the correct direction, thank you for you all ! http://www.kroah.com/lkn/ there. You can download it there. It helps you with building. btw: make -jX make modules_install install With make all modules_install install or make make modules_install you only have one make instance. Which is very slow. -- #163933 -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] DVB-T and Teletext
Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [11-10-09 19:00]: Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:47:09 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, (sorry if this may only apply to german television...) Kaffeine/vlc are installed for watching DVB-T broadcast, but I cannot access Teletext. How can I access Teletext on DVB-T ??? with alevt. Google would have told you that or with vlc. Google too. From google: alevt -vbi /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 -- #163933 Hi Volker, from my own experience, which lead to my posting: It does not work that way... Do you know of other possibilities?
Re: [gentoo-user] DVB-T and Teletext
Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 19:08:22 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com [11-10-09 19:00]: Am Sonntag 09 Oktober 2011, 08:47:09 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, (sorry if this may only apply to german television...) Kaffeine/vlc are installed for watching DVB-T broadcast, but I cannot access Teletext. How can I access Teletext on DVB-T ??? with alevt. Google would have told you that or with vlc. Google too. From google: alevt -vbi /dev/dvb/adapter0/demux0 -- #163933 Hi Volker, from my own experience, which lead to my posting: It does not work that way... Do you know of other possibilities? nope - I am using kaffeine and do not miss teletext... -- #163933
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 12:48:09 -0400 James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com wrote: AM USE=perl tells you squat, you don't even know what effect it AM will have. You'd have to read the ebuild and the source to figure AM that out. AM A MUCH better name is USE=tabs with a description like this AM Provide multiple tabs, requires perl. No, that is not a better name for the USE flag. Anyone who has read the docs for rxvt-unicode knows that the perl extension is just that, an *extension*. It is perfectly valid to configure rxvt-unicode with --disable-perl. And on some smaller boxen it may even be necessary. (Sometimes conserving ram is more important than extra functionality.) perl is the right USE flag for rxvt-unciode, and should remain a USE flag. It enables much more functionality than just the tabbed extension, but does so at an expense. An expense which is easily noticed on smaller boxen. Fair enough. I suspected the flag might enable plugins and considered finding out what it actually does. But I didn't bother because I don't use rxvt myself and that specific wasn't the point of my post anyway. I still maintain the perl is not a good name for that flag. It does not describe what the flag accomplishes, it describes an implementation detail of how it is used. USE=perl communicates very little; it might communicate a lot to you if you know the guts of the app, but very little to the casual observer wanting to find out what rxvt is. I run into this kind of thing all the time, and not just with USE flags, it's endemic amongst coders. The problem is best described like so high level description should expose what your code does, not how it does it. I understand why coders make this kind of mistake - expediency. It's easier to re-use the existing perl flag than to make a whole new one in use.local.desc For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said, perl: enable the following plugins (written in perl): tabs, transparency, etc. In fact, that would be my favorite solution.
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:11:11 -0500, Dale wrote: I might also add, some of my meds don't help either. Is there a med that doesn't make a person gain weight? :/ Arsenic, strychnine or cyanide is large enough doses do that :) -- Neil Bothwick Give a man a fish and you have fed him for a day, but give him a case of dynamite and soon the village will be showered with mud and seaweed and unidentifiable chunks of fish. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] I can't INSTALL vim-core!!!
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011 20:50:50 +0800, 1990 dqgcs wrote: `-- portageq config_protect /etc /usr/share/config /usr/share/gnupg/qualified.txt This is the output,but it does any matter ? No, you have a different problem. PS The convention on this list is to not top-post. -- Neil Bothwick Walking on water and writing software to specification is easy if they're frozen. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:11:11 -0500, Dale wrote: I might also add, some of my meds don't help either. Is there a med that doesn't make a person gain weight? :/ Arsenic, strychnine or cyanide is large enough doses do that :) LOL That would solve a few other problems too. Then again, it may solve a few other peoples problem too. That would be when I am gone of course. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
On Oct 10, 2011 2:01 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote: On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said, perl: enable the following plugins (written in perl): tabs, transparency, etc. In fact, that would be my favorite solution. Agree. The current USE flags are already proper. What's lacking is a list of consequences for disabling/enabling each applicable flag. Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
On Oct 10, 2011 2:52 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:11:11 -0500, Dale wrote: I might also add, some of my meds don't help either. Is there a med that doesn't make a person gain weight? :/ Arsenic, strychnine or cyanide is large enough doses do that :) Gosh, you're extreme ... :-P Rgds,
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Computers and mental/emotional health
Pandu Poluan wrote: On Oct 10, 2011 2:52 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk mailto:n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sat, 08 Oct 2011 19:11:11 -0500, Dale wrote: I might also add, some of my meds don't help either. Is there a med that doesn't make a person gain weight? :/ Arsenic, strychnine or cyanide is large enough doses do that :) Gosh, you're extreme ... :-P Rgds, Nah, he just likes to pick on me. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
