Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 3 stability
Jason, That's totally weird. Couple things that could cause this -- try disabling any composting window managers you may have running to see if that makes a difference. Also, is your computer stressed out (100% cpu usage) when you view the page? I've noticed that, among other things, GUIs in general tend to crap out (lots of repeated/trailing graphics) when the CPU gets pegged -- could be caused by Flash, or alpha transparencies in CSS, Java, or anything really... You may want to submit that screen shot as a bug to http://bugzilla.mozilla.org and see if they can recommend anything. Interesting screen shot though! - Brian On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Jason Messerschmitt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Justin Findlay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On AD 2008 July 02 Wednesday 02:20:30 PM -0400, doki_pen wrote: +2 on firefox3. Faster, doesn't slow down after long use. I really see the difference with javascript. The engine is much faster. Just try a js heavy page(like google apps). I haven't had any crashes. Only complaint is that flash blocker(or maybe flash itself) doesn't always work. I have to reload a couple of times to get youtube to work. Also, some plugins haven't been ported yet. I compiled it, and here are my use flags: I've been using FF3 for about 2 months, and although many things have improved during the beta phase it is generally about as memory and CPU heavy as FF2. The only real improvement I've observed as far as performance is concerned is javascript. I wish there were a light version available. I've tried galeon and epiphany, but both lacked features that I really like in FF and now that there is a great amount of extensions available it is harder to justify using another browser. Maybe it's time to switch back to konqueror. Justin -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list I've noticed an odd visual glitch with blogspot pages- it superimposes my desktop on some pages. It's a bit hard to explain so here's a pic. As far as I know it's only this page, but might be good fodder for some of you troubleshooters out there.
Re: [gentoo-user] speakers have no sound in Gentoo, but work in Ubuntu
Almost all snd-hda-intel sound cards need quirks added to /etc/modules.d/alsa Under the auto-generated configuration add: options snd-hda-intel model=dell-3stack Once that is done, save the file and run: update-modules Once that has completed (you may need to update-modules --force if it complains). Simply reboot the computer or restart the alsasound service. Note, some programs/applets using ALSA may crash if you unload/reload the sound card. - Brian On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 5:49 AM, Chuanwen Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, my laptop(Dell1400)'s speakers never work in Gentoo(headphones can work). But server days ago, I installed Ubuntu and I found that the speakers work(headphones also work)! I thought the alsa-driver could not drive my sound card properly before, and now, I think there must be some way since Ubuntu can work. # lspci | grep Audio 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) / In Gentoo ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16rc2 (Thu Jan 31 16:40:16 2008 UTC). / In Ubuntu ***/ $ cat /proc/asound/version Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16. Compiled on Apr 21 2008 for kernel 2.6.24-16-generic (SMP). / In Gentoo ***/ # uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.25-tuxonice-r5 #1 SMP Mon Jun 30 15:13:46 CST 2008 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T5470 @ 1.60GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux / In Ubuntu ***/ $ uname -a Linux wcw-laptop 2.6.24-16-generic #1 SMP Thu Apr 10 12:47:45 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux / In Gentoo ***/ # lsmod | grep snd Module Size Used by snd_seq_oss28992 0 snd_seq_device 6160 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq_midi_event 6912 1 snd_seq_oss snd_seq47968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event snd_pcm_oss37600 0 snd_mixer_oss 14592 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_hda_intel 405080 2 snd_pcm70984 2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel snd_timer 19792 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm snd_page_alloc 8144 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 7816 1 snd_hda_intel snd50632 13 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_device,snd_seq,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_hwdep soundcore 6688 1 snd / In Ubuntu ***/ $ lsmod | grep snd snd_hda_intel 440408 3 snd_pcm_oss47648 0 snd_mixer_oss 20224 1 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm92168 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss snd_page_alloc 13200 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm snd_hwdep 12552 1 snd_hda_intel snd_seq_dummy 5764 0 snd_seq_oss38912 0 snd_seq_midi 10688 0 snd_rawmidi29856 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 10112 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi snd_seq63232 6 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event snd_timer 27912 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 10644 5 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd70856 17 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 10400 1 snd / In Gentoo ***/ # amixer Simple mixer control 'Master',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'PCM',0 Capabilities: pvolume Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 255 Mono: Front Left: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Front Right: Playback 255 [100%] [0.00dB] Simple mixer control 'Front',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Front Right: Playback 119 [94%] [-6.00dB] [on] Simple mixer control 'Surround',0 Capabilities: pvolume pswitch Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Front Left: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Front Right: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Center',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'LFE',0 Capabilities: pvolume pvolume-joined pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Limits: Playback 0 - 127 Mono: Playback 127 [100%] [0.00dB] [off] Simple mixer control 'Mic as Output',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0 Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined Playback channels: Mono Mono: Playback [off] Simple mixer control 'Capture',0
Re: [gentoo-user] vlc wants to slot ffmpeg?
Stroller, This doesn't mean that ffmpeg is slotted. It means that the version of VLC you're trying to merge depends on an OLDER version of ffmpeg. VLC has some major issues with later versions of ffmpeg that are being handled rather poorly upstream. So unfortunately, if you want to use a stable VLC (0.8.x) you have to use a rather old ffmpeg. Nothing can be done to correct this. If you want a newer ffmpeg, try moving to a masked version of VLC or find a 0.9.x version in an overlay. Any attempt at making VLC 0.8.x work with newer versions of ffmpeg will result in video playback with audio only (no video). - Brian On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:39 AM, Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi there, With an `emerge -pv world` today I've noticed an anomaly with vlv ffmpeg. It initially came up with a portage message which reported AFAIR a package would be slotted for the first time. I uninstalled vlc just for the moment, and upgraded ffmpeg to the latest version. Still I see this problem: 901 ~ $ emerge -pv ffmpeg These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20080326 USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx mp3 network theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (-altivec) -amr -bindist -debug -hardcoded-tables -ieee1394 -imlib -ipv6 -sdl -test -threads 0 kB Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 kB 901 ~ $ emerge -pv vlc These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild UD] media-video/ffmpeg-0.4.9_p20070616 [0.4.9_p20080326] USE=a52 aac doc encode mmx network ogg%* theora truetype vorbis x264 xvid zlib -X (-altivec) -amr -debug -ieee1394 -imlib -oss% -sdl -test -threads -v4l% (-bindist%) (-hardcoded-tables%) (-ipv6%) (-mp3%*) 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/vlc-0.8.6g USE=a52 dvd flac live mp3 mpeg musepack ncurses ogg png samba stream svga theora truetype vlm vorbis win32codecs x264 xml -3dfx -X -aalib -alsa (-altivec) -arts -avahi -bidi -cdda -cddb -corba -daap -dc1394 -debug -directfb -dts -dvb -esd -fbcon -ggi -gnome -gnutls -hal -httpd -jack -libcaca -libnotify -lirc -matroska -modplug -nsplugin -opengl -optimisememory -oss -rtsp -sdl -sdl-image -seamonkey -shout -skins -speex -svg -upnp -v4l -vcd -wxwindows -xinerama -xosd -xulrunner -xv 11,417 kB Total: 2 packages (1 downgrade, 1 new), Size of downloads: 11,417 kB 902 ~ $ I would (obviously) prefer not to have two different versions of ffmpeg on my system, and you'll see that the version pulled in by vlc has the mp3 USE flag forcibly disabled. I don't know that I've ever actually used vlc, so this is probably unimportant, but I'd like to have it installed just in case I want to stream video around the house in the future. Does anyone know if there's a workaround for this? Cheers, Stroller. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone else's Gentoo unruly lately?
Grant, I've had a lot of problems lately upgrading ~arch and masked packages. This is expected (obviously) but 99% of the time I am able to fix them myself without going through support resources. If you're using any that are ~arch and in packages.mask perhaps that is why you're having problems too! - Brian On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:41 PM, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lately it seems like a new problem pops up every day and every time I try to do something new it doesn't work. Anybody else experiencing that lately? - Grant -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Why does gnome-python-desktop have so many dependencies?
Well, the README in the source of this package says: This package contains a few python modules that used to live in gnome-python-extras: - gnomeapplet - gnomeprint, gnomeprint.ui - gtksourceview - wnck - totem.plparser - gtop - nautilusburn - mediaprofiles - metacity Sounds like you might wanna ping upstream (not Gentoo) if you feel this package should be changed. - Brian On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 8:24 AM, Alastair Irving [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm trying to run a program which requires the wnck python module, which I believe is part of the gnome-python-desktop package. I like to keep my gnome desktop minimal, but this package wants to install the following: $ emerge -vp gnome-python-desktop These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies ... done! [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-vorbis-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-good-0.10.6 USE=-debug 0 kB [ebuild N] x11-libs/gtksourceview-1.8.5-r1 USE=-debug -doc 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libgtop-2.20.2 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] dev-util/cmake-2.4.6-r1 USE=emacs -vim-syntax 2,544 kB [ebuild N] sys-libs/libcap-1.10-r11 USE=python 39 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-mount-0.6 USE=gnome -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-pango-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/gst-plugins-ugly-0.10.6 USE=-debug 756 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-flac-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdcss-1.2.9-r1 USE=-doc 277 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-gnomevfs-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-ogg-0.10.14 0 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/a52dec-0.7.4-r5 USE=-djbfft -oss 236 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libmpeg2-0.4.1 USE=X -sdl 483 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/cdrkit-1.1.6 USE=unicode -hfs 1,375 kB [ebuild N] media-libs/libdvdread-0.9.7 380 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-a52dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-mpeg2dec-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] app-cdr/dvd+rw-tools-7.1 138 kB [ebuild N] media-plugins/gst-plugins-dvdread-0.10.6 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/nautilus-cd-burner-2.20.0 USE=cdr dvdr -debug 0 kB [ebuild N] media-video/totem-2.20.3 USE=bluetooth dvd flac gnome python vorbis -a52 -debug -ffmpeg -galago -hal -lirc -mad -mpeg -nsplugin -nvtv -ogg -seamonkey -theora -xulrunner -xv 0 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/gnome-media-2.20.1 USE=ipv6 vorbis -debug -esd -mad -ogg 0 kB [ebuild N] dev-python/gnome-python-desktop-2.20.0 USE=X -debug -doc 0 kB Total: 25 packages (25 new), Size of downloads: 6,981 kB I was wondering if anyone knows whether the package really needs all these dependencies, as it seems ludicrous to be installing video players etc, just for the sake of a python module. Many thanks Alastair Irving -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] What cpu type in make.conf for E4600
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags suggests using: -march=prescott for 32-bit -march=nocona for 64-bit. Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:09:48 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: model name : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz core2 if you use GCC 4.3, nocona for earlier, or set it to native if you don't use distcc. -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] xorg.conf gui editor
This program certainly does look nice, I wonder how it will play with nvidia-settings and the equivalent ATI program. Given Ubuntu's fairly large dependency on gnome, I'm betting that this program has the usual gnome dependencies. Since I use Xfce, I will likely not use it because of that. Anyone know if this (or an equivalent program) will be included in Xubuntu and Kubuntu and other non-Gnome Ubuntu distributions? - Brian Daniel Iliev wrote: Hi, list I came across an article [1] about xorg.conf gui editor developed by Ubuntu. I just thought some of you might be interested in reading more about this and someone could even put a request for including that tool in Gentoo. [1] http://fosswire.com/2007/08/17/ubuntu-getting-xorgconf-gui/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem with Suspend-to-RAM and Virtual Consoles
I've got an interesting problem when attempting to Suspend-to-RAM (S3) and virtual consoles. I swear, three days ago it was working and I didn't change anything (I don't think) at least that would change how this works (i.e. kernel, drivers, whatever) With that said, here's my problem (and what I've tried): 1. If I initiate suspend-to-ram from a console itself, it suspends fine, resumes fine, but the screen is BLANK.I can type stuff, but for some reason when I reboot (i.e. typing reboot or Ctrl+Alt+Del, it freezes on some process and doesn't reboot -- I have to power cycle the computer by holding down the power button for 5 seconds). 2. If I initiate suspend-to-ram from X, it suspends fine, resumes fine and the X screen comes up. HOWEVER, if I then switch to a virtual console, it comes up blank. The same problem occurs when I reboot, however. 3. Suspend-to-disk works in both cases. And rebooting afterwards is also fine. To reiterate, I haven't changed anything that I believe to be low enough t cause problems with this... has anyone seen anything like it? I've tried things like adding acpi_sleep=s3_bios,s3_mode, etc to the kernel line in grub.conf, but that doesn't seem to be doing much. Attempting to blinding play with vbetool also doesn't do anything. Setting up the console in framebuffer mode also makes no difference. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. - Brian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw3945 and wpa_supplicant issues
Actually, Will you are a bit wrong. Restarting the ipw3945d service yields
the same results. Here's what happens when I restart the ipw3945 service:
# /etc/init.d/ipw3945d restart
* Stopping eth1
* Bringing down eth1
* Stopping dhcpcd on eth1 ...
[ ok ]
* Shutting down eth1 ...
[ ok ]
* Stopping wpa_cli on eth1 ...
[ ok ]
* Stopping wpa_supplicant on eth1 ...
[ ok ]
* Stopping ipw3945d ...
[ ok ]
* Starting ipw3945d ...
[ ok ]
* Starting eth1
* Starting wpa_supplicant on eth1 ...
ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: Resource temporarily unavailable
Could not configure driver to use managed mode
ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily unavailable
WEXT auth param 7 value 0x1 - ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource
temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily unavailable
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily
unavailable
[ ok ]th param 5 value 0x1 -
* Starting wpa_cli on eth1 ...
[ ok ]
* Backgrounding ...
Which is basically the same problem as what José posted about, except he
is restarting net.eth1.
Anyone know of a solution to fix this? (Aside from getting a different
wireless NIC)
* net-wireless/ipw3945
Latest version available: 1.2.0
Latest version installed: 1.2.0
* net-wireless/ipw3945-ucode
Latest version available: 1.14.2
Latest version installed: 1.14.2
* net-wireless/ipw3945d
Latest version available: 1.7.22-r4
Latest version installed: 1.7.22-r4
- Brian
On Thu, April 26, 2007 8:35 pm, Will Briggs wrote:
� wrote: Hi all!
I own a Toshiba laptop P100-400 with a Intel PRO/Wireless 3945ABG
wireless adapter. I've managed to get it working with normal WEP
authentication, but no success with wpa_supplicant (and I really need it
for WPA auth).
# /etc/init.d/net.eth1 restart
* Stopping eth1
* Bringing down eth1
* Stopping dhcpcd on eth1
...
[ ok ]
* Shutting down eth1
...
[
ok ] * Stopping wpa_cli on eth1
...
[ ok ]
* Stopping wpa_supplicant on eth1
...
[ ok ]
* Starting eth1
* Starting wpa_supplicant on eth1 ...
ioctl[SIOCSIWMODE]: Resource temporarily unavailable
Could not configure driver to use managed mode
ioctl[SIOCGIWRANGE]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily unavailable
WEXT auth param 7 value 0x1 - ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource
temporarily unavailable ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily
unavailable ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Resource temporarily unavailable
ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily unavailable
WEXT auth param 4 value 0x0 - ioctl[SIOCSIWAUTH]: Resource temporarily
unavailable
[ ok ]th param 5 value 0x1 -
* Starting wpa_cli on eth1
...
[ ok
]
* Failed to configure eth1 in the background
Ugly, uh? :/
Yeah
A number of things, some of which you may know:
1) Don't add net.eth1 to runlevel. The ipw3945 module loading
(/etc/modprobe.conf) runs ipw3945d init script which brings up net.eth1
which is managed by wpa_supplicant. If you try and manage net.eth1
yourself (with rc-update, or with something like ifplugd then things will
get confused). I do have netplug configed for eth* but I think it knows
how to get out of the way of wpa_supplicant.
All you need to do is emerge ipw3945 - no rc-updating needed.
2) If you ever need to restart net.eth1, restart ipw3945d instead.
3) My wpa_supplicant.conf just as comparision:
# Intel PRO/Wireless 3945 :: wpa_supplicant.conf
ctrl_interface=/var/run/wpa_supplicant # DO NOT remove this line!
ctrl_interface_group=0 # Only allow root to read config. ap_scan=1 #
Allows wpa_supplicant to handle AP scanning.
# The following configures wpa_supplicant for a WPA
network={ ssid=foo
scan_ssid=1 # Use if SSID broadcast is disabled.
psk=bar # Your key here.
}
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Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing 'eth0' with 'wlan0'
Abraham, I think what you may want to do is adjust the DHCP timeout for eth0. For ethernet devices, it's pretty good to assume that if after 10 seconds it doesn't receive DHCP it probably wont. So on my laptop, in /etc/conf.d/net I have: dhcpcd_eth0=-t 10 Which will timeout eth0 after 10 seconds, thus making the system boot time faster. Now what you can do to solve the wlan0 problem is: 1. Add ndiswrapper to /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.# (whatever # your kernel is, either 2.4 or 2.6) 2. cd /etc/init.d/ 3. ln -s net.eth0 net.wlan0 4. Edit /etc/conf.d/net to do what you want for the wlan0 interface. Now, lets assume for a minute that neither interface is able to get valid DHCP information. I've solved this problem on mine by enabling APIPA (automatic private IP address) should DHCP fail. In /etc/conf.d/net you can do that as well. For my eth0 device on my laptop I have: config_eth0=( dhcp ) dhcpcd_eth0=-t 10 fallback_eth0=( apipa ) Some examples you may want to follow are in the Modular Networking docs here: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?style=printablepart=4chap=3 Hope this helps. - Brian On Wed, March 7, 2007 1:25 pm, Abraham Gyorgy wrote: Hello again :) I've switched my networking from wired eth0 to wlan0. I'm using ndiswrapper with Win32 driver and an USB WiFi adapter. Everything is fine, but... When I set up my Gentoo installation, I've added net.eth0 to default runlevel (it provices the networking in the init system). My ethernet driver (forcedeth nvidia nforce2 chip) is compiled in, using DHCP. All I had to do is to add net.eth0. Now when my system boots it is waiting 1-2 mins for DHCP, then goes forward, but (in the init system) there is no networking, so Samba and other stuff doesnt work. I want to replace this thing, 1) ndiswrapper module should go to /etc/modules.autoload folder 2) then wlan0 device appears, I want to do iwlist wlan0 scan, then DHCP for wlan0 3) all this stuff should go nice to init system, eth0 should be removed, so wlan0 should provide the init system with net. Now I wait for eth0 dhcp'ing, then modprobe, iwlist, and dhcpcd by hand, but it is time consuming and not so nice. What to do exactly guys? Thanks a lot! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
