Re: [gentoo-user] eselect sh set dash?
Am 01.05.2012 18:53, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 29.04.2012 16:04, schrieb Marc Joliet: Am Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:20:41 +0200 schrieb Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net: Hi list! Hi, Now that eselect-sh has been stabilized, I'm wondering if anyone has tried setting dash as the /bin/sh symlink. Any experiences? I've been using dash as my /bin/sh for a while now. I've had it installed since June 2009, I suppose I've had the symlink set for the same length of time. Pretty much all incompatibilities I encountered are fixed now, stuff like openrc introducing bashisms (what fun! I never used the debug option of an init script before or since), or the Audacity build system having #!/bin/sh but using bashisms. I seem to recall that I have one package installed that has this problem and requires changing the symlink temporarily, but I don't remember which. It might have been fixed by now, though. Also, the old mysql-init-scripts-1.2 package requires bash, in case that matters to you. The dmcrypt init script also has a single bashism. A bug about this has been open for quiet some time now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408117 So I don't think you should expect any problems (save for the rare exception), and for me there was a noticeable speedup with the init system (also reported by Flameeyes in his blog). Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp HTH Hi Marc, thanks for the info! I've tried it on one of my systems and in my measurements, it definitely scraped off a few seconds of the reboot cycle. Regards, Florian Philipp I suggest that anyone who wants to switch tries something like this before rebooting to see if the init scripts can be parsed by dash: for i in /etc/init.d/*; do printf '%s\t' $i; $i status; done Regards, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: firefox 10.0.4 upgrading compiling failed.
You are right, actually I mount /var/tmp/portage as tmpfs and assign 4GB for it. The total memory size is 4GB. Thanks a lot! :) On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Markus Trippelsdorf mar...@trippelsdorf.dewrote: On 2012.05.05 at 08:47 +0800, AleiPhoenix (A.K.A Areverie) wrote: Hi, guys, The most recent sync brings me upgrading firefox from 10.0.3 to 10.0.4 but emake failed at compiling phase. The output and emerge info is at http://pastebin.com/2m4gGV3J and http://pastebin.com/LG6MgLvN Could anyone help me out ? You ran out of memory during the final libxul link. Look into your dmesg for the oom killer... -- Markus -- Silence is gold. twitter: @areverie wikipedia: AleiPhoenix blog: weblog.areverie.org wiki: wiki.areverie.org
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal web server
On Sat, 5 May 2012 02:39:27 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Backing up routers, I have an option I can issue from the a router: #copy running-config [http | https] url so if my laptop is running some minimal web server (suggestions are most welcome) and I have local IP connectivity (say both on a 10.10.10.x network, The I could just issue this command? copy running-config http://10.10.10.laptop web server IP It should work and it's simple. What would be some recommendations as to which minimal web server I could run on a laptop (simple and small) to just backup various router configs to? How many routers are you backing up and what are your needs? If you have lots of them and need some kind of record, then rancid is a most excellent tools. It's also very Unixy so you get bonus points there. https://www.shrubbery.net It's a completely different take on the problem you posed in your mail. -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal web server
On Saturday 05 May 2012 05:32:54 Stroller wrote: On 5 May 2012, at 03:39, James wrote: … #copy running-config [http | https] url … The I could just issue this command? The question mark terminating this statement seems dubious. This appears to be a feature of Cisco routers. http://stack.nil.com/C1256F0A00429755/html/webupload/ copy running-config http://10.10.10.laptop web server IP It should work and it's simple. What would be some recommendations as to which minimal web server I could run on a laptop (simple and small) to just backup various router configs to? www-servers/lighttpd is famously small and on my system all its dependencies are already installed. It has a USE=minimal flag you might also try, for fewer calories. As a matter of practice I would not leave any webserver running on my laptop, or even installed, for longer than necessary. I would prefer to have a home or office webserver to which I could transfer these files and from which the router can obtain them. Rationally, I have no idea why I imagine one site to be more secure than the other. Consider this installation-free alternative: http://www.google.co.uk/searchq=one+line+python+web+server Other alternatives are boa, thttpd, nginx. You can also run netcat as 'nc -l -p 80 backup_20120418.cfg' and then run the copy command from the router. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Re: minimal web server
On 2012-05-05, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Hello, Backing up routers, I have an option I can issue from the a router: #copy running-config [http | https] url so if my laptop is running some minimal web server (suggestions are most welcome) and I have local IP connectivity (say both on a 10.10.10.x network, The I could just issue this command? copy running-config http://10.10.10.laptop web server IP It should work and it's simple. What would be some recommendations as to which minimal web server I could run on a laptop (simple and small) to just backup various router configs to? I don't really understand what you're talking about with the copy command, but the busybox httpd server is very simple and easy to run. Lightpd is also smallish. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal web server
On 05/05/2012 05:39, James wrote: Hello, Backing up routers, I have an option I can issue from the a router: #copy running-config [http | https]url so if my laptop is running some minimal web server (suggestions are most welcome) and I have local IP connectivity (say both on a 10.10.10.x network, The I could just issue this command? copy running-config http://10.10.10.laptop web server IP It should work and it's simple. What would be some recommendations as to which minimal web server I could run on a laptop (simple and small) to just backup various router configs to? James how about small ftp server instead http\https server? Eliezer -- Eliezer Croitoru https://www1.ngtech.co.il IT consulting for Nonprofit organizations eliezer at ngtech.co.il
[gentoo-user] Re: minimal web server
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: #copy running-config [http | https] url How many routers are you backing up and what are your needs? It varies. I seem to 'inherit' networks that are not populated by humans (mostly machines controls). I like to first copy the running configurations to my laptop as often the routers are old and nobody seems to know much about them. (yea as an old linux_hag I get work on stuff that most other will not touch). As a PE in Controls, I seem to get lucky and am able to patch, enhance or replace equipment, with minimal disturbances to the myriad of protocols and legacy heuristics that inhabit these plants. It's a situation where if you break it, you own the problem. I try very hard to keep Microsoft based technologies out of the plants. Microsoft(anything) is mostly a disaster in the Process Controls space. I often prove this to a customer, by dropping in a sniffer here and there and show them the myriad of shit_traffic that Microsoft(anything) generates just to move a few bits around. Besides, if you don't believe me, just ask the IRANIANS how wonderful MS is (think stuxnet virus). (enough background?) I use a laptop, as often the sites do not have any remote access or it is blocked. I grab a config and then figure out a fix, only to return later, sometimes with drop in replacement hardware. Too often, I'm content to just hack at the old existing (shit) hardware. Industrial folks are not so robust on their nets that control machines and such.Often, Poor practices and little of a structured management system exist. Still, I get to avoid humans, so I trudge along, meeking out a living https://www.shrubbery.net/rancid Rancid looks interesting enough to explore. Do you have an unofficial ebuild somewhere, or do you just hack the install on gentoo? James
[gentoo-user] Is there a tool to measure the current bitrate and frame drop rate?
Hi, what tool can I use (and in which way) to measure the current rate of dropped frames and the current bit rate of a video? Thank you very much in advance for any help! Best regards, mcc
[gentoo-user] «-»: [gentoo-user] eselect sh set dash?
Hi All, also readahead-list has some problems with dash as sh. S On 2012-05-05 11:17, Florian Philipp wrote: Am 01.05.2012 18:53, schrieb Florian Philipp: Am 29.04.2012 16:04, schrieb Marc Joliet: Am Sun, 29 Apr 2012 00:20:41 +0200 schrieb Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net: Hi list! Hi, Now that eselect-sh has been stabilized, I'm wondering if anyone has tried setting dash as the /bin/sh symlink. Any experiences? I've been using dash as my /bin/sh for a while now. I've had it installed since June 2009, I suppose I've had the symlink set for the same length of time. Pretty much all incompatibilities I encountered are fixed now, stuff like openrc introducing bashisms (what fun! I never used the debug option of an init script before or since), or the Audacity build system having #!/bin/sh but using bashisms. I seem to recall that I have one package installed that has this problem and requires changing the symlink temporarily, but I don't remember which. It might have been fixed by now, though. Also, the old mysql-init-scripts-1.2 package requires bash, in case that matters to you. The dmcrypt init script also has a single bashism. A bug about this has been open for quiet some time now: https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=408117 So I don't think you should expect any problems (save for the rare exception), and for me there was a noticeable speedup with the init system (also reported by Flameeyes in his blog). Thanks in advance! Florian Philipp HTH Hi Marc, thanks for the info! I've tried it on one of my systems and in my measurements, it definitely scraped off a few seconds of the reboot cycle. Regards, Florian Philipp I suggest that anyone who wants to switch tries something like this before rebooting to see if the init scripts can be parsed by dash: for i in /etc/init.d/*; do printf '%s\t' "$i"; "$i" status; done Regards, Florian Philipp -- Samuraiii e-mail: samura...@volny.cz GnuPG key ID: 0x80C752EA (obtainable on http://pgp.mit.edu) Full copy of public timestamp block signatures id-14723 (from 2012-05-05 18:00:06) is included in header of html. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] minimal web server
Re , James said: #copy running-config [http | https] url Routers can usually also write to a tftp or ftp server. Those are actually simpler to set up. To use HTTP you would also have to set up a POST handler. -- Keith -- -- ~ Keith Dart ke...@dartworks.biz public key: ID: 19017044 http://www.dartworks.biz/ =
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: minimal web server
On Sat, 5 May 2012 16:29:47 + (UTC) James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: #copy running-config [http | https] url How many routers are you backing up and what are your needs? It varies. I seem to 'inherit' networks that are not populated by humans (mostly machines controls). I like to first copy the running configurations to my laptop as often the routers are old and nobody seems to know much about them. (yea as an old linux_hag I get work on stuff that most other will not touch). As a PE in Controls, I seem to get lucky and am able to patch, enhance or replace equipment, with minimal disturbances to the myriad of protocols and legacy heuristics that inhabit these plants. It's a situation where if you break it, you own the problem. I try very hard to keep Microsoft based technologies out of the plants. Microsoft(anything) is mostly a disaster in the Process Controls space. I often prove this to a customer, by dropping in a sniffer here and there and show them the myriad of shit_traffic that Microsoft(anything) generates just to move a few bits around. Besides, if you don't believe me, just ask the IRANIANS how wonderful MS is (think stuxnet virus). (enough background?) I use a laptop, as often the sites do not have any remote access or it is blocked. I grab a config and then figure out a fix, only to return later, sometimes with drop in replacement hardware. Too often, I'm content to just hack at the old existing (shit) hardware. Industrial folks are not so robust on their nets that control machines and such.Often, Poor practices and little of a structured management system exist. Still, I get to avoid humans, so I trudge along, meeking out a living https://www.shrubbery.net/rancid Rancid looks interesting enough to explore. Do you have an unofficial ebuild somewhere, or do you just hack the install on gentoo? Our rancid stuff runs on FreeBSD (I banned Gentoo from all new production installs 3 years ago...) so we mostly don't bother with packages. Good old ./configure make make install is what works for us. rancid is awesome for what it does, but I doubt it will suit your needs. Because it logs int a device periodically, it needs direct access somehow. And considering the age of some of the stuff you have[1] most of it won't support ssh properly, so you need telnet. There goes any idea of polling devices for backup purposes and we're back to grabbing the config off the router on-site. Like several others said already, I'd go for ftp rather than http for this, it's just easier. [1] lemme guess - you deal with actual live networks right? Real ones that people built. Not the kind of mythical networks described in Gartner white papers and Cisco training manual where everything is somehow supposed to all just magically work out the box (but doesn't...)? -- Alan McKinnnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
