[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] can not compile / emerge

2014-09-11 Thread James
Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:






  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight- 
 brother.html?sid=1ba0b92db499262c6a74919d86c6af43

 I just extracted the files with tar... 


Hello Joseph,

You might find this document useful:

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Brother_networked_printer

hth,
James









Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] can not compile / emerge

2014-09-11 Thread Joseph

On 09/11/14 12:07, James wrote:

Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:







 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight-
brother.html?sid=1ba0b92db499262c6a74919d86c6af43



I just extracted the files with tar...



Hello Joseph,

You might find this document useful:

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Brother_networked_printer

hth,
James


The one on that link you posted is based on rpm so I've posted my own 
instruction here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight-brother.html?sid=1d304c64a64892ab675d23cfa09e55f1

--
Joseph



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] can not compile / emerge

2014-09-11 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 11 September 2014 14:28:16 CEST, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote:
On 09/11/14 12:07, James wrote:
Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:






  http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight-
 brother.html?sid=1ba0b92db499262c6a74919d86c6af43

 I just extracted the files with tar...


Hello Joseph,

You might find this document useful:

http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Brother_networked_printer

hth,
James

The one on that link you posted is based on rpm so I've posted my own
instruction here:
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight-brother.html?sid=1d304c64a64892ab675d23cfa09e55f1

Joseph,

Why not add your instructions to the wiki page?

--
Joost
-- 
Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.



[gentoo-user] Re: [SOLVED] can not compile / emerge

2014-09-11 Thread James
Joseph syscon780 at gmail.com writes:


  http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Brother_networked_printer

 The one on that link you posted is based on rpm so I've posted my own  
 instruction here: 

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-909052-highlight-brother.html?sid=1d304c64a64892ab675d23cfa09e55f1


Great. If you have the time, explore to integrate your information
into the wiki.gentoo.org. In fact you can start your own brother
wiki page on wiki.gentoo.org.


Also, just so you know, Gentoo folks routinely use rpm as as
a source for ebuilds. I can dig out some links, if you like
or better yet, others can post those links and relevant urls


hth,
James








[gentoo-user] Re: post build files

2014-09-11 Thread James
Alec Ten Harmsel alec at alectenharmsel.com writes:


 Lastly, if you throw this in a publicly-accessible git repo I'll try and
 help, even though I took a look at mesos and it seems like it'll be hard
 because they bundle libraries with it and have made a couple other
 (imnho) bad decisions.

I biggest obstacle for all of the Apache clustering sofwares I want
to try, is java and other codes seem to be central to their
offerings.

For example maven is becoming critical for many codes [1].
In fact we are loosing jruby because nobody has the requisite
skills? [2].


Hacking and slashing through ebuilds is not difficult. I just 
have inate tendencies to that cause me to believe the path
should be 'well worn with ample examples; but alas I do not
think that is the gentoo way, particular with how fast things
are moving on new codes and the entire linux echo_systems.


Why not champion maven and jruby so many can benefit?
Can maven be built from sources, as I see it is currently
in binary form maven-bin ?

Maven is an obstacle that I'm not certain I can go around
if I am to continue down the apache cluster pathway..

snip-dev
# Mask jruby 1.6.x for removal in 30 days.
# on ruby 1.8.  Many packages are no longer compatible with its
# syntax, and security support for ruby 1.8 has stopped. This
# incompatibility now has reached central packages like rubygems so we
# have decided to remove jruby 1.6 now.  jruby upstream has released
# the 1.7.x series some time ago, but unfortunately we only have a
# masked version that has too many issues to unmask. Please let us
# know if you know java and ruby and want to help out here:



hth,
James



[1] http://maven.apache.org/

[2]
http://moving-innovations.com/blog/2014/04/23/the-precarious-state-of-jruby-in-gentoo





[gentoo-user] Re: post build files

2014-09-11 Thread James
Rich Freeman rich0 at gentoo.org writes:


 If you literally want a list of everything that was installed by a
 Gentoo ebuild, then the simplest thing is to run qlist from
 app-portage/portage-utils.

wonderful idea. Despite having used qlist many times, it never dawned
on me for this purpose.


 If you're trying to learn how ebuilds work, devmanual.gentoo.org is
 the definitive resource.  If you have specific questions feel free to
 ask, but just about anything you want to know is there.  By all means
 try reading a few ebuilds to get a hang for things as well, but I'd
 start with simple ones (avoid trying to learn by looking at packages
 that use complex eclasses).  The simplest ebuilds tend to be for
 simple, standalone programs.

Yes, I've been all over this. It's onto much of the Apache clustering
codes that are not simple to configure in the ebuild.  Besides the raw 
packege codes, like mesos, spark, scala, cassandra, etc there are
a mulitude of fast moving codes written in Java and Python that
need to be tested. Java is not difficult, but voluminous. Every problem
somebody encouters, gets solved by some java bolt on code, rather
than fixing/extending the main (mesos) sourcecode.  As an old C hack,
it's a tough pill to swallow, but I'm pursing this as best I can.
I sure feel empathy for the java herd, but hey, now we are doing away
with herds?


 Keep in mind that ebuilds work by extending functions defined by PMS,
 so an ebuild can contain fairly little content and yet be fairly
 functional (the default functions are running for most of the build
 phases).  The idea is if all a package does is run configure ; make ;
 make install it often needs almost nothing in the ebuild to work.

Yea, I got this (mostlystill new skills...) but it is the fancy footwork
in the java and python worlds that keeps me doing more reading and research
than coding/compiling/testing. of the Clustering goodies.

That said, I'm a bit stressed about 'maven'. We only have maven.bin.
Much is dependant on it and java. For many reasons, java is not well
supported in Gentoo. I just hope, I do not have to leave the Gentoo
distro; because much of what I need (clustering) is java critical.

You think I can build a gentoo cluster based on these? [1] [2]
Does the Gentoo dev team operate a robust gentoo cluster for gentoo
development needs? Should they?

Clusters that perform best are built on mesos/spark. Spark is 
an in-memory computational enviroment for mesos clusters;
and it will change *everything* as systems become richly adormed
with ample, low cost ram  can consolidate into amazing clusters [3]  
RDD, Resilient Distributed Data is changing everying that is computationally
intensive.


I do appreciate all of the wonderful folks at gentoo (devs and users).
I have been using Gentoo since early 2004. But now, I need robust
clustering and from the open source research work I have performed,
Apache is the Only viable choice. Ubuntu has it. Debian Has it. RedHat
has it. CentOS has it, but, we cannot (willnot?) sustain Apache style
clustering at Gentoo because ? (dunno the reason; nothing seems plausible).

PS, I *HATE* oracle more than most, but for me that is not a valid
reason for piss_poor Java support. Google runs Java on top of embedded
linux (it's called Android) We even had Android on Gentoo,
it's call Gentroid [4]. If folks would just get over it (java_baggage),
we could have a robust Java platform on Gentoo; or am I missing something?

For my needs, I do not see path forward for Gentoo, without robust java
support. Hell, I'd even be willing to pay for a java support to develop
the java (sourcecode) based tools; but in the past that idea has been very
frowned up by the gentoo think tank. But, devs with their own agendas
can spend their time doing exact what they want (thing gentoo needs); I just
cannot pay somebody to do the same (with Java)?

As hard as I can, I'm working on this, but I'm no Java maverick
far from it.

(actually this is just to get it off my chest. I feel better now
no needs for anyone to reply, unless you are interested in working
on Apache-mesos/spark or java/maven). Please, all flames in a new
thread.




James

[1] http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Cluster

[2] http://wiki.stoney-cloud.org/wiki/Main_Page

[3] http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~pwendell/strataconf/api/core/spark/RDD.html

[4] https://code.google.com/p/gentroid/






[gentoo-user] Mesos Webcast Today 3p EST

2014-09-11 Thread James
Hello Gentoers,


If anyone is interested to learn more about Mesos, there
is a webcast in a few hours.



 https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/7957587123935365890




Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-11 Thread Grant
 Daniel, no rush, but I'm still curious how you got mplayer2
 accelerating.  I tried everything up to mplayer2- with -vo gl but
 no accel.


 Hi Grant,

 Now that I think about it, I think that maybe mplayer2 wasn't
 accelerating. If it was, it was because opengl was built with
 vaapi/vdpau support.

 It's possible that the N2820 in the NUC is powerful enough to do 1080p
 on the CPU without acceleration, and now that I think about it, i
 believe CPU usage was 80-90% - but I am also certain that the N2820 is
 an integrated CPU/GPU...

 I have to run off again. Hopefully tomorrow or Friday for sure I can
 look into it. Sorry for the delay... Work is hell right now :-(


When you get a chance, I'd be interested to know which opengl package
has vaapi/vdpau USE and also your output for:

# eselect opengl list

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: post build files

2014-09-11 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel

On 09/11/2014 12:20 PM, James wrote:
 Yes, I've been all over this. It's onto much of the Apache clustering
 codes that are not simple to configure in the ebuild. Besides the raw
 packege codes, like mesos, spark, scala, cassandra, etc there are a
 mulitude of fast moving codes written in Java and Python that need to
 be tested. Java is not difficult, but voluminous. Every problem
 somebody encouters, gets solved by some java bolt on code, rather
 than fixing/extending the main (mesos) sourcecode. As an old C hack,
 it's a tough pill to swallow, but I'm pursing this as best I can. I
 sure feel empathy for the java herd, but hey, now we are doing away
 with herds?
Part of the problem with a lot of open source Java projects is that they
*require* Oracle's Java build, and installing Oracle's JDK in Gentoo is
not a simple 'emerge package_name_here'.
 That said, I'm a bit stressed about 'maven'. We only have maven.bin.
 Much is dependant on it and java. For many reasons, java is not well
 supported in Gentoo. I just hope, I do not have to leave the Gentoo
 distro; because much of what I need (clustering) is java critical. You
 think I can build a gentoo cluster based on these?
I'm not a huge fan of Maven - it's a massive, complex morass. That said,
I can look into building it.
 Does the Gentoo dev team operate a robust gentoo cluster for gentoo
 development needs? Should they?
What would it do? Other than continuous integration, I can't see much
use (although I'm not a dev, so that's not saying much).
 Clusters that perform best are built on mesos/spark.
I can't remember the last time I saw Mesos/Spark on the TOP500 list...
but also, they're both young projects.
 But now, I need robust clustering and from the open source research
 work I have performed, Apache is the Only viable choice. Ubuntu has
 it. Debian Has it. RedHat has it. CentOS has it, but, we cannot
 (willnot?) sustain Apache style clustering at Gentoo because ? (dunno
 the reason; nothing seems plausible). 
From what I can tell, the reason is that it is not worth anyone's time
to do the massive amount of development and maintainence for something
that they won't benefit from.
 Hell, I'd even be willing to pay for a java support to develop the
 java (sourcecode) based tools; but in the past that idea has been very
 frowned up by the gentoo think tank.
If I wasn't in school I'd be all over this...

Anyways, I'll try and look at Maven. Not making any promises; I'm pretty
busy right now.

Alec



Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-09-11 Thread Grant
 No luck.  Weird.  It's working in xbmc so I can't be far off.  What
 could I be missing?


 Sorry I've been crazy busy. I hope tomorrow I'll have some time to power
 up the NUC and check some settings.

 I'll get the USE flags and my /etc/portage/package.use if I have one,
 the profile I'm using and perhaps some versions of software I have
 installed.


 It turns out xbmc and vlc support both vdpau and vaapi.  mplayer
 supports vdpau and also vaapi via libvdpau-va-gl (x11 overlay).  I
 haven't installed mplayer2 but it sounds like it supports vaapi.  Are
 all the smart people switching from mplayer to mplayer2?  For me: xbmc
 accelerates, vlc does not, mplayer claims it's accelerating via vdpau
 in the console output but all I get is a black window.  Have you tried
 vlc?


 Just got mplayer accelerating.  I needed to upgrade from
 libvdpau-va-gl-0.3.4 to libvdpau-va-gl-.  vlc is still a mystery.


I got vlc accelerating by upgrading from libva-intel-driver-1.3.0 to
1.3.2 and launching vlc like this:

$ vlc --avcodev-hw=vaapi

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: post build files

2014-09-11 Thread Alec Ten Harmsel

On 09/11/2014 03:08 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel wrote:
 Anyways, I'll try and look at Maven. Not making any promises; I'm
 pretty busy right now. Alec
Also, feel free to message me directly James. I don't want to spam the
list with what will probably be a lot of small bugs and (most likely)
flaming.

While I'm not a huge fan of it, Java was the first language I taught
myself. I'm pretty familiar with it.

Alec



[gentoo-user] copy hylafax faxes from one server to another

2014-09-11 Thread Joseph

I just install hylafaxplus on a new box and would like to copy old faxes from 
old server to a new one.

I just rsync directories from: /var/spool/fax:
docq 
doneq

recvq
sendq

I'm using YajHFC to display faxes and after copying the faxes to a new sever 
they are not showing up.
Does anybody know how to do it?

--
Joseph