[gentoo-user] Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Hello,

My / (root) lives on /dev/sdb1.  My /dev/sda has no partitions and no data
except for what I presume is the mbr written by lilo.  [history: sdb is an
SSD and I never wanted to use the slow sda]

I have been playing with ZFS on a USB drive and I am ready to create a
zpool on /dev/sda.

ZFS recommends that I give it the entire drive (partitioning discouraged).
 In this case I hesitate to give ZFS my entire drive as I worry ZFS will
clobber my MBR rendering my system unbootable.

Are my fears warranted?  If so, what should I do about it?  If you
recommend that I partition sda, what parameters do I used to avoid a
clobber?

Thank you,

Chris


Re: [gentoo-user] Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread Michael Hampicke
Am 22.01.2014 10:01, schrieb Chris Stankevitz:
 Hello,
 
 My / (root) lives on /dev/sdb1.  My /dev/sda has no partitions and no data
 except for what I presume is the mbr written by lilo.  [history: sdb is an
 SSD and I never wanted to use the slow sda]
 
 I have been playing with ZFS on a USB drive and I am ready to create a
 zpool on /dev/sda.
 
 ZFS recommends that I give it the entire drive (partitioning discouraged).
  In this case I hesitate to give ZFS my entire drive as I worry ZFS will
 clobber my MBR rendering my system unbootable.
 
 Are my fears warranted?  If so, what should I do about it?  If you
 recommend that I partition sda, what parameters do I used to avoid a
 clobber?
 

I don't know if creating a ZFS volume on /dev/sda kill break your mbr.
But why don't you install lilo on /dev/sdb ?
You change change the boot order in BIOS after that.




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Re: [gentoo-user] webcam software

2014-01-22 Thread gottlieb
On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Sat, Jan 18 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Jan 18, 2014 4:02 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 My main system is a dell latitude E6430s.   I am embarrassed to say
 that, although I have had this system for a while, I just now realized
 that it has a build in webcam.  What software do you recommend and what
 should I start reading to learn how to use it.

 To play with it, and of you already use GNOME, I recommend Cheese. It's
 actually fun to use.

 Thank you canek (and walt, james, and eroen) but I didn't make clear the
 level of my ignorance.  I have never used a webcam, but I recently
 became a grandfather so figured I should learn.  I must need a driver
 for the camera.  According to lsusb I have

 Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:646b Microdia
 (the 400 line verbose output is at the end of this msg).

 [snip]

 But, as I mentioned, I am a complete novice with webcams and wonder if I
 am way off base here.  Is the above the right path to follow?

 [Humongous snip]

 Ah, you need first the drivers then. Don't bother with out-of-tree
 drivers. Try (directly in your kernel) USB_VIDEO_CLASS (a.k.a. UVC),
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA, and if that doesn't work enable all of
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_*. Mine works only with CONFIG_USB_GSPCA.

 After loading the modules, or booting with the new kernel, see if you
 have /dev/v4l (it's a dir). Then any modern software (e.g., Cheese or
 google-talkplugin) will autodetect the camera.

 Regards.

Sounds like a plan.
thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] OT - memory testing

2014-01-22 Thread Linux

Hiya Mick;

Thanks for your response.  Great ideas.  I'll pass it along.

-Skippy


On 1/21/2014 11:42 PM, Mick wrote:

On Tuesday 21 Jan 2014 23:11:24 Skippy wrote:


Have you ever found a program in linux that allows you to locate bad
dims if you have faults?  I’ve tried memtest86, memconf, memtester and
none of them can point out what slot on the motherboard has the bad RAM.


memtest86+ is  what I use, but I have not found an application that will
identify and report on its own a faulty module or controller out of a whole
bank of them.  Press F2 when it starts, to enable SMT support and get the
tests done a bit faster.



  I know usually you just plug in one at a time.  But memtest86 takes
hours and I have…wait for it….16 slots to test DIMs on for this specific
server with memory failure.


You don't have to test 16 modules one at a time, although you will have to run
the test more than once:

Remove half (8) of the memory modules.  Ensure what is left is installed in
the slot combination recommended by the MoBo manufacturer.  Test these.  If no
fault is found swap them for the other half.  As soon as a fault is reported,
remove half of this batch (4) and install the other 4 as recommended by the
MoBo manufacturer.  Rinse and repeat.  This way you will eventually isolate
the dodgy DIMM module, by running the test fewer than 16 times.  Usually
errors show in the first round of tests, but some times you may need to wait
for more than 8 passes.

Before you start any of this it is a good idea to just reseat the modules one
at a time in case you have some dirt or oxidisation in any of the contacts.
That could save a lot of hours ...

Make sure you have marked clearly which batches have showed no errors - if you
mix them up you will have to start from the beginning.  I know I am stating
the obvious, but I have been there with colleagues who like to tidy up other
people's work space sigh.





Re: [gentoo-user] cannot boot using systemd and initrd

2014-01-22 Thread covici
Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote:

 On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:38 AM,  cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  Hi.  I am having a problem booting using systemd and an initrd generated
  by genkernel.
 
  I get the message that says (may be slight paraphrase) that
  /dev/mapper/linux--files-64--root does not appear to be a valid /, try
  again.
 
  Now in the gentoo guide to systemd, I did what I think it wanted me to
  do and wrote in my lilo append line real_init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd
  .  Now looking at the linuxsrc in the initrd, /usr is not even mounted
  when it is looking for its init -- after all that fuss about /usr -- and
  it only seems to look in /sbin for its init and dies.
 
  How can I solve this problem -- I suppose I could copy systemd over, but
  that seems nasty to me and I would have to remember to update it every
  time systemd was updated!
 
  Any assistance on this would be appreciated.
 
 
 This is bug 479730. https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479730
 
 One solution would be to switch to genkernel-next. I recommend the
 latest ~arch version.
 
 Another solution would be to use dracut.

OK, thanks -- gentoo-next looks like a good solution -- I hope it will
still work with openrc since until I am sure systemd will do what I
need, I will use openrc and forget gnome exists.

Thanks again.


-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

 John Covici
 cov...@ccs.covici.com



Re: [gentoo-user] webcam software

2014-01-22 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 22 Jan 2014 12:52:25 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 18 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  On Jan 18, 2014 4:02 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
  My main system is a dell latitude E6430s.   I am embarrassed to say
  that, although I have had this system for a while, I just now realized
  that it has a build in webcam.  What software do you recommend and
  what should I start reading to learn how to use it.
  
  To play with it, and of you already use GNOME, I recommend Cheese. It's
  actually fun to use.
  
  Thank you canek (and walt, james, and eroen) but I didn't make clear the
  level of my ignorance.  I have never used a webcam, but I recently
  became a grandfather so figured I should learn.  I must need a driver
  for the camera.  According to lsusb I have
  
  Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:646b Microdia
  (the 400 line verbose output is at the end of this msg).
  
  [snip]
  
  But, as I mentioned, I am a complete novice with webcams and wonder if I
  am way off base here.  Is the above the right path to follow?
  
  [Humongous snip]
  
  Ah, you need first the drivers then. Don't bother with out-of-tree
  drivers. Try (directly in your kernel) USB_VIDEO_CLASS (a.k.a. UVC),
  CONFIG_USB_GSPCA, and if that doesn't work enable all of
  CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_*. Mine works only with CONFIG_USB_GSPCA.
  
  After loading the modules, or booting with the new kernel, see if you
  have /dev/v4l (it's a dir). Then any modern software (e.g., Cheese or
  google-talkplugin) will autodetect the camera.
  
  Regards.
 
 Sounds like a plan.
 thanks,
 allan


I have a similar camera (from lsusb):

  idVendor   0x0c45 Microdia
  idProduct  0x640e 
  bcdDevice   95.06
  iManufacturer   2 M092S-J00-9C14-SC1NT
  iProduct1 Laptop_Integrated_Webcam_2M


These are modules enabled in the kernel:

$ egrep -i GSPCA /usr/src/linux/.config
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA=m
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_BENQ is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_CONEX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_CPIA1 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ETOMS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_FINEPIX is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_JEILINJ is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_JL2005BCD is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_KINECT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_KONICA is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MARS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MR97310A is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_NW80X is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV519 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534_9 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC207 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC7302 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC7311 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SE401 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SN9C2028 is not set
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SN9C20X=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXB=m
CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXJ=m
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA500 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA501 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA505 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA506 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA508 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA561 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA1528 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905C is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ930X is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_STK014 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_STV0680 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SUNPLUS is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_T613 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_TOPRO is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_TV8532 is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_VC032X is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_VICAM is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_XIRLINK_CIT is not set
# CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ZC3XX is not set

I can't recall how I arrived at these, but probably Google helped me at the 
time.

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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[gentoo-user] g++ -fnothrow-opt

2014-01-22 Thread Florian Philipp
Hi list!

I'm wondering if anyone tried setting -fnothrow-opt as a CXX_FLAG in
make.conf?

It makes C++ throw() statements behave like C++11 nothrow. This could
have measurable performance benefits and will reduce code size. The only
downside is that, when a function violates its throw() guarantee,
terminate() will be called instead of unexpected().

However, neither function is allowed to do anything but terminate the
program. So all you possibly lose is a meaningful error message just
before the program crashes.

So, what do you think? Safe to enable by default?

Thanks in advance!
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] webcam software

2014-01-22 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Mick wrote:

 On Wednesday 22 Jan 2014 12:52:25 gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 21 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  On Tue, Jan 21, 2014 at 9:30 PM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
  On Sat, Jan 18 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  On Jan 18, 2014 4:02 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
  My main system is a dell latitude E6430s.   I am embarrassed to say
  that, although I have had this system for a while, I just now realized
  that it has a build in webcam.  What software do you recommend and
  what should I start reading to learn how to use it.
  
  To play with it, and of you already use GNOME, I recommend Cheese. It's
  actually fun to use.
  
  Thank you canek (and walt, james, and eroen) but I didn't make clear the
  level of my ignorance.  I have never used a webcam, but I recently
  became a grandfather so figured I should learn.  I must need a driver
  for the camera.  According to lsusb I have
  
  Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0c45:646b Microdia
  (the 400 line verbose output is at the end of this msg).
  
  [snip]
  
  But, as I mentioned, I am a complete novice with webcams and wonder if I
  am way off base here.  Is the above the right path to follow?
  
  [Humongous snip]
  
  Ah, you need first the drivers then. Don't bother with out-of-tree
  drivers. Try (directly in your kernel) USB_VIDEO_CLASS (a.k.a. UVC),
  CONFIG_USB_GSPCA, and if that doesn't work enable all of
  CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_*. Mine works only with CONFIG_USB_GSPCA.
  
  After loading the modules, or booting with the new kernel, see if you
  have /dev/v4l (it's a dir). Then any modern software (e.g., Cheese or
  google-talkplugin) will autodetect the camera.
  
  Regards.
 
 Sounds like a plan.
 thanks,
 allan


 I have a similar camera (from lsusb):

   idVendor   0x0c45 Microdia
   idProduct  0x640e 
   bcdDevice   95.06
   iManufacturer   2 M092S-J00-9C14-SC1NT
   iProduct1 Laptop_Integrated_Webcam_2M


 These are modules enabled in the kernel:

 $ egrep -i GSPCA /usr/src/linux/.config
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA=m
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_BENQ is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_CONEX is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_CPIA1 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ETOMS is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_FINEPIX is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_JEILINJ is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_JL2005BCD is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_KINECT is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_KONICA is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MARS is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_MR97310A is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_NW80X is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV519 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_OV534_9 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC207 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC7302 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_PAC7311 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SE401 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SN9C2028 is not set
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SN9C20X=m
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXB=m
 CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SONIXJ=m
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA500 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA501 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA505 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA506 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA508 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA561 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SPCA1528 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ905C is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SQ930X is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_STK014 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_STV0680 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_SUNPLUS is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_T613 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_TOPRO is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_TV8532 is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_VC032X is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_VICAM is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_XIRLINK_CIT is not set
 # CONFIG_USB_GSPCA_ZC3XX is not set

 I can't recall how I arrived at these, but probably Google helped me at the 
 time.

Thank you Mick.

allan



[gentoo-user] Re: webcam software

2014-01-22 Thread walt
On 01/21/2014 07:30 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I recently became a grandfather...

OMG!  You're the youngest person in this group :)




[gentoo-user] trouble with gentoo-sources-3.10.25 and gnome

2014-01-22 Thread gottlieb
Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
3.10.25.  As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
the new kernel would just work.

However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages

Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed.
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed.

Has anyone had a similar problem, and perhaps a fix?  Since 3.10.17
works fine for me, my current plan is to wait for the next stable
kernel ebuild to hit and hope that one is better

thanks,
allan

PS some more context from journalctl (the lines are very long)

Jan 22 17:04:48 localhost ntpd[318]: Listen normally on 5 wired 
fe80::21e:c9ff:fe48:f9a0 UDP 123
Jan 22 17:04:48 localhost ntpd[318]: peers refreshed
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 297 was already dead.
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus-daemon[272]: dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send 
message, 1 matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276 
comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.6 
(uid=0 pid=391 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched 
rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276 comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) 
interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=GetAll error 
name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.6 (uid=0 pid=391 
comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 395 was already dead.
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref: assertion 
`object-ref_count  0' failed
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.050362 seconds
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus-daemon[272]: dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send 
message, 1 matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276 
comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties 
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.7 
(uid=0 pid=397 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send message, 1 matched 
rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276 comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) 
interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties member=GetAll error 
name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.7 (uid=0 pid=397 
comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 401 was already dead.



[gentoo-user] Re: Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:

  But why don't you install lilo on /dev/sdb? You change change the boot
 order in BIOS after that.


 Michael,

Thank you,  that worked perfectly.

Chris


Re: [gentoo-user] Re: webcam software

2014-01-22 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jan 22 2014, walt wrote:

 On 01/21/2014 07:30 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 I recently became a grandfather...

 OMG!  You're the youngest person in this group :)

Well I was born (just) before WWII ended, specifically 2 aug 45.
I hadn't considered the possibility that I was younger than anyone!
:-)

allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Will ZFS clobber my MBR?

2014-01-22 Thread William Kenworthy
On 23/01/14 07:58, Chris Stankevitz wrote:
 On Wednesday, January 22, 2014, Michael Hampicke m...@hadt.biz wrote:

 But why don't you install lilo on /dev/sdb? You change change the boot
 order in BIOS after that.

 
  Michael,
 
 Thank you,  that worked perfectly.
 
 Chris
 

Being someone who is always fiddling with a machines innards ... I
usually embed grub in multiple disks with the menu sometimes pointing to
a rescue partition as well as the main system - saved me a few times.

However, a systemrescuecd usb stick is my current fallback ... and after
a couple of such rescues I think grub2 sucks :)

BillK





Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with gentoo-sources-3.10.25 and gnome

2014-01-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
 3.10.25.  As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
 the new kernel would just work.

 However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages

 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
`object-ref_count  0' failed.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed.

 Has anyone had a similar problem, and perhaps a fix?  Since 3.10.17
 works fine for me, my current plan is to wait for the next stable
 kernel ebuild to hit and hope that one is better

 thanks,
 allan

 PS some more context from journalctl (the lines are very long)

 Jan 22 17:04:48 localhost ntpd[318]: Listen normally on 5 wired
fe80::21e:c9ff:fe48:f9a0 UDP 123
 Jan 22 17:04:48 localhost ntpd[318]: peers refreshed
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 297 was already dead.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
`object-ref_count  0' failed
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus-daemon[272]: dbus[272]: [system] Rejected
send message, 1 matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0
pid=276 comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.6
(uid=0 pid=391 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send message, 1
matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276
comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.6
(uid=0 pid=391 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 395 was already dead.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
`object-ref_count  0' failed
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GdmDisplay: display lasted 0.050362
seconds
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus-daemon[272]: dbus[272]: [system] Rejected
send message, 1 matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0
pid=276 comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.7
(uid=0 pid=397 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost dbus[272]: [system] Rejected send message, 1
matched rules; type=method_call, sender=:1.1 (uid=0 pid=276
comm=/usr/sbin/gdm ) interface=org.freedesktop.DBus.Properties
member=GetAll error name=(unset) requested_reply=0 destination=:1.7
(uid=0 pid=397 comm=/usr/libexec/gdm-simple-slave --display-id /org/gn)
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: Child process 401 was already dead.

Really? It works with one kernel, but not the other?

Are you sure both kernels boot with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd?

Regard.


Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with gentoo-sources-3.10.25 and gnome

2014-01-22 Thread gottlieb
On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
 3.10.25.  As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
 the new kernel would just work.

 However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages

 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
 `object-ref_count  0' failed.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
 assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed.

 Has anyone had a similar problem, and perhaps a fix?  Since 3.10.17
 works fine for me, my current plan is to wait for the next stable
 kernel ebuild to hit and hope that one is better

 thanks,

 Really? It works with one kernel, but not the other?

Surprised me too.  I does work, i.e. the system boots and I can use
the text terminals, but gdm is a nogo

 Are you sure both kernels boot with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd?

I think so.  For one thing the output I included is from journalctl.
This system is grub1 and here is grub.conf

default 0
timeout 10
splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

title Gentoo Linux (vmlinuz)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

title Gentoo Linux, Previous Compilation (vmlinuz.old)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

title Gentoo Linux, known working (vmlinuz.works)
root (hd0,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz.works root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd single

title Windows Vista
rootnoverify (hd0,1)
makeactive
chainloader +1

All I change is the target of  /boot/vmlinuz, System.map, and config

allan



Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with gentoo-sources-3.10.25 and gnome

2014-01-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
 3.10.25.  As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
 the new kernel would just work.

 However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages

 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
 `object-ref_count  0' failed.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
 assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed.

 Has anyone had a similar problem, and perhaps a fix?  Since 3.10.17
 works fine for me, my current plan is to wait for the next stable
 kernel ebuild to hit and hope that one is better

 thanks,

 Really? It works with one kernel, but not the other?

 Surprised me too.  I does work, i.e. the system boots and I can use
 the text terminals, but gdm is a nogo

 Are you sure both kernels boot with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd?

 I think so.  For one thing the output I included is from journalctl.
 This system is grub1 and here is grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 10
 splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title Gentoo Linux (vmlinuz)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

 title Gentoo Linux, Previous Compilation (vmlinuz.old)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

 title Gentoo Linux, known working (vmlinuz.works)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz.works root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd single

 title Windows Vista
 rootnoverify (hd0,1)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1

 All I change is the target of  /boot/vmlinuz, System.map, and config

Oh, I just got it too. It's neither gdm nor systemd; it's the nvidia
binary module. Check lsmod, I bet you don't have it loaded, and dmesg
will have nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete (err
0). No nvidia, no X, no X, no gdm (although the error message it
gives does sound weird).

I'm checking how to get the nvidia drivers in 3.13.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] trouble with gentoo-sources-3.10.25 and gnome

2014-01-22 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 7:54 PM,  gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Jan 22 2014, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Jan 22, 2014 5:55 PM, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 Today, on one amd64/systemd machine, I tried updating 3.10.17 to
 3.10.25.  As expected make oldconfig showed nothing new, so I thought
 the new kernel would just work.

 However gdm failed, with several pairs of messages

 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_ref: assertion
 `object-ref_count  0' failed.
 Jan 22 17:04:49 localhost gdm[276]: GLib-GObject: g_object_unref:
 assertion `object-ref_count  0' failed.

 Has anyone had a similar problem, and perhaps a fix?  Since 3.10.17
 works fine for me, my current plan is to wait for the next stable
 kernel ebuild to hit and hope that one is better

 thanks,

 Really? It works with one kernel, but not the other?

 Surprised me too.  I does work, i.e. the system boots and I can use
 the text terminals, but gdm is a nogo

 Are you sure both kernels boot with init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd?

 I think so.  For one thing the output I included is from journalctl.
 This system is grub1 and here is grub.conf

 default 0
 timeout 10
 splashimage=(hd0,2)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz

 title Gentoo Linux (vmlinuz)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

 title Gentoo Linux, Previous Compilation (vmlinuz.old)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd

 title Gentoo Linux, known working (vmlinuz.works)
 root (hd0,2)
 kernel /boot/vmlinuz.works root=/dev/sda3 init=/usr/lib/systemd/systemd 
 single

 title Windows Vista
 rootnoverify (hd0,1)
 makeactive
 chainloader +1

 All I change is the target of  /boot/vmlinuz, System.map, and config

 Oh, I just got it too. It's neither gdm nor systemd; it's the nvidia
 binary module. Check lsmod, I bet you don't have it loaded, and dmesg
 will have nvidia: Unknown symbol acpi_os_wait_events_complete (err
 0). No nvidia, no X, no X, no gdm (although the error message it
 gives does sound weird).

 I'm checking how to get the nvidia drivers in 3.13.

Got it:

https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/644906/331-20-on-3-13-rc1-kernel/

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México