Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

[Dale]

Dale wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if
> nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price
> of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My
> first task, a case.  At this point, I may build a new system in the new
> case, or, I might build the new system in my current case.  It depends
> on which case I buy.  A cube shape wouldn't work for my main system.  It
> would take up to much space, it would however make a great NAS box.  My
> current case is a Cooler Master HAF-932 with those huge 200mm fans.  It
> has a top fan and that thing removes a lot of warm air.  A top fan
> really improves heat removal.  After all, heat naturally rises.  So any
> case that has a top fan gets extra points with me. 
>
> <<>>
>
> So, anyone think they know of a case that might beat those, especially
> the Define 7, and still have a price that is reasonable?  I also look at
> cooling fans.  I really like how cool my current case stays.  Also, I'm
> in the USA so needs to be available here.  I mostly use Ebay but
> sometimes use Amazon.  I've also used Newegg, Tigerdirect and a couple
> other sites as well.  If you live outside the USA, brand and model will
> do and I can look it up to see if it is available here or not. 
> <<>>
> Dale
>
> :-)  :-) 


A little update.  I got the Fractal Design Define 7 XL in earlier
today.  It is huge.  Size wise, it is about like my Cooler Master
HAF-932.  It's just more boxy where the Cooler Master has some angled
edges.  Anyway, it is very different than any case I've ever seen on the
inside.  All the panels has these little ball things that snap them in
and it feels like there may be a magnet in places but could just be the
ball things.  Hard to tell.  I think it will hold a lot of drives
eventually.  It can be made into a super nice NAS box tho.  I mean super
nice. 

The one thing I don't like.  Reading the description, it makes it sound
like it comes with all the cages needed for all hard drives to be
mounted.  It does not come with those.  They are extra and don't always
come in a set.  One part can be the cage part of it.  Another part can
be the little tray that the drive actually mounts on and slides into the
cage.  The cage part is about $20.  Both pieces are about $35 bought
together.  I'm looking on ebay at the moment.  I may can get a better
deal from Fractal tho.  Still, be prepared for not getting it really
complete if you plan to install lots of drives right away. 

If you don't like top mounted fans, that is a option.  It has a solid
panel for the top.  Me, I like top mounted fans.  Heat rises, why fight
it.  For that, it comes with a really nice mesh thing for the top that
looks OK.  I haven't put it on yet tho.  Given the number of fans, I may
try it without out the top fans.  Just to see.  I do kinda wish it had a
side fan but the side is all glass. 

It is pricey.  Given I still have to buy the cage kits, about 4 or 5 I
think, that drives the cost up even more.  Still, it is a nice case.  I
just wish it came with a complete set of drive cages. 

There are quite a few pics and videos of the thing already so I'm not
going to pollute the mailing list with those.  If someone wants a pic of
something, I could send it off list.  Honestly tho, there are a lot
already around to search for and find. 

Oh, it is heavy.  Packed up it weighs in at 42 lbs.  The box might weigh
a few pounds.  I'd guess, about 38 maybe 39 lbs. 

Since my water heater decided to die, that took my puter money.  Gotta
build up again to buy mobo, CPU and memory.  Maybe prices will drop a
little.  :/ 

On video cards.  I bought a 4 pack of PCIe version 2 cards.  I'm pretty
sure my new mobo will be PCIe V3.  I think I got that right. Will that
slower card work in there?  If so, will it slow anything else down?  Or
do I need to get a matched set? 

Thanks to all.  This may take a little longer than planned after the
water heater failure.  Dang near $600. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

Yep, If I use another sound card everything is fine.
 
 
From: Lee  
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 5:23 PM
To: gentoo-user 
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
And have you checked that nothing is muted in alsamixer? 
Lee 
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 1:57 PM John Covici mailto:cov...@ccs.covici.com> > wrote:
Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
 
 
From: Lee mailto:ny6...@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
To: gentoo-user mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> >
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
Lee 
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman mailto:t...@bonedaddy.net> > wrote:

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Orlitzky mailto:m...@gentoo.org> >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org  
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
>> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
>> after my world update.
> The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> they're enabled?
>
> Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a 
> difference, but I suspect alsa.


FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.

Todd

>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Lee]

And have you checked that nothing is muted in alsamixer?

Lee 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 1:57 PM John Covici  wrote:

> Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lee 
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
> *To:* gentoo-user 
> *Subject:* Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
>
>
> OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
>
> Lee 
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman  wrote:
>
>
> On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Orlitzky 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
> >
> > On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> >> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> >> after my world update.
> > The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> > codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> > they're enabled?
> >
> > Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a
> difference, but I suspect alsa.
>
>
> FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.
>
> I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.
>
> It was an Intel HDA.
>
> Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.
>
> I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec
> enabled and everything else I checked.
>
> Todd
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
 
 
From: Lee  
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
To: gentoo-user 
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
Lee 
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman mailto:t...@bonedaddy.net> > wrote:

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Orlitzky mailto:m...@gentoo.org> >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org  
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
>> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
>> after my world update.
> The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> they're enabled?
>
> Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a 
> difference, but I suspect alsa.


FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.

Todd

>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Lee]

OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?

Lee 

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman  wrote:

>
> On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Michael Orlitzky 
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
> >
> > On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> >> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> >> after my world update.
> > The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> > codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> > they're enabled?
> >
> > Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a
> difference, but I suspect alsa.
>
>
> FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.
>
> I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.
>
> It was an Intel HDA.
>
> Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.
>
> I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec
> enabled and everything else I checked.
>
> Todd
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Todd Goodman]

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:


-Original Message-
From: Michael Orlitzky 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:

Hi all.

I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
after my world update.

The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
they're enabled?

Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a 
difference, but I suspect alsa.



FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.


Todd

Re: [gentoo-user] tmpfs filling up with nothing

[Neil Bothwick]

On Wed, 8 Nov 2023 16:17:19 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 4:10 PM Neil Bothwick  wrote:
> 
> > I have PORTAGE_TMPDIR on /tmp, which is a 24GB tmpfs. Last night, an
> > update failed with an out of space error. df showed only 440MB free
> > but du and ndcu both showed well under 1GB in use (including hidden
> > files). this has happened on the odd occasion in the past and the
> > only solution appears to be to reboot. Of course, that means I cannot
> > provide any more information until it happens again.
> 
> Yeah had this a few times. Always turns out to be deleted files that
> something still has a handle on
> 
> Run this:
> # lsof /tmp | grep deleted
> sddm-help 324615 root   13u   REG   0,32   96  184 /tmp/#184
> (deleted)

That was it. It happened again today, it was my duplicity backup script
filling /tmp. Killing duplicity released the space.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Sometimes too much to drink is not enough.


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