Re: [gentoo-user] Remotely working on Gentoo systems

2010-06-11 Thread AG

Il 11/06/2010 11:00, SpaceCake ha scritto:
You may give a chance to this. I'm not using every day, but it is a 
very promising remote access solution. I think this is based on VNC as 
well


[I] net-misc/nx
 Available versions:  3.3.0-r1 ~3.3.0-r4 ~3.3.0-r5 3.4.0 
[M]~3.4.0-r1 {rdesktop vnc}

 Installed versions:  3.4.0(17.29.52 2010-05-12)
 Homepage: http://www.nomachine.com/developers.php
 Description: NX compression technology core libraries


NX is very simple to install
free for few simultaneous connections
efficient in low bandwidth situations
scalable to enterprise level
secured by https
available clients for almost every platform

andrea



[gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in

2009-06-14 Thread AG

Hi all

Thanks for the responses to my earlier query regarding co-location of 
Debian and Gentoo on the same HDD.


I still have a few questions regarding an installation before I take the 
plunge:


(1)  Looking through the background docs, it occurs to me that if I 
wanted to install Gentoo on my system, I would need access to a second 
machine that is running all of the on-line docs that guide one through 
the installation process.  Is this correct?  If not, how does one refer 
to the (seemingly quite comprehensive) guidelines whilst in the middle 
of an installation?


(2)  When Gentoo installs its libraries, does this duplicate the 
libraries already on my machine?  For instance - if I have OOo and KDE 
and Xfce4 loaded as part of my Debian Squeeze system, will Gentoo also 
install its own version of OOo, KDE and Xfce4 alongside the Deb files?  
I was thinking that this would have a number of implications in terms of 
space and (potentially) in how the drive is partitioned for the Gentoo 
installation ... unless I'm missing the point?


(3)  What differences would I likely experience between running my 
Debian installation and the Gentoo installation?  After all, up to a 
certain point GNU/Linux is GNU/Linux, and if I configured all the bells 
and whistles the same way as I have currently got them set up (i.e. 
preferred WM, desktop settings, applications, email and Net preferences, 
etc.), I'm not sure there would be any ostensible distinction between 
the two.  Hence, my question refers really to the more subtle 
differences between the two systems which one only picks up on after a 
while of using it.  For example, the last time I used Mandriva (when it 
was still called Mandrake), it was chunky and locked down, a FOSS 
version of Windows really, but the same applications were in use as were 
on my ol' trusty workhorse Slackware 8.1 through 10.1.  It was just in 
the latter that nothing would happen in Slack without my having been 
involved directly or indirectly in making it happen.  I appreciate that 
many distros tend to not have the bare bones approach that Slack does, 
but this is really just to try to illustrate what I am getting at: the 
subtleties experienced by a user of the system.


Any installation commitment will have to wait for a couple of weeks yet 
though: I'm in the process of completing my MSc thesis and need to keep 
a stable environment for the time being, so will look at taking this on 
in a few weeks.  This is thus background research - a bit of a 
reconnaissance mission, so to speak.  Any thoughts/ shared experiences 
would be welcome ... unless there is another, more appropriate forum for 
these kinds of experiences to be shared/ discussed.


Many thanks all.

Best wishes

AG



Re: [gentoo-user] Basic queries regarding installation from an outsider looking in

2009-06-14 Thread AG

Alan McKinnon wrote:

On Sunday 14 June 2009 13:02:50 AG wrote:
  

Hi all

Thanks for the responses to my earlier query regarding co-location of
Debian and Gentoo on the same HDD.

I still have a few questions regarding an installation before I take the
plunge:

(1)  Looking through the background docs, it occurs to me that if I
wanted to install Gentoo on my system, I would need access to a second
machine that is running all of the on-line docs that guide one through
the installation process.  Is this correct?  If not, how does one refer
to the (seemingly quite comprehensive) guidelines whilst in the middle
of an installation?



With links or link2 or lynx - it's on the stage 3.

Get network up and running, view docs in text mode

  
It looks like an installation in a chroot space on my current machine 
will be the way I'll go on this one.  If I can find the parts, I might 
even go so far as patching together an older box and dedicating it to 
the great take-on Gentoo project!  In which case, this would be an 
interesting route to pursue. But, for now, I'm likely to go the chroot way.

(2)  When Gentoo installs its libraries, does this duplicate the
libraries already on my machine?  For instance - if I have OOo and KDE
and Xfce4 loaded as part of my Debian Squeeze system, will Gentoo also
install its own version of OOo, KDE and Xfce4 alongside the Deb files?
I was thinking that this would have a number of implications in terms of
space and (potentially) in how the drive is partitioned for the Gentoo
installation ... unless I'm missing the point?



Yes. You have two complete operating systems, and they share very little, if 
anything. Don't try and be tempted to share binaries - that way does madness 
lie.


  
Thanks for the heads' up!  I'm beginning to get a clearer picture of how 
this would actually work now. 


(3)  What differences would I likely experience between running my
Debian installation and the Gentoo installation?



That's not a question that anyone except you can answer - it's like asking me 
what different experience will you have between your ex-wife and current 
girlfriend. I have no idea, nor any way to find out.


  
Interesting analogy, but your point is taken.  It was a bit of an unfair 
question really. 
They will be different, that much is true. Gentoo will work the way you set it 
up, I can't even warn you about sudo instead of su a la Ubuntu as Gentoo let's 
you do it either way. If you use Gnome, you will get Gnome's default theme (a 
blue one?) instead of say Ubuntu's Human theme. Changing that is a simple 
emerge and a few mouse clicks.
  
I don't know *buntu.  I'm on Squeeze (testing) and am having a good time 
with it.  After Slackware's rock-climbing experience of system 
maintenance, I feel quite spoilt having a tool like apt at my 
fingertips.  Debian does have some interesting policy implementations 
with renaming Firefox, etc., but these are minor and aside from my 
inclination to call apps by their given name there is no inconvenience. 
What you will do is spend an insane amount of time trying to figure out what a 
certain USE flag actually does an if you want it. Debian doesn't give you that 
choice.


  

Is this an example of that infinite adaptability of Gentoo as a metadistro?

Thanks.



[gentoo-user] Considering launching into Gentoo

2009-06-13 Thread AG

Hello list

I am currently running Debian Squeeze and am considering the feasibility 
of switching to Gentoo due to several issues I am experiencing with a 
new machine with a SATA HDD and a TSSTcorp CDDVDW TS-H653Z which refuses 
to play audio CDs and pre-recorded DVDs.


In any event, because I have loads of data on my /home partition, I'm 
curious about a few things, primarily what are the implications of 
dual-booting with Gentoo as my second OS, so that I can experience 
Gentoo without losing my data, etc.


How compatible are Gentoo and Debian in terms of using a shared /home 
directory - I am concerned about uid for the directory for instance 
which, if I changed it for Gentoo, may not work for Debian and vice versa.


Any thoughts/ suggestions?

Many thanks

AG



Re: [gentoo-user] local caching DNS?

2008-04-09 Thread AG

Ralf Stephan ha scritto:

Hello,

I'm fed up with waiting for ever the same name requests from my
browser (and open servers don't cut it either): which DNS cache
or caching DNS for simple local installation would you recommend?

Regards,
ralf
  

what about dnscache of djbdns tools?
took 2 minutes to setup via dnscache-setup script.

andrea


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