Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/09/2014 07:32, Joseph wrote:
 Thank you again. On a different subject.  Do you have a good pointer on
 how to backup a system.


Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a
search engine and see what comes back?

Come on dude, we aren't here to do ALL your thinking for you.

-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote:
 On 10/09/2014 07:32, Joseph wrote:
 Thank you again. On a different subject.  Do you have a good pointer on
 how to backup a system.

 Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a
 search engine and see what comes back?

 Come on dude, we aren't here to do ALL your thinking for you.



Even easier,

eix backup

  ;-)

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread J. Roeleveld

On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 02:47:26 AM Dale wrote:
 Alan McKinnon wrote:
  On 10/09/2014 07:32, Joseph wrote:
  Thank you again. On a different subject.  Do you have a good pointer 
on
  how to backup a system.
  
  Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a
  search engine and see what comes back?
  
  Come on dude, we aren't here to do ALL your thinking for you.
 
 Even easier,
 
 eix backup

That only returns 18 packages and you're missing most of the ones in app-
backup/.

Try:
eix app-backup/

That gives you 44 to choose from.

Alternatively, copy every file to a usb-disk and manually confirm they are all 
identical?

--
Joost


Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Dale
J. Roeleveld wrote:

  

 On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 02:47:26 AM Dale wrote:

  Alan McKinnon wrote:

   On 10/09/2014 07:32, Joseph wrote:

   Thank you again. On a different subject. Do you have a good
 pointer on

   how to backup a system.

  

   Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a

   search engine and see what comes back?

  

   Come on dude, we aren't here to do ALL your thinking for you.

 

  Even easier,

 

  eix backup

  

 That only returns 18 packages and you're missing most of the ones in
 app-backup/.

  

 Try:

 eix app-backup/

  

 That gives you 44 to choose from.

  

 Alternatively, copy every file to a usb-disk and manually confirm they
 are all identical?

  

 --

 Joost



Well, I first used eix backup.  My thinking was this, if one searches
first for something with backup in it, they should notice a lot of
apps in the app-backup category even tho they might not know it existed
before that.  At that point, pot of gold with this:

eix app-backup/*

Thing is, he may not have eix installed.  :/ 

Either way works tho.  :-D 

Me, I just use rsync and call it a day. 

Dale

:-)  :-)


Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:14:43 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

  Thank you again. On a different subject.  Do you have a good pointer
  on how to backup a system.  
 
 Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a
 search engine and see what comes back?

And if you then need to ask a question on a different subject, please
start a new thread. It's still thread-jacking if the thread you hijack is
one you started.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I am Flatulus of Borg.  You will be asphixiated.


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Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 10/09/2014 10:03, Dale wrote:
 J. Roeleveld wrote:

  

 On Wednesday, September 10, 2014 02:47:26 AM Dale wrote:

  Alan McKinnon wrote:

   On 10/09/2014 07:32, Joseph wrote:

   Thank you again. On a different subject. Do you have a good
 pointer on

   how to backup a system.

  

   Did it even occur to you at all to type that exact question into a

   search engine and see what comes back?

  

   Come on dude, we aren't here to do ALL your thinking for you.

 

  Even easier,

 

  eix backup

  

 That only returns 18 packages and you're missing most of the ones in
 app-backup/.

  

 Try:

 eix app-backup/

  

 That gives you 44 to choose from.

  

 Alternatively, copy every file to a usb-disk and manually confirm they
 are all identical?

  

 --

 Joost

 
 
 Well, I first used eix backup.  My thinking was this, if one searches
 first for something with backup in it, they should notice a lot of
 apps in the app-backup category even tho they might not know it existed
 before that.  At that point, pot of gold with this:
 
 eix app-backup/*
 
 Thing is, he may not have eix installed.  :/ 



that's why we have emerge -s


:-)



 
 Either way works tho.  :-D 
 
 Me, I just use rsync and call it a day. 
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] BACKUPS

2014-09-10 Thread Kerin Millar

On 10/09/2014 06:32, Joseph wrote:

On 09/10/14 06:10, Kerin Millar wrote:


snip


Thank you again. On a different subject.  Do you have a good pointer on
how to backup a system.
I just had a HD crash so I selected a replacement SSD and I'm re
installing the software.
I had backup of /etc/ and /home but I've missed all other settings eg:
/boot/ kernel config and other files and are not in /etc directory like:
hylafax setting etc.

Is there a way to keep backup of all those configuration files that are
manually edited?


As suggested by Neil, please begin a new thread.

--Kerin




Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-10 Thread Grant
 No luck.  Weird.  It's working in xbmc so I can't be far off.  What
 could I be missing?


 Sorry I've been crazy busy. I hope tomorrow I'll have some time to power
 up the NUC and check some settings.

 I'll get the USE flags and my /etc/portage/package.use if I have one,
 the profile I'm using and perhaps some versions of software I have
 installed.


 It turns out xbmc and vlc support both vdpau and vaapi.  mplayer
 supports vdpau and also vaapi via libvdpau-va-gl (x11 overlay).  I
 haven't installed mplayer2 but it sounds like it supports vaapi.  Are
 all the smart people switching from mplayer to mplayer2?  For me: xbmc
 accelerates, vlc does not, mplayer claims it's accelerating via vdpau
 in the console output but all I get is a black window.  Have you tried
 vlc?


Just got mplayer accelerating.  I needed to upgrade from
libvdpau-va-gl-0.3.4 to libvdpau-va-gl-.  vlc is still a mystery.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-10 Thread Grant
 No luck.  Weird.  It's working in xbmc so I can't be far off.  What
 could I be missing?


 Sorry I've been crazy busy. I hope tomorrow I'll have some time to power
 up the NUC and check some settings.

 I'll get the USE flags and my /etc/portage/package.use if I have one,
 the profile I'm using and perhaps some versions of software I have
 installed.


 It turns out xbmc and vlc support both vdpau and vaapi.  mplayer
 supports vdpau and also vaapi via libvdpau-va-gl (x11 overlay).  I
 haven't installed mplayer2 but it sounds like it supports vaapi.  Are
 all the smart people switching from mplayer to mplayer2?  For me: xbmc
 accelerates, vlc does not, mplayer claims it's accelerating via vdpau
 in the console output but all I get is a black window.  Have you tried
 vlc?


 Just got mplayer accelerating.  I needed to upgrade from
 libvdpau-va-gl-0.3.4 to libvdpau-va-gl-.  vlc is still a mystery.


Daniel, no rush, but I'm still curious how you got mplayer2
accelerating.  I tried everything up to mplayer2- with -vo gl but
no accel.

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-10 Thread Daniel Frey
On 09/10/2014 11:28 AM, Grant wrote:
 
 Daniel, no rush, but I'm still curious how you got mplayer2
 accelerating.  I tried everything up to mplayer2- with -vo gl but
 no accel.
 

Hi Grant,

Now that I think about it, I think that maybe mplayer2 wasn't
accelerating. If it was, it was because opengl was built with
vaapi/vdpau support.

It's possible that the N2820 in the NUC is powerful enough to do 1080p
on the CPU without acceleration, and now that I think about it, i
believe CPU usage was 80-90% - but I am also certain that the N2820 is
an integrated CPU/GPU...

I have to run off again. Hopefully tomorrow or Friday for sure I can
look into it. Sorry for the delay... Work is hell right now :-(

Dan




[gentoo-user] clone XP-Virtual to a file

2014-09-10 Thread Joseph

How to close virtualbox machine (windows xp) to a file?
I need to transfer it to another box.

I made some notes but they are old so I'm not sure if they are applicable or 
there is an easier way.

===
1) Shut down the virtual machine you would like to copy
2) In File  Virtual Media Manager, select the virtual machine disk image you 
would like to copy, and press the Release button
3) In a terminal window, issue following command (see virtualbox user manual):

VBoxManage clonehd (complete-path)/directory/image1.vdi 
(complete_path)/directory/image2.vdi
VBoxManage clonehd /home/thelma/.VirtualBox/HardDisk/xp-clinic.vdi 
/home/thelma/xp-clinic.vdi

4) In File  Virtualdiskmanager, add the new disk image you've created in step 
3.
5) In the main virtualbox window, press the New button to create a new virtual 
machine, and link it to the new disk image you've created.

To re-attache the vdi:
Next we have to undo the Release we did before so that we can continue using our Virtual Machine. In VirtualBox main Window select the Virtual Machine (1) and press the 
Settings button (2). Go to Storage (3) IDE Controller (left window - empty); right click on IDE Controller and press the Add Hard Disk button (in the left window 
(4). Here select your initial .vdi file (5) and your Virtual Machine will be ok.



I've noticed there is a Clone menu.  Do I use it and just tar.gz entire 
folder to a new machine?

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] clone XP-Virtual to a file

2014-09-10 Thread Poison BL.
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 How to close virtualbox machine (windows xp) to a file?
 I need to transfer it to another box.

 I made some notes but they are old so I'm not sure if they are applicable or
 there is an easier way.

 ===
 1) Shut down the virtual machine you would like to copy
 2) In File  Virtual Media Manager, select the virtual machine disk image
 you would like to copy, and press the Release button
 3) In a terminal window, issue following command (see virtualbox user
 manual):

 VBoxManage clonehd (complete-path)/directory/image1.vdi
 (complete_path)/directory/image2.vdi
 VBoxManage clonehd /home/thelma/.VirtualBox/HardDisk/xp-clinic.vdi
 /home/thelma/xp-clinic.vdi

 4) In File  Virtualdiskmanager, add the new disk image you've created in
 step 3.
 5) In the main virtualbox window, press the New button to create a new
 virtual machine, and link it to the new disk image you've created.

 To re-attache the vdi:
 Next we have to undo the Release we did before so that we can continue using
 our Virtual Machine. In VirtualBox main Window select the Virtual Machine
 (1) and press the Settings button (2). Go to Storage (3) IDE Controller
 (left window - empty); right click on IDE Controller and press the Add
 Hard Disk button (in the left window (4). Here select your initial .vdi file
 (5) and your Virtual Machine will be ok.
 

 I've noticed there is a Clone menu.  Do I use it and just tar.gz entire
 folder to a new machine?

 --
 Joseph


File - Export Appliance
copy to the new system
File - Import Appliance
verify that settings carried over right

It should carry the configuration over fairly completely, though it's
been a long while since I last used it, and I've not tested it between
overly diverse host hardware.

-- 
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy



Re: [gentoo-user] clone XP-Virtual to a file

2014-09-10 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 11 September 2014 04:47:31 CEST, Poison BL. poiso...@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
 How to close virtualbox machine (windows xp) to a file?
 I need to transfer it to another box.

 I made some notes but they are old so I'm not sure if they are
applicable or
 there is an easier way.

 ===
 1) Shut down the virtual machine you would like to copy
 2) In File  Virtual Media Manager, select the virtual machine disk
image
 you would like to copy, and press the Release button
 3) In a terminal window, issue following command (see virtualbox user
 manual):

 VBoxManage clonehd (complete-path)/directory/image1.vdi
 (complete_path)/directory/image2.vdi
 VBoxManage clonehd /home/thelma/.VirtualBox/HardDisk/xp-clinic.vdi
 /home/thelma/xp-clinic.vdi

 4) In File  Virtualdiskmanager, add the new disk image you've
created in
 step 3.
 5) In the main virtualbox window, press the New button to create a
new
 virtual machine, and link it to the new disk image you've created.

 To re-attache the vdi:
 Next we have to undo the Release we did before so that we can
continue using
 our Virtual Machine. In VirtualBox main Window select the Virtual
Machine
 (1) and press the Settings button (2). Go to Storage (3) IDE
Controller
 (left window - empty); right click on IDE Controller and press
the Add
 Hard Disk button (in the left window (4). Here select your initial
.vdi file
 (5) and your Virtual Machine will be ok.
 

 I've noticed there is a Clone menu.  Do I use it and just tar.gz
entire
 folder to a new machine?

 --
 Joseph


File - Export Appliance
copy to the new system
File - Import Appliance
verify that settings carried over right

It should carry the configuration over fairly completely, though it's
been a long while since I last used it, and I've not tested it between
overly diverse host hardware.

This works. Done it myself with 20+ VMs when switching laptops beginning of 
this year.

I would advise against the steps Joseph has. Those are outdated and can easily 
lead to errors.

The Host hardware does not matter. As long as the target host has (at least) 
the same virtualisation support as the source host. If it doesn't,  you might 
not be able to start 64bit VMs.

If the VM has devices assigned to it from the Host. Ensure those get moved 
along or replaced with similar devices. 

I also have serious concerns over the continued use of Windows XP as this is 
ancient technology that has, finally, been dumped by its creator. But that is 
not relecant to the question.

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



Re: [gentoo-user] clone XP-Virtual to a file

2014-09-10 Thread Joseph

On 09/10/14 22:47, Poison BL. wrote:

[snip]


I've noticed there is a Clone menu.  Do I use it and just tar.gz entire
folder to a new machine?

--
Joseph



File - Export Appliance
copy to the new system
File - Import Appliance
verify that settings carried over right

It should carry the configuration over fairly completely, though it's
been a long while since I last used it, and I've not tested it between
overly diverse host hardware.

--
Poison [BLX]
Joshua M. Murphy


Yes, it worked perfectly; thank you!

--
Joseph