Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
On 17/02/2022 07:42, Dale wrote: I also commented out as much as I could in package.use, the things I'd tried previously. Now it has a clean path to upgrade. Is package.use a file or a directory? If it's a file, convert it to a directory (you can just put the existing package.use file in the new directory). Then make sure every time you add new use flags they're either in a file dedicated to a particular package, or they're in a dated file and refer to particular package versions. That dated file, when etc-update wants to update package.use, I just rename its temporary file into a proper dated file, rather than let it mess with a file it's chosen at random. That way, you can delete packages you no longer use, clear out old package/use combos, and generally keep things tidy. And when you're trying to fix something, that all goes in one file you can ditch when it's all gone wrong :-) Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
Hi Miles, This install is likely over 10 years old. I might add, I copied a lot of things over from my previous system which was a AMD 2500+ single core puter. In a way, some things could be dating back to around 2003 or 2004. I use eix-test-obsolete to clean up package.* files but there isn't much to clean up make.conf except to do it by hand. That said, I disabled threads globally. I also disabled a few other things and enabled in package.use for those that really need it. One thing that confuses this, not all flags of one name does just one thing. It may do one thing for one package and another thing for other package(s). It makes things interesting. I just got a nice clean emerge output while doing kde-plasma/plasma-meta. Once that is done, world is next but should be little change. I just hope old problems don't pop up again. I keep forgetting to try flaggie. I tend to edit by hand. Recently, I've started including notes on some entries. I tend to forget why something is there, sometimes even just a week later. :/ Thanks for the help. Dale :-) :-) Miles Malone wrote: > threads very rarely makes sense for anything, btw. > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 21:41, Miles Malone > wrote: >> Now for your own sanity you might consider stopping adding things >> globally constantly, and using app-portage/flaggie to sanely manage >> them per-package... Cause there's far more use flags that make sense >> per-package than make sense globally. I used to manage them all >> largely globally like ten years ago, but it's utterly unrealistic to >> do that today. >> >> On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 21:34, Dale wrote: >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:42:39 -0600, Dale wrote: > P. S. Is there a tool to make the USE line in make.conf in alphabetical > order or something? When I add things, I try to put them in order so it > is easier to find them. For some reason, they are out of order, a lot. > Something at some point messed up my organizing, badly. emerge --info shows the flags in alphabetical order, whatever their order in make.conf. It lso shows all flags, including those set b the profile, so you can see exactly what portage is using. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Foobar: A feeling of having made the same mistake before. >>> >>> Now that is cheating big time. Why didn't I think of that? Now they >>> back in order. I been cleaning up my USE line in make.conf. I think >>> some flags I added ages ago were only used by a few packages but are in >>> wide use now, and I don't always need them. So, I edit, run emerge >>> -auDN world to see what blows up. Edit again, run emerge and repeat. I >>> think I'm on about the 10th repeat now. Slowly cleaning things up. >>> >>> I love the sig on this one. How is it that thing knows which to pick? >>> ROFL >>> >>> Thanks for the cheat, I mean tip. Hit the nail on the head. >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >>> >
Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
threads very rarely makes sense for anything, btw. On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 21:41, Miles Malone wrote: > > Now for your own sanity you might consider stopping adding things > globally constantly, and using app-portage/flaggie to sanely manage > them per-package... Cause there's far more use flags that make sense > per-package than make sense globally. I used to manage them all > largely globally like ten years ago, but it's utterly unrealistic to > do that today. > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 21:34, Dale wrote: > > > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:42:39 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > > > >> P. S. Is there a tool to make the USE line in make.conf in alphabetical > > >> order or something? When I add things, I try to put them in order so it > > >> is easier to find them. For some reason, they are out of order, a lot. > > >> Something at some point messed up my organizing, badly. > > > emerge --info shows the flags in alphabetical order, whatever their order > > > in make.conf. It lso shows all flags, including those set b the profile, > > > so you can see exactly what portage is using. > > > > > > > > > -- Neil Bothwick Deja Foobar: A feeling of having made the same > > > mistake before. > > > > > > Now that is cheating big time. Why didn't I think of that? Now they > > back in order. I been cleaning up my USE line in make.conf. I think > > some flags I added ages ago were only used by a few packages but are in > > wide use now, and I don't always need them. So, I edit, run emerge > > -auDN world to see what blows up. Edit again, run emerge and repeat. I > > think I'm on about the 10th repeat now. Slowly cleaning things up. > > > > I love the sig on this one. How is it that thing knows which to pick? > > ROFL > > > > Thanks for the cheat, I mean tip. Hit the nail on the head. > > > > Dale > > > > :-) :-) > >
Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
Now for your own sanity you might consider stopping adding things globally constantly, and using app-portage/flaggie to sanely manage them per-package... Cause there's far more use flags that make sense per-package than make sense globally. I used to manage them all largely globally like ten years ago, but it's utterly unrealistic to do that today. On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 at 21:34, Dale wrote: > > Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:42:39 -0600, Dale wrote: > > > >> P. S. Is there a tool to make the USE line in make.conf in alphabetical > >> order or something? When I add things, I try to put them in order so it > >> is easier to find them. For some reason, they are out of order, a lot. > >> Something at some point messed up my organizing, badly. > > emerge --info shows the flags in alphabetical order, whatever their order > > in make.conf. It lso shows all flags, including those set b the profile, > > so you can see exactly what portage is using. > > > > > > -- Neil Bothwick Deja Foobar: A feeling of having made the same > > mistake before. > > > Now that is cheating big time. Why didn't I think of that? Now they > back in order. I been cleaning up my USE line in make.conf. I think > some flags I added ages ago were only used by a few packages but are in > wide use now, and I don't always need them. So, I edit, run emerge > -auDN world to see what blows up. Edit again, run emerge and repeat. I > think I'm on about the 10th repeat now. Slowly cleaning things up. > > I love the sig on this one. How is it that thing knows which to pick? > ROFL > > Thanks for the cheat, I mean tip. Hit the nail on the head. > > Dale > > :-) :-) >
Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:42:39 -0600, Dale wrote: > >> P. S. Is there a tool to make the USE line in make.conf in alphabetical >> order or something? When I add things, I try to put them in order so it >> is easier to find them. For some reason, they are out of order, a lot. >> Something at some point messed up my organizing, badly. > emerge --info shows the flags in alphabetical order, whatever their order > in make.conf. It lso shows all flags, including those set b the profile, > so you can see exactly what portage is using. > > > -- Neil Bothwick Deja Foobar: A feeling of having made the same > mistake before. Now that is cheating big time. Why didn't I think of that? Now they back in order. I been cleaning up my USE line in make.conf. I think some flags I added ages ago were only used by a few packages but are in wide use now, and I don't always need them. So, I edit, run emerge -auDN world to see what blows up. Edit again, run emerge and repeat. I think I'm on about the 10th repeat now. Slowly cleaning things up. I love the sig on this one. How is it that thing knows which to pick? ROFL Thanks for the cheat, I mean tip. Hit the nail on the head. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Kicad and complications from hdf5 and vtk USE flags. Not package specific tho.
On Thu, 17 Feb 2022 01:42:39 -0600, Dale wrote: > P. S. Is there a tool to make the USE line in make.conf in alphabetical > order or something? When I add things, I try to put them in order so it > is easier to find them. For some reason, they are out of order, a lot. > Something at some point messed up my organizing, badly. emerge --info shows the flags in alphabetical order, whatever their order in make.conf. It lso shows all flags, including those set b the profile, so you can see exactly what portage is using. -- Neil Bothwick Deja Foobar: A feeling of having made the same mistake before. pgpd6qxSi84xk.pgp Description: OpenPGP digital signature
