Re: [gentoo-user] Manually updating gentoo-sources
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:53:36 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> Calculating dependencies... done! > >> [ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.16.3:5.16.3::gentoo > >> [5.6.7:5.6.7::gentoo, 5.10.46:5.10.46::gentoo, > >> 5.14.15:5.14.15::gentoo, 5.15.17:5.15.17::gentoo] USE="-build > >> -experimental -symlink" 120,568 KiB > >> > >> Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 120,568 KiB > >> > >> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] > >> > >> It still wants to upgrade. Could it be that something is pulling it > >> in as a dependency or something? Am I still doing something wrong? > >> This is a update to the above: > > It is probably being pulled in as a dependency of > > virtual/linux-sources, which is part of your profile. > So I need to go back to my old way, mask them all and unmask when I want > to upgrade? It's what I'm used to doing anyway. lol You're using ~amd64 sources, which means they update frequently. I found this annoying so I only use the stable sources, even on ~amd64 systems to keep updates to a reasonable level while ensuring I don't miss important updates. I added this to package.accept_keywords sys-kernel/gentoo-sources -~amd64 sys-kernel/linux-headers -~amd64 Having said that, it wants to install a new kernel this morning :-/ -- Neil Bothwick If you can smile when things go wrong, you have someone in mind to blame. pgpZ75ZWO9Zb2.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing or renaming old /boot/grub directory warning
On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 at 07:37, Dale wrote: > Should I reinstall grub after removing the old directory so it puts > things where it needs to be or what? Or does a new install have that > old directory too? While at it, is there something that can give me > better options in cases like this or do I need to stop renaming stuff? For what it's worth, this machine is new enough to only ever having had grub2 on it, and the directory in /boot is still named /boot/grub Regards, Arve
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to invoke non-selected versions of 'java'?
On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 at 00:48, Grant Edwards wrote:
> Yep. I've currently got '-bin' versions installed so here it's:
>
> $ find /opt/{icedtea*,openjdk*} -type f -executable -name 'java'
> /opt/icedtea-bin-3.16.0/jre/bin/java
> /opt/icedtea-bin-3.16.0/bin/java
> /opt/openjdk-bin-11.0.14_p9/bin/java
You should also have the /opt/openjdk-bin-11 symbolic link, so the bin
versions also have a "permanent" path to use in your commands. They're
not in your path since it is the folder names that are versioned, and
not the executables.
Regards,
Arve
[gentoo-user] Removing or renaming old /boot/grub directory warning
Howdy, I asked about this in a thread recently but can't find it now. Not sure why because it wasn't that long ago. In that thread, I was asking about deleting /boot/grub as it was used for the old grub, not the new and improved monster sometimes referred to as grub2. I think it was Neil that suggested just renaming the directory to grub.old. Thought that was a reasonable suggestion so that's what I did. Dang, Neil gives some seriously good advice plus he has those nifty signature lines. ;-) I had some kworker process that just wouldn't go away and was using a good bit of CPU time for some reason. I decided to reboot to reset that and guess what, grub puked all over my keyboard about a missing file. Anyone care to guess where that file lives? TLDR, skip to last paragraph. After the nasty puking job, I had a grub rescue prompt. No freaking clue what to do so out comes the cell phone and a bit of googling. Couldn't figure it out so I dug around and found a old Knoppix DVD and used that to boot with. I used the mv command to rename the directory after starting lvm, mounting stuff etc etc. I wanted to reinstall grub but had issues using chroot. Anyway, I rebooted and grub worked. Of course, I recently updated to a new kernel, it got about 2 seconds into the boot up and it puked on my keyboard with a panic. Reboot again and use previous kernel, anyone not understand why I keep backup kernels? ROFL Now here's the kicker. After getting booted up with the previous kernel, screen 2 on my video card wouldn't work. That's my TV screen. I ended up having to do a complete power off, what some call a hard reset. Rebooted witha working grub, a known good kernel, that can find all the files it needs, and my second screen comes up. Should I reinstall grub after removing the old directory so it puts things where it needs to be or what? Or does a new install have that old directory too? While at it, is there something that can give me better options in cases like this or do I need to stop renaming stuff? The reason for the post is the above questions and this. If you have a old grub directory in /boot, do not delete or rename that until you know grub has all the files it needs elsewhere. It will get upset and it won't do you any good either. Right now, I don't have to wash my hair, I can just polish my head. I pulled out a lot of hair dealing with this and I'd rather no one else had to. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Since my old system rescue CD didn't work, I think it's scratched, I'm off to make some rescue options, sysrescue and Knoppix too, just to be sure.
Re: [gentoo-user] Manually updating gentoo-sources
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 11:44:01 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> These are the packages that would be merged, in order: >> >> Calculating dependencies... done! >> [ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.16.3:5.16.3::gentoo >> [5.6.7:5.6.7::gentoo, 5.10.46:5.10.46::gentoo, 5.14.15:5.14.15::gentoo, >> 5.15.17:5.15.17::gentoo] USE="-build -experimental -symlink" 120,568 KiB >> >> Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 120,568 KiB >> >> Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] >> >> It still wants to upgrade. Could it be that something is pulling it in >> as a dependency or something? Am I still doing something wrong? This is >> a update to the above: > It is probably being pulled in as a dependency of virtual/linux-sources, > which is part of your profile. > > So I need to go back to my old way, mask them all and unmask when I want to upgrade? It's what I'm used to doing anyway. lol Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: How to invoke non-selected versions of 'java'?
On 2022-02-04, Arve Barsnes wrote:
> On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 22:49, Grant Edwards wrote:
>>
>> I've got two "slots" of java currently installed (8 and 11).
>> [...]
>> How does one manually invoke non-selected version(s) of java?
>> [...]
>
> I don't think there is any convenient out of the box link like for
> python or gcc,
That was what I concluded, but I was a bit surprised.
> but you could make equivalent links if you want. Otherwise you
> should use the paths in your commands. On this box I have:
>
> /usr/lib64/openjdk-8/bin/java
> /usr/lib64/openjdk-11/bin/java
Yep. I've currently got '-bin' versions installed so here it's:
$ find /opt/{icedtea*,openjdk*} -type f -executable -name 'java'
/opt/icedtea-bin-3.16.0/jre/bin/java
/opt/icedtea-bin-3.16.0/bin/java
/opt/openjdk-bin-11.0.14_p9/bin/java
Re: [gentoo-user] Manually updating gentoo-sources
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 11:44:01 -0600, Dale wrote: > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.16.3:5.16.3::gentoo > [5.6.7:5.6.7::gentoo, 5.10.46:5.10.46::gentoo, 5.14.15:5.14.15::gentoo, > 5.15.17:5.15.17::gentoo] USE="-build -experimental -symlink" 120,568 KiB > > Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 120,568 KiB > > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] > > It still wants to upgrade. Could it be that something is pulling it in > as a dependency or something? Am I still doing something wrong? This is > a update to the above: It is probably being pulled in as a dependency of virtual/linux-sources, which is part of your profile. -- Neil Bothwick Would a fly without wings be called a walk? pgpOPlzmdw8KM.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to invoke non-selected versions of 'java'?
On Fri, 4 Feb 2022 at 22:49, Grant Edwards wrote: > > I've got two "slots" of java currently installed (8 and 11). I see how > one uses "eselect java" to contol which one is invoked by /usr/bin/java. > > How does one manually invoke non-selected version(s) of java? > > For other slotted things like gcc and python, you can use pythonX.Y or > gcc-X.Y.Z to invoke the non-selected version. > > What's the equivalent for java? I don't think there is any convenient out of the box link like for python or gcc, but you could make equivalent links if you want. Otherwise you should use the paths in your commands. On this box I have: /usr/lib64/openjdk-8/bin/java /usr/lib64/openjdk-11/bin/java Regards, Arve
[gentoo-user] How to invoke non-selected versions of 'java'?
I've got two "slots" of java currently installed (8 and 11). I see how one uses "eselect java" to contol which one is invoked by /usr/bin/java. How does one manually invoke non-selected version(s) of java? For other slotted things like gcc and python, you can use pythonX.Y or gcc-X.Y.Z to invoke the non-selected version. What's the equivalent for java? -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Manually updating gentoo-sources
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:49:59 -0600, Dale wrote: >> I found a old email from Neil, hope you see this, and I think I followed >> it correctly but maybe I either missed something or things have changed >> since those instructions were posted. What I'm wanting to do, update >> gentoo-sources manually and remove them manually as well but running >> emerge -auDN world doesn't pull in newer versions and --depclean leaves >> the older versions alone as well. Following the email info, I ended up >> with this: >> >> root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets.conf >> [kernels] >> class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet >> world-candidate = False >> files = /usr/src > I do this. I renamed this to gentoo-sources. Like this: root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets.conf [gentoo-sources] class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet world-candidate = False files = /usr/src root@fireball / # > >> root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets/kernels >> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources >> root@fireball / # > But not this. Removed that. > >> and this I've tried with and without: >> >> >> root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world_sets >> kernels >> root@fireball / # > If you add the set to world_sets, it's the same as putting the kernel in > world. Removed that too. >> This is what I get tho: >> root@fireball / # emerge -auDN world >> Error during set creation: Redefinition of set 'kernels' (sections: >> 'usersets', 'kernels') > That's because there's already a set called kernels - emerge --list-sets > will show you all of them. Just rename your set. > > OK. Renamed as above and I get this now: root@fireball / # emerge -auDN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild NS ~] sys-kernel/gentoo-sources-5.16.3:5.16.3::gentoo [5.6.7:5.6.7::gentoo, 5.10.46:5.10.46::gentoo, 5.14.15:5.14.15::gentoo, 5.15.17:5.15.17::gentoo] USE="-build -experimental -symlink" 120,568 KiB Total: 1 package (1 in new slot), Size of downloads: 120,568 KiB Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] It still wants to upgrade. Could it be that something is pulling it in as a dependency or something? Am I still doing something wrong? This is a update to the above: root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets.conf [gentoo-sources] class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet world-candidate = False files = /usr/src root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets/kernels cat: /etc/portage/sets/kernels: No such file or directory root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world_sets root@fireball / # root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world | grep kernel sys-kernel/dracut #sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.10.46 #sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.14.15 #sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.15.17 #sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:5.6.7 sys-kernel/linux-firmware root@fireball / # Note the gentoo-sources is commented out, thought it might help. Thoughts? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 5.16.3 fails to boot
Have you read the recent threads here? Have you assured the appropriate
FB (framebuffer) config settings? If those are not set, the system may
actually boot, but you won't see any output. There was also a CPU
related setting for a specific AMD processor (I didn't pay much
attention, since it didn't affect me.)
On 2/4/22 12:00, Helmut Jarausch wrote:
Hi,
I have been built (and used successfully) nearly each kernel of the
gentoo-source 5.x.x.
I've copie the old config to the new kernel directory and did "make
oldconfig"
Suddenly with Kernel 5.16.{3,4,5} these kernels hang during boot.
Has anybody made a similar bad experience?
How can I find the culprit - hopefully without resorting to "git bisect"?
Many thanks for some hints,
Helmut.
P.S. I am running an AMD Threadripper with several NVME devices.
[gentoo-user] Kernel 5.16.3 fails to boot
Hi,
I have been built (and used successfully) nearly each kernel of the
gentoo-source 5.x.x.
I've copie the old config to the new kernel directory and did "make
oldconfig"
Suddenly with Kernel 5.16.{3,4,5} these kernels hang during boot.
Has anybody made a similar bad experience?
How can I find the culprit - hopefully without resorting to "git
bisect"?
Many thanks for some hints,
Helmut.
P.S. I am running an AMD Threadripper with several NVME devices.
Re: [gentoo-user] Manually updating gentoo-sources
On Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:49:59 -0600, Dale wrote: > I found a old email from Neil, hope you see this, and I think I followed > it correctly but maybe I either missed something or things have changed > since those instructions were posted. What I'm wanting to do, update > gentoo-sources manually and remove them manually as well but running > emerge -auDN world doesn't pull in newer versions and --depclean leaves > the older versions alone as well. Following the email info, I ended up > with this: > > root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets.conf > [kernels] > class = portage.sets.dbapi.OwnerSet > world-candidate = False > files = /usr/src I do this. > root@fireball / # cat /etc/portage/sets/kernels > sys-kernel/gentoo-sources > root@fireball / # But not this. > and this I've tried with and without: > > > root@fireball / # cat /var/lib/portage/world_sets > kernels > root@fireball / # If you add the set to world_sets, it's the same as putting the kernel in world. > This is what I get tho: > root@fireball / # emerge -auDN world > Error during set creation: Redefinition of set 'kernels' (sections: > 'usersets', 'kernels') That's because there's already a set called kernels - emerge --list-sets will show you all of them. Just rename your set. -- Neil Bothwick without C people would code in Basi, Pasal and Obol pgpBgoS46hBFg.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
