[gentoo-user] sys-apps/man-db depends to app-text/po4a

2014-10-11 Thread hogren
Hello,

I want to file a bug and I juste ask you a confirmation.

I tried to upgrade my gentoo (#emerge -uD world).
Ok. At the end emerge says me that I have preserved builds.
So I tried a #emerge @preserved-rebuild.
Emerge try to compile sys-apps/man-db-2.6.6 and fails.
When I watched the build log, I saw that in the compilation period,
po4a is not found.

I make an #emerge app-text/po4a, I tried again #emerge
@preserved-rebuild. It's ok.

Is it correct if I file a bug about that ?

Thank you !

Hogren



Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/man-db depends to app-text/po4a

2014-10-11 Thread Stroller

On Sat, 11 October 2014, at 7:17 am, hogren hog...@iiiha.com wrote:

 … 
 Emerge try to compile sys-apps/man-db-2.6.6 and fails.
 When I watched the build log, I saw that in the compilation period,
 po4a is not found.
 
 I make an #emerge app-text/po4a, I tried again #emerge
 @preserved-rebuild. It's ok.
 
 Is it correct if I file a bug about that ?

Yes, absolutely.

Thank you for your service.

Stroller.




[gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
A recent world update wanted to install a lower version of
gentoo-source as a new slot.
[ebuild  NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.14.14:3.14.14
[3.14.16:3.14.16] USE=-build -deblob -experimental -symlink 0 kB

I can't say I've had that happen before.

I've noticed that the ebuild for my current version of gentoo-sources
is not in the portage tree any more. So my guess is that the only
gentoo-sources ebuild intended for x86 stable is
gentoo-sources-3.14.14:
grep ' x86' `pwd`/gentoo-sources-3.1[4-7]*
/usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/gentoo-sources-3.14.14.ebuild:KEYWORDS=alpha
amd64 arm ~arm64 hppa ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh sparc x86

The list's advice on the matter would be appreciated.



Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/10/2014 09:11, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 A recent world update wanted to install a lower version of
 gentoo-source as a new slot.
 [ebuild  NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.14.14:3.14.14
 [3.14.16:3.14.16] USE=-build -deblob -experimental -symlink 0 kB
 
 I can't say I've had that happen before.
 
 I've noticed that the ebuild for my current version of gentoo-sources
 is not in the portage tree any more. So my guess is that the only
 gentoo-sources ebuild intended for x86 stable is
 gentoo-sources-3.14.14:
 grep ' x86' `pwd`/gentoo-sources-3.1[4-7]*
 /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/gentoo-sources-3.14.14.ebuild:KEYWORDS=alpha
 amd64 arm ~arm64 hppa ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh sparc x86


That's an awfully complicated command to see what's in the tree.

Do you know about eix?

eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable version
is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that it's a new
slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:27 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/10/2014 09:11, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 A recent world update wanted to install a lower version of
 gentoo-source as a new slot.
 [ebuild  NS] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-3.14.14:3.14.14
 [3.14.16:3.14.16] USE=-build -deblob -experimental -symlink 0 kB

 I can't say I've had that happen before.

 I've noticed that the ebuild for my current version of gentoo-sources
 is not in the portage tree any more. So my guess is that the only
 gentoo-sources ebuild intended for x86 stable is
 gentoo-sources-3.14.14:
 grep ' x86' `pwd`/gentoo-sources-3.1[4-7]*
 /usr/portage/sys-kernel/gentoo-sources/gentoo-sources-3.14.14.ebuild:KEYWORDS=alpha
 amd64 arm ~arm64 hppa ia64 ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390 ~sh sparc x86


 That's an awfully complicated command to see what's in the tree.

 Do you know about eix?

 eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable version
 is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that it's a new
 slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental


 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com



Thanks for the reply.

I'll wait for the stable gentoo-sources that are a higher version than
what I have at the moment to become available in the portage tree.



Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:38:43 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

  eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable
  version is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that
  it's a new slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental

 I'll wait for the stable gentoo-sources that are a higher version than
 what I have at the moment to become available in the portage tree.

Just let portage merge the highest stable version. You can continue using
the one you already have, portage only installs the sources, not the
kernel.

However, you may want to investigate why that version has been removed,
there may be vulnerabilities or bugs fixed in a later point release and
you should keyword that version.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

I've got a mind like a... a... what's that thing called?


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Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 11/10/2014 09:53, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:38:43 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:
 
 eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable
 version is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that
 it's a new slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental
 
 I'll wait for the stable gentoo-sources that are a higher version than
 what I have at the moment to become available in the portage tree.
 
 Just let portage merge the highest stable version. You can continue using
 the one you already have, portage only installs the sources, not the
 kernel.
 
 However, you may want to investigate why that version has been removed,
 there may be vulnerabilities or bugs fixed in a later point release and
 you should keyword that version.
 
 


https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518600


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com




Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 11/10/2014 09:53, Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:38:43 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

 eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable
 version is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that
 it's a new slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental

 I'll wait for the stable gentoo-sources that are a higher version than
 what I have at the moment to become available in the portage tree.

 Just let portage merge the highest stable version. You can continue using
 the one you already have, portage only installs the sources, not the
 kernel.

 However, you may want to investigate why that version has been removed,
 there may be vulnerabilities or bugs fixed in a later point release and
 you should keyword that version.




 https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=518600


 --
 Alan McKinnon
 alan.mckin...@gmail.com



Thanks for the info.



Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Oct 2014 10:38:43 +0300, Alexander Kapshuk wrote:

  eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable
  version is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that
  it's a new slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental

 I'll wait for the stable gentoo-sources that are a higher version than
 what I have at the moment to become available in the portage tree.

 Just let portage merge the highest stable version. You can continue using
 the one you already have, portage only installs the sources, not the
 kernel.

 However, you may want to investigate why that version has been removed,
 there may be vulnerabilities or bugs fixed in a later point release and
 you should keyword that version.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 I've got a mind like a... a... what's that thing called?

Thanks for the info.



Re: [gentoo-user] has anyone tried KDE5?

2014-10-11 Thread Mick
On Thursday 09 Oct 2014 21:01:02 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 Am 09.10.2014 um 21:38 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
  On 09/10/2014 19:44, Francisco Ares wrote:
  2014-10-07 12:20 GMT-03:00 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
  
  mailto:michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
  On Tuesday 07 Oct 2014 15:48:33 Philip Webb wrote:
   141007 Pavel Volkov wrote:
On Sunday, October 5, 2014 9:10:50 PM MSK, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I haven't used konqueror as a browser in many many months,
I get along just fine with Firefox and Chromium.
I believe Konqueror is essentially unmaintained these days
or at least on life support. Make a fine file manager though
(kparts has always been one of KDE's very much better ideas)

I think there was a tendency to replace Konqueror with rekonq
in KDE-based distros.  Can somebody comment on how rekonq is
doing?
   
   I dropped Konqueror as an alternative browser recently
   after it refused to accept every URL as malformed.
   Rekonq is an adequate replacement + Firefox for regular use ;
   I also use Lynx when I want text copies of WWW dox.
   My window manager is Fluxbox.
  
  I still use Konqueror as file manager, ssh/ftp/webdav client and
  occasionally
  as an Internet browser.  However, I have set it up to use WebKit as
  its browser engine instead of KHTML.
  
  --
  Regards,
  Mick
  
  Hi,
  
  How did you manage to get WebKit instead of KHTML?  On my version, I can
  only see the last.
  
  Thanks, and Best Regards,
  Francisco
  
  I set this up so long ago I forget exactly how I did it. IIRC it's as
  simple as
  
  emerge kde-misc/kwebkitpart
  konqueror menu - View - View Mode
 
 last time I tried webkit it broke websites in interessting ways.

Yes, it is not a panacea.  Some websites cause Konqueror to crash.  It just 
crashes less often than when I use KHTML.  :-)

I thought I had USE=webkit enabled somewhere and that's what brought it in, 
but now I see that it isn't set:

[-  ] webkit
kde-base/kget: Enable KdeWebkit browser plugin using 
kde-misc/kwebkitpart
[-  ] (4/4.12) 4.12.5 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.13) 4.13.3 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.14) 4.14.0 [gentoo]
[-  ] (4/4.14) 4.14.1 [gentoo]

-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Headless question: Harvesting the results...software needed.

2014-10-11 Thread meino . cramer
meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de [14-09-30 16:08]:
 Hi,
 
 with lot of help of this forum (***TAHNKS!***) I now
 have a embedded device which is able to
 dis/connect itsself from/to the LAN, set the clock via ntp-client
 and is able to fire up a tool, which collects
 data from sensors and put those into
 a file ... even if the tool has no
 connection to a terminal.
 
 Next step will be to connect a GPS module
 (ordered) to the GPIO pins of that board
 (which is quite offtopic and I fear therefore
 my sole problem... ;).
 
 Suppose the GPS would already be attached
 to the board and works...
 
 Is there any free available software and data for
 strict offline useage (which does NOT calls
 to home), which is able to map GPS data to a street/land
 map?
 I need both: The maps themselves and the logic to read
 GPS coordinates and map movements and ways to those maps.
 
 Is something like that available for free or should
 I directly ask the NSA/CIA/FBI/...?
 
 Thank you very much in advance for any help!
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 
 
 

Hi all,

first of all I want to thank you all, who have participated in this
thread and offered their help and wisdom. :)

The result is: Now there is a cigarette sized metal case, which
includes a Beaglebone Black running Gentoo Linux, an Ultimate GPS
receiver chip on a breakout board both made by Adafruit Industries
(Lady Ada) and even the software to display position and track (if
any).

To summarize:
- Hardware: Beaglebone Black, Ultimate GPS, metal case for Beaglebone
  Black, uf.l to RMA adapter cable (which socket nicely fits into a
  hole of the metal case) and an external GPS antenna (adapter and
  antenna by Adafruit Industries).  Additionally a 4600mAh LiOn accu
  pack to power the whole thing.
- Software: Gpsd, Foxtrotgps, x11vnc, xvfb, ifplugd

When I boot the Beaglbone Black via accupack it starts gpsd and the
GPS receiver begins to sync with satelites in view. If done gpsd will
collect the data.  Since the output of gpsdpipe (comes with gpsd) is
json format, in the simplest case one could stream the data onto
disk/flash.

When I boot the Beaglebone at home, I plug in the LAN (which will be
recognized by ifplugs, which in turn reinitializes everything needed.

Now I fire xvfb and xvnc and start foxtrotgps.

On my PC I can easily can display the desktop of the Beaglebone
Black via tigervnc (vncviewer).

Two things need still to be investigated: How can I store GPSdata onto the
flash in a way, that no additional data is stored if no movement is
there. And I have to prevent, that a sector/block/organisation unit
of the flash is written more than once to prevent ware out of the
flash.

Secondly I have to figure out how to feed store data into foxtrotgps,
which normally directly connects to/with gpsd.

Foxtrottgps reads maps from OSM and store them on disk/flash and
reuses this.  So this kinda delayed offline browsing;)) :))

Thank you very much again! :)

Best regards and have a nice weekend!
mcc








Re: [gentoo-user] sys-apps/man-db depends to app-text/po4a

2014-10-11 Thread Hinnerk van Bruinehsen
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 07:37:14AM +0100, Stroller wrote:
 
 On Sat, 11 October 2014, at 7:17 am, hogren hog...@iiiha.com wrote:
 
  … 
  Emerge try to compile sys-apps/man-db-2.6.6 and fails.
  When I watched the build log, I saw that in the compilation period,
  po4a is not found.
  
  I make an #emerge app-text/po4a, I tried again #emerge
  @preserved-rebuild. It's ok.
  
  Is it correct if I file a bug about that ?
 
 Yes, absolutely.
 
 Thank you for your service.

Actually: I think no.

This is caused because you recently updated perl and there is some version
missmatch/dependency issue caused by it.
Run perl-cleaner --all (and emerge -v1 $(qlist -CI virtual/perl) if you run
into issues).
The missing dependency (app-text/po4a) will get pulled along the way (did so
a few hours ago).


WKR
Hinnerk




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Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/11/2014 12:27 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 
 That's an awfully complicated command to see what's in the tree.
 
 Do you know about eix?
 
 eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable version
 is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that it's a new
 slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental
 
 

There's also eshowkw from the app-portage/gentoolkit package, which he
may have installed already.

Dan



Re: [gentoo-user] world update wants to downgrade genoo-sources

2014-10-11 Thread Alexander Kapshuk
On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 6:16 PM, Daniel Frey djqf...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 10/11/2014 12:27 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 That's an awfully complicated command to see what's in the tree.

 Do you know about eix?

 eix gentoo-sources immediately shows you that the only stable version
 is 3.14.14 which is why portage is merging it. The fact that it's a new
 slot lower5 than something you had - that is incidental



 There's also eshowkw from the app-portage/gentoolkit package, which he
 may have installed already.

 Dan


Thanks for the tip. I was aware of eix, but didn't have it installed,
or used it until after Alan suggested it.

I do have app-portage/gentoolkit installed, but wasn't aware of nor
ever used eshowkw. Thanks for pointing it out. I'll look into it.

The grep command line I used my original email seemed to fit the bill
at the time given the statements I made above.



[gentoo-user] Python 3.4.1

2014-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
I've just installed  python-3.4.1  alongside  2.7.7  3.2.5-r6  3.3.5-r1 .
I've changed the lines in  make.conf  to

  USE_PYTHON=2.7 3.4
  PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_4
  PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7

'emerge -Np world' lists pkgs which mb updated, but none with 3.4.1 .
I have successfully remerged Vim with

  PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 (-python3_2) -python3_3 python3_4

Without any other info, I would remerge all affected pkgs to use 3.4.1
 unmerge the earler versions of Python.
However, (1) I don't know how to list pkgs which use the Python flag
 (2) I don't know which pkgs might not be safe with 3.4.1 (Portage ? ).

Can anyone explain or point me to the relevant docs ?

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[gentoo-user] Xvnc/vncviewer: Keyboard repeat does not work?!

2014-10-11 Thread meino . cramer
Hi,

to access my Beaglebone Black (embedded system) easily, here in the
list I got the hint (*THANKS*) to use xvfb/xvnc/vncviewer(tigervnc). 
Everythings works fine...except for the keyrepeatiton.

Regardless how heavily I hammer down the key...it does not work ;)

Since everything else works fine...I have no idea what the reason
for this problem...

How can I fix that?

Best regards,
mcc

PS:
Mails/threads from over six years ago report this problem also --
and that it was fixed.
Am I trapped in a time bubble? ;)







Re: [gentoo-user] i965 (Valley View) video acceleration

2014-10-11 Thread Grant
 When you get a chance, I'd be interested to know which opengl package
 has vaapi/vdpau USE and also your output for:

 # eselect opengl list

 - Grant


 Hi Grant,

 I haven't forgotten, just been really busy with work.

 Here's some info -


[snip]

Thank you Daniel, all is working now.

- Grant



[gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.4.1

2014-10-11 Thread James
Philip Webb purslow at ca.inter.net writes:


 I've just installed  python-3.4.1  alongside  2.7.7  3.2.5-r6  3.3.5-r1 .
 I've changed the lines in  make.conf  to

   USE_PYTHON=2.7 3.4
   PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_4
   PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7

I use 'eselect python list' to see what options you have.

Then I'd go to bugs.gentoo.org and poke around for any bug reports
on python-3.4.*

 
 'emerge -Np world' lists pkgs which mb updated, but none with 3.4.1 .
 I have successfully remerged Vim with
 
   PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 (-python3_2) -python3_3 python3_4
 
 Without any other info, I would remerge all affected pkgs to use 3.4.1
  unmerge the earler versions of Python.

Use a -p to see what it proposes to do first

 However, (1) I don't know how to list pkgs which use the Python flag
  (2) I don't know which pkgs might not be safe with 3.4.1 (Portage ? ).

I would not unmerge any version just yet. If a package absolutely needs
python-3.4, it will let you know when you use a -p option.

I'd also keep python 2.7 around a while longer, just to be safe.
Keeping several old stable versions of python around is a good
idea, imho.


 Can anyone explain or point me to the relevant docs ?

Best thing is to look for bug reports on 3.4.* with python.
It is stable so there should not be anything significant.

Note: without a working version of python, you system may become
hosed, so be cautious with python as it is system critical.


hth,

James









[gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

2014-10-11 Thread James
Hello,

I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?

Obviously I missed something, or is the portion of the handbook (amd64)
where you unpack the portage tarball, missing?

curiously,
James




[gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

2014-10-11 Thread James
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes:


 I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
 not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
 tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
 have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
 section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?

Well I see the emerge --sync takes care of installing a new portage.
It's been a while; but I remember downloading a portage tarball and
uppacking it?


oh well, we'll see.

No need to reply


James






Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

2014-10-11 Thread Daniel Frey
On 10/11/2014 01:37 PM, James wrote:
 James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes:
 
 
 I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
 not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
 tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
 have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
 section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?
 
 Well I see the emerge --sync takes care of installing a new portage.
 It's been a while; but I remember downloading a portage tarball and
 uppacking it?
 
 

Yes, the last couple of times I did a fresh install portage took care of
installing it. I don't remember when this change actually happened though.

From memory (a very sketchy memory, I might add, so check before doing
it) the command was:

$ tar xvjf portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /usr/portage


 oh well, we'll see.
 
 No need to reply
 

Meh, I noticed this a while ago but didn't think to mention it. The docs
were already updated then.

Dan




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 3.4.1

2014-10-11 Thread Philip Webb
141011 James wrote:
 Philip Webb purslow at ca.inter.net writes:
 I've just installed  python-3.4.1  alongside  2.7.7  3.2.5-r6  3.3.5-r1 .
 I've changed the lines in  make.conf  to
   USE_PYTHON=2.7 3.4
   PYTHON_TARGETS=python2_7 python3_4
   PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET=python2_7
 I use 'eselect python list' to see what options you have.

Google found :  http://www.odi.ch/weblog/posting.php?posting=674 ,
which suggests that, then 'eselect python set --python3 n',
where  n = 3  in my case ; I've done that.

 Then I'd poke around for any bug reports on python-3.4.*

That promises to be time-consuming, but thanks so far.

Anyone else have info or suggestions ?

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