Re: [gentoo-user] re-activating a netbook
Hi Philip, On Thursday 19 September 2024 19:39:38 BST Philip Webb wrote: > Back in 2009, I bought an Asus EEE netbook, Which model? Does it have a 32bit or 64bit CPU instruction set? [Snip ...] > I wanted to replace Windows with Linux Mint or another binary distro > -- avoiding the need to update Gentoo -- , but ran into a problem : > Horace no longer boots from USB. I can transfer files via USB stick, > but can't get a live USB version of Mint etc to start. If you press F2 on start up you should be able to get into the BIOS menu. I think pressing Esc instead of F2 will show the Boot Order menu, where you can select the USB medium to boot from. You can refer to the ASUS online docs for specific model buttons and options. HOWEVER ... if the netbook CPU is 32bit, then you have to use a x86 LiveUSB, because an amd64 instruction set will not run on a 32bit CPU. > Also, I now use Wifi exclusively -- I no longer have a landline -- , > but while Horace can access Wifi, his Gentoo doesn't have Wifi installed, > so there's a Catch-22 : w/o a landline, I can't install WPA etc. This is a matter of booting with a LiveUSB which has the necessary drivers/ firmware to drive the WiFi NIC on the netbook, plus configuring wpa_supplicant, or networkmanager with your WiFi AP authentication credentials. Your Gentoo installation is too old to try to update/upgrade it, so it is best if you reinstall. Given the inadequate CPU/RAM available on the netbook to compile software from source files within reasonable timescales, it is advisable you either install Gentoo using binary packages: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Gentoo_Binary_Host_Quickstart or install some other binary distro. Of course, if your netbook has 32bit hardware your choices will be limited. You could still install Gentoo, but you'll have to build a 32bit host environment on a more powerful PC in order to compile all your 32bit packages as binaries and continue to do so each time you want to update your eeePC. I'd only recommend this route if you really wish to take it up as a hobby for a rainy day ... ;-) > One solution mb simply to copy an upto-date Mint ISO > into the partition now occupied by Windows -- which I don't need -- > & set up Lilo -- which is my prefered boot manager -- to boot from it ; > Lilo currently allows a choice of Gentoo/Windows. > > Does anyone know if that would work or how to trouble-shoot it ? Assuming you have found a LiveISO of an OS suitable for your hardware, you could copy the ISO on a directory in your Gentoo fs. Then you will need to install GRUB2 and configure '/etc/grub.d/40_custom' to chainload the ISO from your disk: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB/Chainloading I am not familiar how to do this with LILO, but I expect you'd have to add a new menu entry and specify a kernel cmdline to point it at the path where the ISO resides. Something like this may/might work: root=iso:/dev/hdaX:/path/to/live_image.iso rootfstype=ext4 HTH. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] fsck operational error
Hello, Upon boot OpenRc shows this warning: fsck: checking local filesystem fsck: fsck.ext4 device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/nvme0n1p6 fsck: filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program? fsck: operational error This is the root filesystem, and in fstab it is listed as: UUID=-- / ext4noatime,discard 0 1 /etc/conf.d/fsck contains only: fsck_on_battery="YES" fsck_shutdown="NO" fsck_abort_on_errors="YES" This started a week ago after a system update when I switched from kernel 6.10.9 to 6.10.10 (~amd64). That day there was also an update of OpenRc to version 0.55. Has anybody seen the same? thanks, raf
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Friday 20 September 2024 19:27:33 BST Michael wrote: > On Friday 20 September 2024 14:38:53 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 20 September 2024 13:53:13 BST Michael wrote: > > > I understand there were some changes with KSMServer on Qt6, so the > > > suggestion provided in the previous thread may or may not work. It may > > > work with X11 (if you provide $XDISPLAY), but not with Wayland. > > > > Quite so. That's why I was scratching around to find a better way. > > > > In case anyone else comes looking for this, the key is 'man loginctl'. > > Does loginctl save any unsaved application data and logout from a session > gracefully? Yes, as far as I can tell. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Friday 20 September 2024 14:38:53 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 20 September 2024 13:53:13 BST Michael wrote: > > I understand there were some changes with KSMServer on Qt6, so the > > suggestion provided in the previous thread may or may not work. It may > > work with X11 (if you provide $XDISPLAY), but not with Wayland. > > Quite so. That's why I was scratching around to find a better way. > > In case anyone else comes looking for this, the key is 'man loginctl'. Does loginctl save any unsaved application data and logout from a session gracefully? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Friday 20 September 2024 13:53:13 BST Michael wrote: > I understand there were some changes with KSMServer on Qt6, so the > suggestion provided in the previous thread may or may not work. It may > work with X11 (if you provide $XDISPLAY), but not with Wayland. Quite so. That's why I was scratching around to find a better way. In case anyone else comes looking for this, the key is 'man loginctl'. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Friday 20 September 2024 13:43:44 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Wednesday 18 September 2024 19:59:15 BST Dale wrote: > >> Peter Humphrey wrote: > >>> Greetings, > >>> > >>> I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and > >>> that > >>> includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is > >>> running a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it > >>> before > >>> rebooting, so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything > >>> I've found so far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. > >>> > >>> Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I > >>> can't find it if so. > >> > >> I found this in a previous thread named [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?. > > > > --->8 > > > > Thank you Dale. I knew it was familiar. > > > > Don't ask why I couldn't find it for myself, because I haven't a clue. > > Well, I had to dig pretty good. Even with my awful memory, I knew it > was mentioned. Using the right search terms was where it got tricky. I > found it tho. Seamonkey does a pretty good job when it comes to > searching emails, assume Thunderbird works the same way. > > Very welcome. > > Dale > > :-) :-) I understand there were some changes with KSMServer on Qt6, so the suggestion provided in the previous thread may or may not work. It may work with X11 (if you provide $XDISPLAY), but not with Wayland. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Wednesday 18 September 2024 19:59:15 BST Dale wrote: >> Peter Humphrey wrote: >>> Greetings, >>> >>> I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and that >>> includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is >>> running a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it before >>> rebooting, so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything >>> I've found so far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. >>> >>> Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I >>> can't find it if so. >> I found this in a previous thread named [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?. > --->8 > > Thank you Dale. I knew it was familiar. > > Don't ask why I couldn't find it for myself, because I haven't a clue. > Well, I had to dig pretty good. Even with my awful memory, I knew it was mentioned. Using the right search terms was where it got tricky. I found it tho. Seamonkey does a pretty good job when it comes to searching emails, assume Thunderbird works the same way. Very welcome. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Wednesday 18 September 2024 19:59:15 BST Dale wrote: > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and that > > includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is > > running a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it before > > rebooting, so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything > > I've found so far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. > > > > Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I > > can't find it if so. > > I found this in a previous thread named [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?. --->8 Thank you Dale. I knew it was familiar. Don't ask why I couldn't find it for myself, because I haven't a clue. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] re-activating a netbook
> Horace no longer boots from USB IMO that is because you are trying to boot in uefi mode and eeepc needs legacy mode. Try flashing something that supports the legacy mode (MBR and so on). Also I think reinstalling Gentoo would be easier than upgrading it. Do you still want to use it? If so, remember about the binhost. Regards fkobi Original Message On 9/19/24 20:39, Philip Webb wrote: > Back in 2009, I bought an Asus EEE netbook, which I called Horace, > & installed Gentoo alongside Windows, which I've never used. > Gentoo was last updated in 2015 ; the device is in good repair. > > Recently, I checked Horace & he still does 1 of his intended jobs, > ie reading & editing texts of novels etc downloaded from the I/net > (the other 2 jobs are no longer required). > > I wanted to replace Windows with Linux Mint or another binary distro > -- avoiding the need to update Gentoo -- , but ran into a problem : > Horace no longer boots from USB. I can transfer files via USB stick, > but can't get a live USB version of Mint etc to start. > > Also, I now use Wifi exclusively -- I no longer have a landline -- , > but while Horace can access Wifi, his Gentoo doesn't have Wifi installed, > so there's a Catch-22 : w/o a landline, I can't install WPA etc. > > One solution mb simply to copy an upto-date Mint ISO > into the partition now occupied by Windows -- which I don't need -- > & set up Lilo -- which is my prefered boot manager -- to boot from it ; > Lilo currently allows a choice of Gentoo/Windows. > > Does anyone know if that would work or how to trouble-shoot it ? > > -- > ,, > SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb > ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto > TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet > > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] re-activating a netbook
Back in 2009, I bought an Asus EEE netbook, which I called Horace, & installed Gentoo alongside Windows, which I've never used. Gentoo was last updated in 2015 ; the device is in good repair. Recently, I checked Horace & he still does 1 of his intended jobs, ie reading & editing texts of novels etc downloaded from the I/net (the other 2 jobs are no longer required). I wanted to replace Windows with Linux Mint or another binary distro -- avoiding the need to update Gentoo -- , but ran into a problem : Horace no longer boots from USB. I can transfer files via USB stick, but can't get a live USB version of Mint etc to start. Also, I now use Wifi exclusively -- I no longer have a landline -- , but while Horace can access Wifi, his Gentoo doesn't have Wifi installed, so there's a Catch-22 : w/o a landline, I can't install WPA etc. One solution mb simply to copy an upto-date Mint ISO into the partition now occupied by Windows -- which I don't need -- & set up Lilo -- which is my prefered boot manager -- to boot from it ; Lilo currently allows a choice of Gentoo/Windows. Does anyone know if that would work or how to trouble-shoot it ? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Cities Centre, University of Toronto TRANSIT`-O--O---' purslowatcadotinterdotnet
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
On Wed, Sep 18, 2024 at 6:42 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Greetings, > > I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and that > includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is running > a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it before rebooting, > so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything I've found so > far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. > > Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I can't > find it if so. > > -- > Regards, > Peter. > I think the canned answer to that problem is running VNC which is what I do on my Raspberry Pi's. I've done it on a Kubuntu laptop in the past. Sadly that's more software overhead to maintain but I'm fairly confident it does work. Good luck, MArk
Re: [gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
Peter Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and that > includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is > running > a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it before rebooting, > so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything I've found so > far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. > > Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I > can't > find it if so. > I found this in a previous thread named [gentoo-user] Scripting KDE?. > Am Mon, Jul 29, 2024 at 02:17:13PM +0100 schrieb Peter Humphrey: >> Greetings, >> >> I'd like to be able to shut a KDE machine down from another room, over SSH. >> If >> I do that with a simple 'reboot' command, I lose all my desktop contents. >> Not >> surprising, as KDE is not shutting itself down but having the rug yanked out >> from under it. >> >> Is there a way to pass a shutdown command to KDE over SSH? Google doesn't >> help >> me much, though it has a good deal of stuff on scripting inside KDE. > Process communication in KDE happens with dbus. So whenever you want to > trigger an action in KDE vom the terminal, this is where you should look. > > The first two hits when I searched for "kde dbus logout" are: > https://superuser.com/questions/395820/how-to-properly-end-a-kde-session-from-shell-without-root-privileges > https://discuss.kde.org/t/logout-reboot-and-shutdown-using-the-terminal/743 > > Perhaps they put you on the right track to your goal. Does that help? Is that the new way? It's a recent thread. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Exiting from Qt6 over SSH
Greetings, I maintain an ~amd64 system remotely over SSH (from downstairs), and that includes rebooting it with, say, a new kernel. Sometimes the system is running a KDE/Plasma GUI, and I want to log out gracefully from it before rebooting, so that my session is saved. The question is: how? Everything I've found so far stopped working with Qt6. Not even doc.qt.io helps me. Hasn't this been tackled on this list before now? I thought it had but I can't find it if so. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] crossdev wants to install apache on _host_
Il 16/09/24 10:42, Mickaël Bucas ha scritto: Le sam. 14 sept. 2024 à 21:40, ralfconn a écrit : (snip) All works fine, I cross-build on Host binary packages and then 'emerge --usepkg' on the Target. Well, almost all... On the Target I have apache, on the Host not because I don't need it. Sometimes the update wants to install apache also on the Host. For example, today I have: # emerge-aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu -uDvNa @world (snip) Note the lines without 'to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/", these packages will be installed on Host. Any ideas why? thanks raf Hi Ralf One possible explanation is that "www-servers/apache" could be a build dependency of some other package. However I don't see in the list of updates any package with this kind of dependency on "www-servers/apache". The only one that seems to depend on it is "app-eselect/eselect-php", but it'd be installed on the host. [ebuild N ] app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.9::gentoo USE="apache2 fpm" 54 KiB Do you install "dev-lang/php" on the target or the host or both ? php is not on the Host: # eix -I php apache No matches found It is on the Target, as a dependency of www-apps/pihole-admin-lte (tatsh-overlay) while apache is a dependency of php with USE=apache2. All as expected. Looking at the pihole-admin-lte ebuild I find this: BDEPEND="app-misc/jq app-portage/portage-utils" RDEPEND="app-admin/sudo dev-lang/php[fileinfo,filter,gd,intl,session,sqlite,tokenizer] net-dns/pihole virtual/httpd-php" Humm, interesting, jq is another package that crossdev wants to install on the Host. BDEPEND are build-time dependencies and it is correctly cross-built on Host but for some reason crossdev wants to build it also for the Host. Could it be an issue with the pihole-admin-lte ebuild rather than apache's? I'd need to understand ebuilds, easier said than done... raf
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 02:46:35PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> I was running the command again and when I was checking on it, it >> stopped with this error. >> >> >> >> File "/root/dh", line 1209, in >> main() >> File "/root/dh", line 1184, in main >> directory_hash(dir_path, '', dir_files, checksums) >> File "/root/dh", line 1007, in directory_hash >> os.path.basename(old_sums[filename][1]) >> ^^ >> KeyError: 'Some Video.mp4' > What was the exact command with which you ran it? > Apparently the directory has a file 'Some Video.mp4', which was not listed > in an existing checksum file. I'm fairly sure it was this command. /root/dh -c -f -F 1Checksums.md5 -v I may have changed the -c to -u because I think it was the second run. I'd start with the thought it was -u if it were me. There's another command running right now and I cleared the scrollback part. Once it finishes, I can up arrow and be more sure. At the moment, I'm letting it test the files against the checksum it created, to be sure everything is good. It's almost half way through and no problems so far. I might add, I did a second run with -u, which I think produced the error above, and it seems to have missed some directories. When looking I noticed some directories didn't have a checksum file in it. That's when I ran it a second time. It skipped the ones it already did but found the ones that was missed in first run. There are almost 46,000 files in almost 800 directories. Is there some tool your script relies on that could make one of those numbers to high? > I also noticed a problem recently which happens if you give dh a directory > as argument which has no checksum file in it. Or something like it, I can’t > reproduce it from memory right now. I have been doing some refactoring > recently in order to get one-file-per-tree mode working. > >> I was doing a second run because I updated some files. So, it was >> skipping some and creating new for some new ones. This is the command I >> was running, which may not be the best way. >> >> >> /root/dh -c -f -F 1Checksums.md5 -v > Yeah, using the -c option will clobber any old checksums and re-read all > files fresh. If you only changed a few files, using the -u option will > drastically increase speed because only the changed files will be read. > Use the -d option to clean up dangling entries from checksum files. That was my thinking. When I update a set, I'll likely just cd to that directory and update, -u, that one directory instead of everything. That will save time and all. Doing everything takes days. LOL > >> Also, what is the best way to handle this type of situation. Let's say >> I have a set of videos. Later on I get a better set of videos, higher >> resolution or something. I copy those to a temporary directory then use >> your dmv script from a while back to replace the old files with the new >> files but with identical names. Thing is, file is different, sometimes >> a lot different. What is the best way to get it to update the checksums >> for the changed files? Is the command above correct? > dh has some smarts built-in. If you changed a file, then its modification > timestamp will get udpated. When dh runs in -u mode and it finds a file > whose timestamp is newer than its associated checksum file, that means the > file may have been altered since the creation of that checksum. So dh will > re-hash the file and replace the checksum in the checksum file. > Sounds good. I wasn't sure if it would see the change or not. >> I'm sometimes pretty good at finding software bugs. But hey, it just >> makes your software better. ;-) > Me too, usually. If it’s not my software, anyways. ^^ > But I think you may be the first other of that tool other than me. > One thing I've noticed, when I run this tool, my video sputters at times. It does fine when not running. This tool makes that set of hard drives pretty busy. It might be nice to add a ionice setting. I'd just set it inside the script. If a person wants, they can edit and change it. Just set it to a little lower than normal stuff should be fine. If I restart smplayer, I may set its ionice to a higher priority. Just a thought and likely easy enough to do. I don't want to stop your script given it is so far along. It sometimes pops up a question. I figured out that I type in the answer with the letter that is in parentheses. Could you explain the options a bit just to be sure I understand it correctly? So far, this is a nice tool. It should find corruption, like my bad memory stick, bit rot, bad drive or anything else that could corrupt a file. Even power failure I'd think. It takes a while to do the checksums but the script itself is fast. Once you really happy with this and feel like it is ready, you should really make a announcement that it is ready. Anyone who does a lot of write once and
Re: [gentoo-user] crossdev wants to install apache on _host_
Le sam. 14 sept. 2024 à 21:40, ralfconn a écrit : > > Hello, > > I have a RaspberryPi with gentoo, I use crossdev to update it. I have > NFS server and client on both the Host and the Target so that I can mount: > > on the Target, the Host's > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/cache/binpkgs > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/db/repos > > and on the Host, the Target's > /var/db/pkg > > I copy the Target's world file manually from Target to Host's > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/lib/portage/ > > All works fine, I cross-build on Host binary packages and then 'emerge > --usepkg' on the Target. > > Well, almost all... On the Target I have apache, on the Host not because > I don't need it. Sometimes the update wants to install apache also on > the Host. > > For example, today I have: > > # emerge-aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu -uDvNa @world > > [ebuild N ] acct-group/apache-0-r3::gentoo 0 KiB > [ebuild N ] acct-group/named-0-r3::gentoo to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ 0 KiB > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/oniguruma-6.9.9:0/5::gentoo > USE="-crnl-as-line-terminator -static-libs" 936 KiB > [ebuild N ] acct-user/apache-0-r3::gentoo 0 KiB > [ebuild N ] acct-user/named-0-r3::gentoo to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ 0 KiB > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/apr-1.7.5:1/1.7::gentoo USE="urandom -doc > -old-kernel (-selinux) -static-libs -valgrind" 878 KiB > [ebuild U ] dev-libs/expat-2.6.3::gentoo [2.6.2::gentoo] to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="unicode -examples -static-libs > -test" 475 KiB > [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-8.10.0::gentoo [8.9.1-r1::gentoo] to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="adns alt-svc ftp hsts http2 http3 > imap openssl pop3 progress-meter psl quic smtp ssl tftp websockets* > -brotli -debug -gnutls -gopher -idn -kerberos -ldap -mbedtls -rtmp > (-rustls) -samba -ssh (-sslv3) -static-libs -telnet -test -verify-sig > -zstd" CURL_QUIC="openssl -ngtcp2" CURL_SSL="openssl -gnutls -mbedtls > (-rustls)" 2666 KiB > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.6.3:1::gentoo USE="gdbm -berkdb > -doc -ldap -mysql -nss -odbc -openssl -postgres -sqlite -static-libs" > 423 KiB > [ebuild N ] app-admin/apache-tools-2.4.62::gentoo USE="ssl" 7346 KiB > [ebuild N ] www-servers/apache-2.4.62:2::gentoo USE="gdbm ssl > suexec-caps -debug -doc -ldap (-selinux) -static -suexec -suexec-syslog > -systemd -threads" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_anon > authn_core authn_dbm authn_file authz_core authz_dbm authz_groupfile > authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs > dav_lock deflate dir env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers > http2 include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite > setenvif socache_shmcb speling status unique_id unixd userdir usertrack > vhost_alias -access_compat -allowmethods -asis -auth_digest -auth_form > -authn_dbd -authn_socache -authz_dbd -brotli -cache_disk -cache_socache > -cern_meta -charset_lite -dbd -dumpio -ident -imagemap > -lbmethod_bybusyness -lbmethod_byrequests -lbmethod_bytraffic > -lbmethod_heartbeat -log_forensic (-lua) -macro -md -proxy -proxy_ajp > -proxy_balancer -proxy_connect -proxy_fcgi -proxy_ftp -proxy_hcheck > -proxy_html -proxy_http -proxy_http2 -proxy_scgi -proxy_uwsgi > -proxy_wstunnel -ratelimit -remoteip -reqtimeout -session > -session_cookie -session_crypto -session_dbd -slotmem_shm > -socache_memcache -substitute -tls -version -watchdog -xml2enc" > APACHE2_MPMS="-event -prefork -worker" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-3 > -lua5-4" 26 KiB > [ebuild N ] app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.9::gentoo USE="apache2 > fpm" 54 KiB > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/json-c-0.17:0/5::gentoo to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="-static-libs -threads" 381 KiB > [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.40-r3:2.2::gentoo [2.40:2.2::gentoo] > to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="multiarch ssp (static-libs) > -audit -caps (-cet) -compile-locales (-custom-cflags) -doc -gd > -hash-sysv-compat -headers-only (-multilib) -multilib-bootstrap -nscd > -perl -profile (-selinux) (-stack-realign) -suid -systemd -systemtap > -test (-vanilla)" 18368 KiB > [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.23.2-r2:1/11.6.15.2::gentoo > [1.23.2:1/11.6.15.2::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="cxx > -common-lisp -debug -python -qt5 -qt6 -static-libs -test -verify-sig" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -python3_10 -python3_11 -python3_13" 1794 KiB > [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-3.12.6:3.12::gentoo > [3.12.5_p1:3.12::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ > USE="ensurepip gdbm ncurses readline sqlite ssl -bluetooth -build -debug > -examples -libedit -pgo -test -tk -valgrind -verify-sig" 19962 KiB > [ebuild U ] dev-python/urllib3-2.2.3::gentoo [2.2.2::gentoo] to > /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="-brotli -http2 -test -zstd" > PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -pypy3 -python3_10 -python3_11 -python3_13" > 294 KiB > [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-3.0.66::gentoo [3.0.65-r1::gentoo] to > /usr/aarc
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Sat, Sep 14, 2024 at 02:46:35PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I was running the command again and when I was checking on it, it > stopped with this error. > > > > File "/root/dh", line 1209, in > main() > File "/root/dh", line 1184, in main > directory_hash(dir_path, '', dir_files, checksums) > File "/root/dh", line 1007, in directory_hash > os.path.basename(old_sums[filename][1]) > ^^ > KeyError: 'Some Video.mp4' What was the exact command with which you ran it? Apparently the directory has a file 'Some Video.mp4', which was not listed in an existing checksum file. I also noticed a problem recently which happens if you give dh a directory as argument which has no checksum file in it. Or something like it, I can’t reproduce it from memory right now. I have been doing some refactoring recently in order to get one-file-per-tree mode working. > I was doing a second run because I updated some files. So, it was > skipping some and creating new for some new ones. This is the command I > was running, which may not be the best way. > > > /root/dh -c -f -F 1Checksums.md5 -v Yeah, using the -c option will clobber any old checksums and re-read all files fresh. If you only changed a few files, using the -u option will drastically increase speed because only the changed files will be read. Use the -d option to clean up dangling entries from checksum files. > Also, what is the best way to handle this type of situation. Let's say > I have a set of videos. Later on I get a better set of videos, higher > resolution or something. I copy those to a temporary directory then use > your dmv script from a while back to replace the old files with the new > files but with identical names. Thing is, file is different, sometimes > a lot different. What is the best way to get it to update the checksums > for the changed files? Is the command above correct? dh has some smarts built-in. If you changed a file, then its modification timestamp will get udpated. When dh runs in -u mode and it finds a file whose timestamp is newer than its associated checksum file, that means the file may have been altered since the creation of that checksum. So dh will re-hash the file and replace the checksum in the checksum file. > I'm sometimes pretty good at finding software bugs. But hey, it just > makes your software better. ;-) Me too, usually. If it’s not my software, anyways. ^^ But I think you may be the first other of that tool other than me. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Someone who eats oats for 200 years becomes very old. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] feature request for dev-tcltk/expect : install autoexpect to /usr/bin
As it is, if I want to run autoexpect I need to install with USE="doc",
and then unpack and install the script manually. This means I need to
update it whenever expect is updated, in case there are changes. I'd
love to see something like:
--- a/dev-tcltk/expect/expect-5.45.4-r5.ebuild
+++ b/dev-tcltk/expect/expect-5.45.4-r5.ebuild
@@ -69,7 +69,7 @@ expect_make_var() {
src_install() {
default
-
+ cp -v example/autoexpect "${D}/usr/bin/"
if use doc ; then
docinto examples
--
, possibly controlled by a "tools" use-flag.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 01:21:20PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > I had a quick look at the manpage: with md5sum --quiet you can omit the grep > part. > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python script to do the same at speed. > And that is exactly what I have written for myself over the last 11 years. I > call it dh (short for dirhash). As I described in the previous mail, I use > it to create one hash files per directory. But it also supports one hash > file per data file and – a rather new feature – one hash file at the root of > a tree. Have a look here: https://github.com/felf/dh > Clone the repo or simply download the one file and put it into your path. > >>> I'll be honest here, on two points. I'd really like to be able to do >>> this but I have no idea where to or how to even start. My setup for >>> series type videos. In a parent directory, where I'd like a tool to >>> start, is about 600 directories. On a few occasions, there is another >>> directory inside that one. That directory under the parent is the name >>> of the series. > In its default, my tool ignores directories which have subdirectories. It > only hashes files in dirs that have no subdirs (leaves in the tree). But > this can be overridden with the -f option. > > My tool also has an option to skip a number of directories and to process > only a certain number of directories. > >>> Sometimes I have a sub directory that has temp files; >>> new files I have yet to rename, considering replacing in the main series >>> directory etc. I wouldn't mind having a file with a checksum for each >>> video in the top directory, and even one in the sub directory. As a >>> example. >>> >>> TV_Series/ >>> >>> ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) >>> │ └── torrent >>> ├── Adam-12 (1968) >>> ├── Airwolf (1984) > So with my tool you would do > $ dh -f -F all TV_Series > `-F all` causes a checksum file to be created for each data file. > >>> What >>> I'd like, a program that would generate checksums for each file under >>> say 77 Sunset and it could skip or include the directory under it. > Unfortunately I don’t have a skip feature yet that skips specific > directories. I could add a feature that looks for a marker file and then > skips that directory (and its subdirs). > I was running the command again and when I was checking on it, it stopped with this error. File "/root/dh", line 1209, in main() File "/root/dh", line 1184, in main directory_hash(dir_path, '', dir_files, checksums) File "/root/dh", line 1007, in directory_hash os.path.basename(old_sums[filename][1]) ^^ KeyError: 'Some Video.mp4' I was doing a second run because I updated some files. So, it was skipping some and creating new for some new ones. This is the command I was running, which may not be the best way. /root/dh -c -f -F 1Checksums.md5 -v That make any sense to you? That's all it spit out. Also, what is the best way to handle this type of situation. Let's say I have a set of videos. Later on I get a better set of videos, higher resolution or something. I copy those to a temporary directory then use your dmv script from a while back to replace the old files with the new files but with identical names. Thing is, file is different, sometimes a lot different. What is the best way to get it to update the checksums for the changed files? Is the command above correct? I'm sometimes pretty good at finding software bugs. But hey, it just makes your software better. ;-) Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] crossdev wants to install apache on _host_
Hello, I have a RaspberryPi with gentoo, I use crossdev to update it. I have NFS server and client on both the Host and the Target so that I can mount: on the Target, the Host's /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/cache/binpkgs /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/db/repos and on the Host, the Target's /var/db/pkg I copy the Target's world file manually from Target to Host's /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/var/lib/portage/ All works fine, I cross-build on Host binary packages and then 'emerge --usepkg' on the Target. Well, almost all... On the Target I have apache, on the Host not because I don't need it. Sometimes the update wants to install apache also on the Host. For example, today I have: # emerge-aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu -uDvNa @world [ebuild N ] acct-group/apache-0-r3::gentoo 0 KiB [ebuild N ] acct-group/named-0-r3::gentoo to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ 0 KiB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/oniguruma-6.9.9:0/5::gentoo USE="-crnl-as-line-terminator -static-libs" 936 KiB [ebuild N ] acct-user/apache-0-r3::gentoo 0 KiB [ebuild N ] acct-user/named-0-r3::gentoo to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ 0 KiB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/apr-1.7.5:1/1.7::gentoo USE="urandom -doc -old-kernel (-selinux) -static-libs -valgrind" 878 KiB [ebuild U ] dev-libs/expat-2.6.3::gentoo [2.6.2::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="unicode -examples -static-libs -test" 475 KiB [ebuild U ] net-misc/curl-8.10.0::gentoo [8.9.1-r1::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="adns alt-svc ftp hsts http2 http3 imap openssl pop3 progress-meter psl quic smtp ssl tftp websockets* -brotli -debug -gnutls -gopher -idn -kerberos -ldap -mbedtls -rtmp (-rustls) -samba -ssh (-sslv3) -static-libs -telnet -test -verify-sig -zstd" CURL_QUIC="openssl -ngtcp2" CURL_SSL="openssl -gnutls -mbedtls (-rustls)" 2666 KiB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/apr-util-1.6.3:1::gentoo USE="gdbm -berkdb -doc -ldap -mysql -nss -odbc -openssl -postgres -sqlite -static-libs" 423 KiB [ebuild N ] app-admin/apache-tools-2.4.62::gentoo USE="ssl" 7346 KiB [ebuild N ] www-servers/apache-2.4.62:2::gentoo USE="gdbm ssl suexec-caps -debug -doc -ldap (-selinux) -static -suexec -suexec-syslog -systemd -threads" APACHE2_MODULES="actions alias auth_basic authn_anon authn_core authn_dbm authn_file authz_core authz_dbm authz_groupfile authz_host authz_owner authz_user autoindex cache cgi cgid dav dav_fs dav_lock deflate dir env expires ext_filter file_cache filter headers http2 include info log_config logio mime mime_magic negotiation rewrite setenvif socache_shmcb speling status unique_id unixd userdir usertrack vhost_alias -access_compat -allowmethods -asis -auth_digest -auth_form -authn_dbd -authn_socache -authz_dbd -brotli -cache_disk -cache_socache -cern_meta -charset_lite -dbd -dumpio -ident -imagemap -lbmethod_bybusyness -lbmethod_byrequests -lbmethod_bytraffic -lbmethod_heartbeat -log_forensic (-lua) -macro -md -proxy -proxy_ajp -proxy_balancer -proxy_connect -proxy_fcgi -proxy_ftp -proxy_hcheck -proxy_html -proxy_http -proxy_http2 -proxy_scgi -proxy_uwsgi -proxy_wstunnel -ratelimit -remoteip -reqtimeout -session -session_cookie -session_crypto -session_dbd -slotmem_shm -socache_memcache -substitute -tls -version -watchdog -xml2enc" APACHE2_MPMS="-event -prefork -worker" LUA_SINGLE_TARGET="lua5-1 -lua5-3 -lua5-4" 26 KiB [ebuild N ] app-eselect/eselect-php-0.9.9::gentoo USE="apache2 fpm" 54 KiB [ebuild N ] dev-libs/json-c-0.17:0/5::gentoo to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="-static-libs -threads" 381 KiB [ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.40-r3:2.2::gentoo [2.40:2.2::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="multiarch ssp (static-libs) -audit -caps (-cet) -compile-locales (-custom-cflags) -doc -gd -hash-sysv-compat -headers-only (-multilib) -multilib-bootstrap -nscd -perl -profile (-selinux) (-stack-realign) -suid -systemd -systemtap -test (-vanilla)" 18368 KiB [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.23.2-r2:1/11.6.15.2::gentoo [1.23.2:1/11.6.15.2::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="cxx -common-lisp -debug -python -qt5 -qt6 -static-libs -test -verify-sig" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -python3_10 -python3_11 -python3_13" 1794 KiB [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-3.12.6:3.12::gentoo [3.12.5_p1:3.12::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="ensurepip gdbm ncurses readline sqlite ssl -bluetooth -build -debug -examples -libedit -pgo -test -tk -valgrind -verify-sig" 19962 KiB [ebuild U ] dev-python/urllib3-2.2.3::gentoo [2.2.2::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="-brotli -http2 -test -zstd" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -pypy3 -python3_10 -python3_11 -python3_13" 294 KiB [ebuild U ] sys-apps/portage-3.0.66::gentoo [3.0.65-r1::gentoo] to /usr/aarch64-unknown-linux-gnu/ USE="(ipc) native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -apidoc -build -doc -gentoo-dev (-selinux) -test" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_12 -pypy3 -python3_10 -py
[gentoo-user] Portage improved
Greetings, I see that the latest version of portage has improved the handling of giant packages. Today I had a few dozen kde-frameworks packages to install, together with webkit-gtk. That job was near the top of the list, so it was started before most of the kde ones. I have this in make.conf: $ grep '\-j' /etc/portage/make.conf EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS="--jobs=24 --load-average=30 [...]" MAKEOPTS="-j16 -l16" (64GB, 24 CPU threads) The CPU load then rose quickly past 40 as the kde packages got stuck in, up to 24 total jobs. I was surprised and pleased to see that packages were made to pause until cores became available. This process was progressive until the load came down again. That's a big improvement, and I'd like to commend the team on it. Just one little fly in the ointment: the status string became too long to show properly. Perhaps shorter phrases could be used, or numbers limited to two digits, or the 80-character line limit exceeded while running in an x-term. Anyway, well done the team! -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] xpra server on gentoo? Any gotchas?
On Friday 13 September 2024 10:16:14 BST n952162 wrote: > Hello all, > > when I run an xpra server on a gentoo box and attach via a client on a > nixos box, I get the following: > > /: Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)./ > /2024-09-13 11:04:03,232 Error: failed to receive anything, not an > xpra server?/ > /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 could also be the wrong protocol, > username, password or port/ > /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 or the session was not found/ > /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 Connection failed/ > > "PasswordAuthentication yes" is left commented out in > /etc/ssh/sshd_config, i.e. is the default. > > Anyone experience this? I don't use Xpra to know its intricacies, but the error message is giving you a hint. Some quick things to check for: Is there a listening port on the server box as you have specified? Is Xpra running on the server? Are you binding the correct address, or all addresses, e.g.: xpra start --bind-ssh=0.0.0.0:2 --start=some_app Can the user running the Xpra server access the private key? You can set IdentityFile, or make sure the user can access ~/.ssh/. Is there a firewall blocking access? And finally, increase verbosity and then check what the logs reveal on both ends of the connection, other than the no response message you posted. HTH. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] xpra server on gentoo? Any gotchas?
Hello all, when I run an xpra server on a gentoo box and attach via a client on a nixos box, I get the following: /: Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)./ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,232 Error: failed to receive anything, not an xpra server?/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 could also be the wrong protocol, username, password or port/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 or the session was not found/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 Connection failed/ "PasswordAuthentication yes" is left commented out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, i.e. is the default. Anyone experience this?
[gentoo-user] xpra server on gentoo? Any gotchas?
Hello all, when I run an xpra server on a gentoo box and attach via a client on a nixos box, I get the following: /: Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)./ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,232 Error: failed to receive anything, not an xpra server?/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 could also be the wrong protocol, username, password or port/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 or the session was not found/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 Connection failed/ "PasswordAuthentication yes" is left commented out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, i.e. is the default. Anyone experience this?
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Am Fri, Sep 13, 2024 at 01:19:00AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> P. S. Planning to try that checksum script soon. It's a large number > >> of files so it will take a long time to run. I think you mentioned that > >> if stopped, it will resume where it left off. > > Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of > > checksums > > where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you > > need > > to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to > > skip at the beginning. > > > > Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its > > behaviour. The normal way to go is: > > > > dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files > > dh [DIR] do read it back > > Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning. > > > > Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that > > have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a > > hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago. > > > > Well, I read through the help page and settled on this. I might have > did this wrong. ;-) > > /root/dh -c -F 1Checksums.md5 -v > > Right now I have the command in /root. I just did a cd to the parent > directory I wanted it to work on and then ran that command. Right now, > it is working on this bit. > > > (dir 141 of 631) > > and > > (file 8079 of 34061) I am thinking about adding filesize information, but that would require updating the status line during the processing of a file instead of only between files. That’s not trivial, as it involves timers and threads. > I was wondering tho, is there a way to make it put all the checksum > files in one place, like a directory call checksums, and they just all > go in there? Hm … from an algorithmic point of view, it would actually not be that complicated by creating a shortened filename from the source directory, but the real-world use seems a bit far-fetched. Checksums should be close to their data. If you have read errors for either, then the other is useless anyways. :D > Or just a single file in the parent directory? That way > the files aren't in each directory. That’s what the -s option is for. This will create only one checksum file at the root level for each directory argument. So if you run `dh -us foo/ bar/`, then it will go into foo/, create one checksum file there and put all lines into that one file, even for subdirectories, and do the same in bar/. However, at the moment automatically detecting and properly verifying those files is still in the works. So I think you have to use the -s option or -F all to read them. > Thing is, can I still just run it > on one directory if I have a suspected bad one? Not with one checksum file at the root level for an entire tree. The way I would handle this case: run dh -u on the directory of interest and then compare the checksums in the root-level file and the newly created file with a diff tool. Or copy the lines from the existing checksum file, create a new file in the directory of interest, remove the directory part of the paths and then run dh on just that directory. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ I don’t have a problem with alcohol, just without! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] xpra server on gentoo? Any gotchas?
Hello all, when I run an xpra server on a gentoo box and attach via a client is on a nixos box), I get the following: /: Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)./ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,232 Error: failed to receive anything, not an xpra server?/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 could also be the wrong protocol, username, password or port/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 or the session was not found/ /2024-09-13 11:04:03,233 Connection failed/ "PasswordAuthentication yes" is left commented out in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, i.e. is the default. Anyone experience this?
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
On Friday 13 September 2024 11:03:08 BST Dale wrote: > I notice another KDE release is on the way. It's unstable when it hits > the tree but I run unstable for KDE and friends. It may have some fixes > as well. Introduce a new feature, get half a dozen bugs to fix. Fix > those and then repeat. LOL Isn't that the way software works??? > > Should have a nice update to do this weekend. Good news - I've just installed it, and it does seem to have fixed my problem with misplaced windows. Just a quick look so far, but it seems good. I only have the one connected monitor, though. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 12 September 2024 13:54:25 BST Dale wrote: > >> This is fairly new and very consistent. It started a couple updates ago >> and I was hoping it was a bug and would be fixed. I'm starting to think >> it is a new feature. I've looked in preferences and can't find any >> setting related to this behavior. > Is it related to the recent problem in sddm or plasma, in which things appear > on the wrong desktops on startup, or all piled up on top of one another? > Not this time. There was a setting for this but I didn't think it would do what I wanted so I didn't try it. Frank mentioned that was the correct setting and I tried it. Sure enough, that was the problem. I figured I either missed something or Dolphin just made a big change. It was me. I will say this to tho, I was getting the same plasma thing until I started setting up window rules for all my apps. I also removed the plasma panel thingy at the bottom of screen two. That also helped with some other issues. Firefox started going to screen 2 the other day. I set up window rules for it and included both size and screen location. It seems the Force option is the only reliable way to make it work tho. I notice another KDE release is on the way. It's unstable when it hits the tree but I run unstable for KDE and friends. It may have some fixes as well. Introduce a new feature, get half a dozen bugs to fix. Fix those and then repeat. LOL Isn't that the way software works??? Should have a nice update to do this weekend. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Checksum tool says this now. (dir 190 of 631) It's chewing on it. Just like eating a elephant. :-D
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
On Thursday 12 September 2024 13:54:25 BST Dale wrote: > This is fairly new and very consistent. It started a couple updates ago > and I was hoping it was a bug and would be fixed. I'm starting to think > it is a new feature. I've looked in preferences and can't find any > setting related to this behavior. Is it related to the recent problem in sddm or plasma, in which things appear on the wrong desktops on startup, or all piled up on top of one another? -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:53:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >>> Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale: Howdy, I use Dolphin a lot. I like it and all but recently, it started doing something that annoys me. When I'm doing something, I tend to open a instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing. I also leave instances open and ready for when I do routine things. Some things I do so often, I leave them open all the time. Usually that is four instances. If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task. So, I use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in different places. It just makes things easier, faster and works best for me. […] >>> Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a >>> fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal >>> state. >> I saw that setting. First place I looked. Thing is, since I didn't >> want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't >> work. I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that >> place. Given you said that would work, I tried it. I set it to /, or >> root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts >> and opens the folder I clicked on. Did that a few times just to be >> sure. LOL I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the >> notification thingy to open in File Manager. Yep, it opened right where >> it should. I was looking for a instance setting or something since it >> kept copying other running instances and their tabs. I wouldn't have >> ever thought to try that setting. >> >> They might want to explain that setting a little bit. While I saw it, I >> certainly didn't expect it to behave this way. I expected it to open at >> that location no matter how Dolphin was started. > Perhaps it’s actually a bug. Even if Dolphin is supposed to restore a > previous session, it *should* open the location it is given by parameter. Well, so far it has been working fine. I've had to open a couple things and have been using instances that I have running all the time. It's working like I want it seems. >> P. S. Planning to try that checksum script soon. It's a large number >> of files so it will take a long time to run. I think you mentioned that >> if stopped, it will resume where it left off. > Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums > where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need > to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to > skip at the beginning. > > Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its > behaviour. The normal way to go is: > > dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files > dh [DIR] do read it back > Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning. > > Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that > have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a > hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago. > Well, I read through the help page and settled on this. I might have did this wrong. ;-) /root/dh -c -F 1Checksums.md5 -v Right now I have the command in /root. I just did a cd to the parent directory I wanted it to work on and then ran that command. Right now, it is working on this bit. (dir 141 of 631) and (file 8079 of 34061) It has been running for about 6 hours or so now. I think it's gonna take a while. I asked it to change the name a bit so that the checksum file would be at the top. That way if I go to a directory and want to watch every video in that directory, I can do a CTRL + A and then hold the control key and click to deselect the checksum file which should be at the top. Then start the video player. I was wondering tho, is there a way to make it put all the checksum files in one place, like a directory call checksums, and they just all go in there? Or just a single file in the parent directory? That way the files aren't in each directory. Thing is, can I still just run it on one directory if I have a suspected bad one? Your tool does a lot. So far, yet another awesome script tool. Awesome work. This should pick up on file problems easy enough. Dale :-) :-) P. S. USPS claimed my memory sticks would arrive by Wednesday. Still not there. Just says arriving late now. Should have sent via UPS or something. LOL Oh, did get some rain today. Also got some serious wind.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 08:53:17AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> Howdy, > >> > >> I use Dolphin a lot. I like it and all but recently, it started doing > >> something that annoys me. When I'm doing something, I tend to open a > >> instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing. I also leave > >> instances open and ready for when I do routine things. Some things I do > >> so often, I leave them open all the time. Usually that is four > >> instances. If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail > >> cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task. So, I > >> use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in > >> different places. It just makes things easier, faster and works best > >> for me. > >> […] > > Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a > > fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal > > state. > > I saw that setting. First place I looked. Thing is, since I didn't > want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't > work. I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that > place. Given you said that would work, I tried it. I set it to /, or > root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts > and opens the folder I clicked on. Did that a few times just to be > sure. LOL I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the > notification thingy to open in File Manager. Yep, it opened right where > it should. I was looking for a instance setting or something since it > kept copying other running instances and their tabs. I wouldn't have > ever thought to try that setting. > > They might want to explain that setting a little bit. While I saw it, I > certainly didn't expect it to behave this way. I expected it to open at > that location no matter how Dolphin was started. Perhaps it’s actually a bug. Even if Dolphin is supposed to restore a previous session, it *should* open the location it is given by parameter. > P. S. Planning to try that checksum script soon. It's a large number > of files so it will take a long time to run. I think you mentioned that > if stopped, it will resume where it left off. Only if it creates checksums, because it knows by the existence of checksums where to resume. But if you want to read checksums and verify them, you need to use arguments to tell it how many directories to process and how many to skip at the beginning. Perhaps try it first with a few small directories to get a feel for its behaviour. The normal way to go is: dh -u [DIR] to create the checksum files dh [DIR] do read it back Use the --skip option to skip the given number of dirs at the beginning. Remember that by default it will not create checksums in directories that have subdirectories. I know this sounds a little strange, but for a hierarchy of music albums, this seemed sensible 10 years ago. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Big events may cast their shadow under the eyes. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> Howdy, >> >> I use Dolphin a lot. I like it and all but recently, it started doing >> something that annoys me. When I'm doing something, I tend to open a >> instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing. I also leave >> instances open and ready for when I do routine things. Some things I do >> so often, I leave them open all the time. Usually that is four >> instances. If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail >> cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task. So, I >> use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in >> different places. It just makes things easier, faster and works best >> for me. >> >> What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy >> the last instance I used that is still open. When I open a new >> instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other >> instances that are running. Just as a example. Yesterday I was trying >> to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying >> and organizing them on my hard drive. When I put in a USB stick or the >> card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open >> the USB stick or the card. Thing is, it tries to copy the instance, >> usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs. I >> have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be >> to begin with. > Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a > fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal > state. > > -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Abolish Christmas, Joseph > confessed everything! I saw that setting. First place I looked. Thing is, since I didn't want it to always start at the same place, I thought that wouldn't work. I thought that no matter what I clicked, it would open at that place. Given you said that would work, I tried it. I set it to /, or root, but if I click on a folder on the desktop, sure enough, it starts and opens the folder I clicked on. Did that a few times just to be sure. LOL I also plugged in a USB stick, mounted it and then told the notification thingy to open in File Manager. Yep, it opened right where it should. I was looking for a instance setting or something since it kept copying other running instances and their tabs. I wouldn't have ever thought to try that setting. They might want to explain that setting a little bit. While I saw it, I certainly didn't expect it to behave this way. I expected it to open at that location no matter how Dolphin was started. I'll play with this a few days but so far, looks like a good solution. Thanks much. I can stop pulling my hair out now. Dale :-) :-) P. S. Planning to try that checksum script soon. It's a large number of files so it will take a long time to run. I think you mentioned that if stopped, it will resume where it left off. Oh, I did use rsync and checksum option on backups the other day. I couldn't check all the files tho. I just checked the ones recently accessed. It found four out of the few hundred I checked. I restored them after some testing.
Re: [gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Am Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 07:54:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > > I use Dolphin a lot. I like it and all but recently, it started doing > something that annoys me. When I'm doing something, I tend to open a > instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing. I also leave > instances open and ready for when I do routine things. Some things I do > so often, I leave them open all the time. Usually that is four > instances. If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail > cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task. So, I > use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in > different places. It just makes things easier, faster and works best > for me. > > What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy > the last instance I used that is still open. When I open a new > instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other > instances that are running. Just as a example. Yesterday I was trying > to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying > and organizing them on my hard drive. When I put in a USB stick or the > card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open > the USB stick or the card. Thing is, it tries to copy the instance, > usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs. I > have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be > to begin with. Dolphin settings, very first page, very first setting: set it to open a fixed location at startup. Then it will not restore any previous internal state. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Abolish Christmas, Joseph confessed everything! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Dolphin confusing different run instances.
Howdy, I use Dolphin a lot. I like it and all but recently, it started doing something that annoys me. When I'm doing something, I tend to open a instance of Dolphin for whatever it is I'm doing. I also leave instances open and ready for when I do routine things. Some things I do so often, I leave them open all the time. Usually that is four instances. If needed, for example when I'm getting videos off trail cameras, I open another instance until I'm done with that task. So, I use Dolphin for different things on different desktops with tabs in different places. It just makes things easier, faster and works best for me. What I don't like is this, when I open a new instance, it tries to copy the last instance I used that is still open. When I open a new instance, I want it to open where I want but not be affected by other instances that are running. Just as a example. Yesterday I was trying to copy videos from my trail cameras to a USB stick while also copying and organizing them on my hard drive. When I put in a USB stick or the card from the camera, I click the notification thing and tell it to open the USB stick or the card. Thing is, it tries to copy the instance, usually the one I use to watch TV from, which has a lot of open tabs. I have to close all the tabs I don't want to get things like it should be to begin with. I also have KDE set to save my session. When I first login with four saved instances, it creates a mess. Sometimes, it just jumbles them up. Sometimes it sort of works. It never works like it used to tho. Also, sometimes the Folder panel on the left doesn't work either. It's either blank or only has /bin and nothing else. Nothing I do gets it to work right so I have to start a new instance and close the broken one. This is fairly new and very consistent. It started a couple updates ago and I was hoping it was a bug and would be fixed. I'm starting to think it is a new feature. I've looked in preferences and can't find any setting related to this behavior. Smplayer for example has a setting for either multiple or single instances. It works the way you set it. I can't find anything similar in Dolphin tho. Anyone have any info on this? Is this the new way Dolphin works? Is there a way to disable it somewhere? Do I need to look for another file manager that behaves like I want? Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] biosdevname or equivalent for disks: did the order change on a specific, recent, kernel version?
Hi! A bit of history first: my Fedora, then (after reinstall) my openSUSE then (after reinstall) my Gentoo failed during boot. I thought it was something related to dracut so I've been adding `hostonly = false` to dracut.conf on all my home machines. In summary, yesterday it failed on my Gentoo so I had to investigate. * I had enable `unstable` use flags for the kernel only. * I hadn't double-check the boot entries created. * Power went off (no UPS yet) so I booted the new kernel. * It didn't boot. I fixed two things: changed the partition id of LUKSed swap from swap id to LVM id, to prevent systemd attempting to mount it at boot (and failing). Secondly, I checked the fstab and noticed all dev nodes were wrong (I have two SSD). * After fixing the dev nodes in fstab the system booted properly. This probably explains the Gentoo failure, since other distros (and me, starting some day) use UUID in fstab. So, my question is: Has anyone any input on mysterious failures across several distros, including Gentoo, around kernel 6.9.x <> 6.10.x?
[gentoo-user] spammer Eric
Is anybody familiar with spammer "Eric Jones"? I think he is famous.
Anyhow, he collects the input from "captcha" first. If the IP is not
blocked /doesn't get "403"
his program goes for "contact us"
Here is the log:
37.72.186.22 - - [10/Sep/2024:21:51:46 -0600] "GET
/contact_us.php%09%092024-06-17+14:07%09Ready+contact+form+successfully+found+/+Requires+captcha+input%09
http://domain.ca%09%09%09%09%09 HTTP/1.1" 404 196
37.72.186.22 - - [10/Sep/2024:21:51:47 -0600] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 28533
37.72.186.22 - - [10/Sep/2024:21:51:49 -0600] "GET /contact_us.php
HTTP/1.1" 200 25619
I created htaccess entry:
# Block specific request pattern targeting /contact_us.php
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/contact_us.php [NC]
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} "GET
/contact_us.php%09%092024-06-17+14:07%09Ready+contact+form+successfully+found+/+Requires+captcha+input%09
http://domain.ca%09%09%09%09%09 HTTP/1.1" [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [F]
but it doesn't work.
The issue likely stems from the fact that %09 (tab character) and similar
URL-encoded characters in the request may not be processed as-is by
THE_REQUEST directive in .htaccess. Apache doesn't decode these characters
automatically when matching with THE_REQUEST.
Wildcard and escaping in THE_REQUEST: Instead of directly using %09, I can
use .* (wildcards) to match anything that could appear in between different
parts of the request string.
I'll see if the belows will work:
RewriteCond %{REQUEST_URI} ^/contact_us.php [NC]
RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} "GET
/contact_us.php.*Ready\+contact\+form\+successfully\+found.*Requires\+captcha\+input.*
http://domain.ca"; [NC]
RewriteRule .* - [F]
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4
On 9/9/24 8:50 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 21:33 -0300, João Matos wrote:
>> Dear list,
>>
>> I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). It
>> requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and found
>> this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184
>
> TIL that we have a twenty-year-old libstdc++ in the tree.
>
>
>> Do you know any way of work around this? Maybe copying the binary file from
>> another distro or try to use another gcc version?
>
> It's running a test program to find the glibc minor version:
>
> #include
> main(argc, argv)
>int argc;
>char *argv[];
> {
> printf("%d\n", __GLIBC_MINOR__);
> return 0;
> }
>
> But this test program, having been written 20+ years ago, is crap. It's
> missing and a correct signature for "main" at least. Newer
> GCCs (like the one that you're using) will refuse to compile it. So the
> test fails unexpectedly, and the build stops. You might be able to
> trick it by disabling -Wimplicit-int, -Wimplicit-function-declaration,
> and whatever other warnings that program raises... but then you have to
> actually compile the rest of it with a new GCC. Good luck :)
It shouldn't be *that* hard.
https://bugs.gentoo.org/923112#c13
And as Sam noted:
"""
I concur with Eli and Enne. We should just strip it all. It's a brittle
package for ancient binaries.
"""
--
Eli Schwartz
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Resending from a different email, as I got an error sending on my main email. -- Forwarded message - De la: stefan1 Date: mar., 10 sept. 2024, 15:13 Subject: Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4 To: Stefanalexe48 Original Message Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4 Date: 2024-09-10 11:59 From: stefan1 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org On 2024-09-10 00:33, João Matos wrote: > Dear list, > > I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). > It > requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and > found > this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184 > > Do you know any way of work around this? Maybe copying the binary file > from > another distro or try to use another gcc version? > > Thank you, Hi. I don't know if you tried, but passing -fpermissive via /etc/portage/env is not enough. You need to write wrapper scripts to get around the gcc14 issue. > $ cat /usr/bin/cc > #!/bin/sh > > exec cc.real -fpermissive "$@" > > $ cat /usr/bin/gcc > #!/bin/sh > > exec gcc.real -fpermissive "$@" > > $ cat /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-cc > #!/bin/sh > > exec x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-cc.real -fpermissive "$@" > > $ cat /usr/bin/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc > #!/bin/sh > > exec x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc.real -fpermissive "$@" > where the original files were moved to the .real files. -- Linux-gentoo-x86_64-Intel-R-_Core-TM-_i5-7400_CPU_@_3.00GHz COMMON_FLAGS="-O3 -pipe -march=native -fno-stack-protector -ftree-vectorize -ffast-math -funswitch-loops -fuse-linker-plugin -flto -fdevirtualize-at-ltrans -fno-plt -fno-semantic-interposition -falign-functions=64 -fgraphite-identity -floop-nest-optimize" USE="-* git verify-sig rsync-verify man alsa X grub ssl ipv6 lto libressl olde-gentoo asm native-symlinks threads jit jumbo-build minimal strip system-man" INSTALL_MASK="/etc/systemd /lib/systemd /usr/lib/systemd /usr/lib/modules-load.d /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d *tmpfiles* /var/lib/dbus /lib/udev /usr/share/icons /usr/share/applications /usr/share/gtk-3.0/emoji"
Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4
> TIL that we have a twenty-year-old libstdc++ in the tree.
Maybe we should mask it?
It is supossed to work with gcc <3.4 and the oldest we have is 8.5.0, which is
masked already.
Original Message
On 9/10/24 02:50, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
> On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 21:33 -0300, João Matos wrote:
> > Dear list,
> >
> > I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). It
> > requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and found
> > this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184
>
> TIL that we have a twenty-year-old libstdc++ in the tree.
>
>
> > Do you know any way of work around this? Maybe copying the binary file from
> > another distro or try to use another gcc version?
>
> It's running a test program to find the glibc minor version:
>
>#include
>main(argc, argv)
> int argc;
> char *argv[];
>{
> printf("%d\n", __GLIBC_MINOR__);
> return 0;
>}
>
> But this test program, having been written 20+ years ago, is crap. It's
> missing and a correct signature for "main" at least. Newer
> GCCs (like the one that you're using) will refuse to compile it. So the
> test fails unexpectedly, and the build stops. You might be able to
> trick it by disabling -Wimplicit-int, -Wimplicit-function-declaration,
> and whatever other warnings that program raises... but then you have to
> actually compile the rest of it with a new GCC. Good luck :)
>
>
>
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4
On Mon, 2024-09-09 at 21:33 -0300, João Matos wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). It
> requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and found
> this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184
TIL that we have a twenty-year-old libstdc++ in the tree.
> Do you know any way of work around this? Maybe copying the binary file from
> another distro or try to use another gcc version?
It's running a test program to find the glibc minor version:
#include
main(argc, argv)
int argc;
char *argv[];
{
printf("%d\n", __GLIBC_MINOR__);
return 0;
}
But this test program, having been written 20+ years ago, is crap. It's
missing and a correct signature for "main" at least. Newer
GCCs (like the one that you're using) will refuse to compile it. So the
test fails unexpectedly, and the build stops. You might be able to
trick it by disabling -Wimplicit-int, -Wimplicit-function-declaration,
and whatever other warnings that program raises... but then you have to
actually compile the rest of it with a new GCC. Good luck :)
[gentoo-user] Bug 919184 - sys-libs/libstdc++-v3-3.3.6-r4
Dear list, I'm trying to install the Checkpoint client for linux (cshell_install). It requires sys-libs/libstdc++-v3, 32 bits. I couldn't compile it and found this bug: https://bugs.gentoo.org/919184 Do you know any way of work around this? Maybe copying the binary file from another distro or try to use another gcc version? Thank you, -- Neto
[gentoo-user] Re: Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?
On 2024-09-09, Jack wrote: > On 9/8/24 10:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad >> buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely >> worked: the response was slow and jerky with a noticeable delay. >> >> In order to get it working again, I had to enable some rmi4 stuff in >> my kernel config: >>[...] >> Apparently, it used to work as a PS/2 mouse, but then it "just quit", >> and I hand to enable rmi4 SMBus support. >>[...] >> As I said, I've got it working again, but I'm baffled what caused it >> to stop working. > > Any chance some internal connection has come loose? How old is the > laptop? I'd probably suspect hardware before software, but I wouldn't > put money on anything. It's a bit less than 5 years old and has been very lightly used. It only leaves the house maybe a half-dozen times a year. I'd probably put my money down on the spot marked "Microsoft's Fault", but I've got no real theory as to why that would be unless a recent Windows update somehow changed a BIOS setting for Synaptics PS/2 compatiblity. [I never got to the point of messing with BIOS settings.] -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?
On 9/8/24 10:20 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely worked: the response was slow and jerky with a noticeable delay. In order to get it working again, I had to enable some rmi4 stuff in my kernel config: < # CONFIG_RMI4_CORE is not set --- > CONFIG_RMI4_CORE=y > # CONFIG_RMI4_I2C is not set > CONFIG_RMI4_SMB=m > CONFIG_RMI4_F03=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F03_SERIO=y > CONFIG_RMI4_2D_SENSOR=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F11=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F12=y > # CONFIG_RMI4_F30 is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F34 is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F3A is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F55 is not set Apparently, it used to work as a PS/2 mouse, but then it "just quit", and I hand to enable rmi4 SMBus support. The Gentoo Wiki page didn't mention the rmi4 options and instead said to enable some I2C HID stuff that didn't seem to be relevent for my hardware. There was a dmsg message that pointed me towards the rmi4 options. What's really bugging me is why did it quit working? Nothing relevent seems to have been updated recently: 1725658908: >>> emerge (1 of 6) dev-libs/libffi-3.4.6 to / 1725658926: >>> emerge (2 of 6) dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.78.1-r1 to / 1725658987: >>> emerge (3 of 6) media-libs/graphene-1.10.8-r1 to / 1725659006: >>> emerge (4 of 6) gui-libs/gtk-4.12.5-r2 to / 1725659219: >>> emerge (5 of 6) app-crypt/gcr-4.2.1 to / 1725659258: >>> emerge (6 of 6) app-crypt/pinentry-1.3.0-r3 to / 1725762247: >>> emerge (1 of 7) sys-firmware/intel-microcode-20240813_p20240815 to / 1725762261: >>> emerge (2 of 7) dev-python/jaraco-context-6.0.1 to / 1725762273: >>> emerge (3 of 7) dev-python/setuptools-73.0.1 to / 1725762292: >>> emerge (4 of 7) dev-python/idna-3.8 to / 1725762305: >>> emerge (5 of 7) dev-python/truststore-0.9.2 to / 1725762317: >>> emerge (6 of 7) gui-libs/gtk-4.14.4-r1 to / 1725762557: >>> emerge (7 of 7) www-client/google-chrome-128.0.6613.119 to / I did boot into Windows yesterday at one point, but I do that fairly regularly (a few times a month) and it has never caused any problems in the past. As I said, I've got it working again, but I'm baffled what caused it to stop working. -- Grant Any chance some internal connection has come loose? How old is the laptop? I'd probably suspect hardware before software, but I wouldn't put money on anything.
[gentoo-user] Why did Synaptics touchpad stop working?
This morning when I booted my Thinkpad T580, the Synaptics touchpad buttons didn't work at all, and the "pointer" function just barely worked: the response was slow and jerky with a noticeable delay. In order to get it working again, I had to enable some rmi4 stuff in my kernel config: < # CONFIG_RMI4_CORE is not set --- > CONFIG_RMI4_CORE=y > # CONFIG_RMI4_I2C is not set > CONFIG_RMI4_SMB=m > CONFIG_RMI4_F03=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F03_SERIO=y > CONFIG_RMI4_2D_SENSOR=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F11=y > CONFIG_RMI4_F12=y > # CONFIG_RMI4_F30 is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F34 is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F3A is not set > # CONFIG_RMI4_F55 is not set Apparently, it used to work as a PS/2 mouse, but then it "just quit", and I hand to enable rmi4 SMBus support. The Gentoo Wiki page didn't mention the rmi4 options and instead said to enable some I2C HID stuff that didn't seem to be relevent for my hardware. There was a dmsg message that pointed me towards the rmi4 options. What's really bugging me is why did it quit working? Nothing relevent seems to have been updated recently: 1725658908: >>> emerge (1 of 6) dev-libs/libffi-3.4.6 to / 1725658926: >>> emerge (2 of 6) dev-libs/gobject-introspection-1.78.1-r1 to / 1725658987: >>> emerge (3 of 6) media-libs/graphene-1.10.8-r1 to / 1725659006: >>> emerge (4 of 6) gui-libs/gtk-4.12.5-r2 to / 1725659219: >>> emerge (5 of 6) app-crypt/gcr-4.2.1 to / 1725659258: >>> emerge (6 of 6) app-crypt/pinentry-1.3.0-r3 to / 1725762247: >>> emerge (1 of 7) sys-firmware/intel-microcode-20240813_p20240815 to / 1725762261: >>> emerge (2 of 7) dev-python/jaraco-context-6.0.1 to / 1725762273: >>> emerge (3 of 7) dev-python/setuptools-73.0.1 to / 1725762292: >>> emerge (4 of 7) dev-python/idna-3.8 to / 1725762305: >>> emerge (5 of 7) dev-python/truststore-0.9.2 to / 1725762317: >>> emerge (6 of 7) gui-libs/gtk-4.14.4-r1 to / 1725762557: >>> emerge (7 of 7) www-client/google-chrome-128.0.6613.119 to / I did boot into Windows yesterday at one point, but I do that fairly regularly (a few times a month) and it has never caused any problems in the past. As I said, I've got it working again, but I'm baffled what caused it to stop working. -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On 08/09/2024 10:15, Michael wrote: The placement of DIMMs depends on the MoBo, its manual would show in which slot should DIMM modules be added and the (maximum) size of each stick the MoBo can cope with. Normally OEMs provide a list of tested memory brands and models for their MoBos (QVL) and it is recommended to buy something on the list, rather than improvise. Both old and new mobos are, iirc, 4 x 32GB, and they just swapped the RAM over. But again iirc, the new mobo they supplied had two colours of ram slots, something like "black, red, black, red". To me that's obvious - both sticks in one colour! So - and I guess it was an apprentice who didn't know what he was doing - just shoved the ram in the first two slots. Two major blunders from a shop - a brand new mobo won't boot - the FIRST suspect is an out-of-date bios. And then the second blunder - don't check the ram is in the right slots. That's one shop I certainly won't visit again. (The only reason I asked a shop to fix it was because I didn't have an old chip so couldn't boot the board to upgrade the bios to work with the chip I had ...) Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Sunday 8 September 2024 02:59:04 BST Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 04/09/2024 01:39, Dale wrote: > >> I've seen that before too. I'm hoping not. I may shutdown my rig, > >> remove and reinstall the memory and then test it for a bit. May be a > >> bad connection. It has worked well for the past couple months tho. > >> Still, it is possible to either be a bad connection or just going bad. > > > > I've had *MOST* of my self-built systems force me to remove and > > replace the ram several times before the system was happy. > > > > And when a shop "fixed" my computer for me (replacing a mobo that > > wasn't broken - I told them I thought it needed a bios upgrade and I > > was right!) they also messed up the ram. Memory is supposed to go in > > in matched pairs. So what do they do? One stick in each pair of slots > > - the thing ran like a sloth on tranquillisers! As soon as I realised > > what they'd done and put both sticks in the same pair, it was MUCH > > faster. > > > > Cheers, > > Wol > > I noticed on the set I had to return, the serial numbers were in > sequence. One was right after the other. I don't know if that makes > them a matched set or if they run some test to match them. Both. They run a test, if one fails in their hands as opposed to yours, they pick up the next module and test that. So you typically end up with numbers in a matched kit which are close enough. > From my understanding tho, each 'bank' or pair has to be a matched set. > I did finally find a set of four but it is a different brand. From what > I read to tho, ASUS trains itself each time you boot up. It finds the > best setting for each set of memory. It does say that it is usually set > to a slower speed tho when all four are installed. It depends if your MoBo comes with 'daisy chain' or 'T topology' RAM slot configuration. Most consumer grade come with 'daisy chain' configuration and ASUS may also have an "Optimem" function/feature as they call it. With 'daisy chain' you should achieve higher max. frequency if you fit 2 matched DIMMs in the slots the manual suggests (typically B2 & A2), than if you fit 4 DIMMs to achieve the same total RAM size. With 'T topology' you'll achieve a lower frequency with 2 DIMMs, but a higher frequency with 4 DIMMs at the same total RAM size, than you would with a 'daisy chain' MoBo. The ASUS "Optimem" is some automagic run by the firmware of their 'daisy chain' MoBos in terms of voltage and signal sequencing, to do the best job it can when you have 4 DIMMs installed. > Just have to wait > and see I guess. Oh, when I boot the first couple times with new > memory, it takes quite a bit longer on the BIOS boot screen. After a > couple times, it doesn't seem to take so long. Not sure what, but it > does something. The memory controller on the CPU probes the memory module(s) by varying voltage and latency until it achieves a reliable result. If you have enabled DOCP as advised here and if provided in the BIOS also selected the RAM frequency of the DIMMs you bought, then the probing ought to take less time: https://www.asus.com/support/faq/1042256/ Unless ... there's something wrong with the system (power, faulty RAM modules, buggy BIOS, etc.). signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Saturday 7 September 2024 23:48:43 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 05/09/2024 23:06, Michael wrote: > > There is also dm-verity for a more involved solution. I think for Dale > > something like this should work: > Snag is, I think dm-verity (or do you actually mean dm-integrity, which > is what I use) merely checks that what you read from disk is what you > wrote to disk. If the ram corrupted it before it was written, I don't > think either of them will detect it. > > Cheers, > Wol My bad, apologies, dm-verity is used to verify the boot path and deals with read-only fs. With FEC it would also be able to recover from some limited data corruption. I meant to write *dm-integrity*! Thanks for correcting me. Either way, if the data being written is corrupted due to faulty RAM, the result will be corrupted too. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Saturday 7 September 2024 23:12:41 BST Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/09/2024 01:39, Dale wrote: > > I've seen that before too. I'm hoping not. I may shutdown my rig, > > remove and reinstall the memory and then test it for a bit. May be a > > bad connection. It has worked well for the past couple months tho. > > Still, it is possible to either be a bad connection or just going bad. > > I've had *MOST* of my self-built systems force me to remove and replace > the ram several times before the system was happy. > > And when a shop "fixed" my computer for me (replacing a mobo that wasn't > broken - I told them I thought it needed a bios upgrade and I was > right!) they also messed up the ram. Memory is supposed to go in in > matched pairs. So what do they do? One stick in each pair of slots - the > thing ran like a sloth on tranquillisers! The placement of DIMMs depends on the MoBo, its manual would show in which slot should DIMM modules be added and the (maximum) size of each stick the MoBo can cope with. Normally OEMs provide a list of tested memory brands and models for their MoBos (QVL) and it is recommended to buy something on the list, rather than improvise. On ASUS MoBos with 4 slots and 2 DIMMs it is recommended you use slot B2 for one module, slots B2 and A2 for a pair of matched modules and the the remaining two slots A1 & B1 for a second pair of matched modules. So, what the shop did would be reasonable, unless the MoBo OEM asked for a different configuration. > As soon as I realised what > they'd done and put both sticks in the same pair, it was MUCH faster. > > Cheers, > Wol Sometimes, you have to place only one module of a matched pair in and boot the system, let the firmware probe and test the DIMM, before you shut it down to add more memory to it. Whenever RAM does not behave as it should when installing it, it is a prompt for me to go back to the OEM manual for guidance on the peculiarities of their product. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Wols Lists wrote: > On 04/09/2024 01:39, Dale wrote: >> I've seen that before too. I'm hoping not. I may shutdown my rig, >> remove and reinstall the memory and then test it for a bit. May be a >> bad connection. It has worked well for the past couple months tho. >> Still, it is possible to either be a bad connection or just going bad. > > I've had *MOST* of my self-built systems force me to remove and > replace the ram several times before the system was happy. > > And when a shop "fixed" my computer for me (replacing a mobo that > wasn't broken - I told them I thought it needed a bios upgrade and I > was right!) they also messed up the ram. Memory is supposed to go in > in matched pairs. So what do they do? One stick in each pair of slots > - the thing ran like a sloth on tranquillisers! As soon as I realised > what they'd done and put both sticks in the same pair, it was MUCH > faster. > > Cheers, > Wol > > I noticed on the set I had to return, the serial numbers were in sequence. One was right after the other. I don't know if that makes them a matched set or if they run some test to match them. >From my understanding tho, each 'bank' or pair has to be a matched set. I did finally find a set of four but it is a different brand. From what I read to tho, ASUS trains itself each time you boot up. It finds the best setting for each set of memory. It does say that it is usually set to a slower speed tho when all four are installed. Just have to wait and see I guess. Oh, when I boot the first couple times with new memory, it takes quite a bit longer on the BIOS boot screen. After a couple times, it doesn't seem to take so long. Not sure what, but it does something. This new way sure is strange. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On 05/09/2024 23:06, Michael wrote: There is also dm-verity for a more involved solution. I think for Dale something like this should work: Snag is, I think dm-verity (or do you actually mean dm-integrity, which is what I use) merely checks that what you read from disk is what you wrote to disk. If the ram corrupted it before it was written, I don't think either of them will detect it. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On 04/09/2024 01:39, Dale wrote: I've seen that before too. I'm hoping not. I may shutdown my rig, remove and reinstall the memory and then test it for a bit. May be a bad connection. It has worked well for the past couple months tho. Still, it is possible to either be a bad connection or just going bad. I've had *MOST* of my self-built systems force me to remove and replace the ram several times before the system was happy. And when a shop "fixed" my computer for me (replacing a mobo that wasn't broken - I told them I thought it needed a bios upgrade and I was right!) they also messed up the ram. Memory is supposed to go in in matched pairs. So what do they do? One stick in each pair of slots - the thing ran like a sloth on tranquillisers! As soon as I realised what they'd done and put both sticks in the same pair, it was MUCH faster. Cheers, Wol
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Fri, Sep 6, 2024 at 2:42 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 01:21:20PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > > > > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > > > > > > > then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: > > > > > > > > md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > > I had a quick look at the manpage: with md5sum --quiet you can omit the grep > part. > > > > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python > > > > script to do the same at speed. > > And that is exactly what I have written for myself over the last 11 years. I > call it dh (short for dirhash). As I described in the previous mail, I use > it to create one hash files per directory. But it also supports one hash > file per data file and – a rather new feature – one hash file at the root of > a tree. Have a look here: https://github.com/felf/dh > Clone the repo or simply download the one file and put it into your path. > Thanks for sharing this Frank. Much appreciated. Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Sat, Sep 07, 2024 at 10:37:04AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > On Friday 6 September 2024 22:41:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever > > > > > python > > > > > script to do the same at speed. > > > > And that is exactly what I have written for myself over the last 11 years. I > > call it dh (short for dirhash). As I described in the previous mail, I use > > it to create one hash files per directory. But it also supports one hash > > file per data file and – a rather new feature – one hash file at the root > > of a tree. Have a look here: https://github.com/felf/dh > > Clone the repo or simply download the one file and put it into your path. > > Nice! I've tested it briefly here. You've put quite some effort into this. > Thank you Frank! > > Probably not your use case, but I wonder how it can be used to compare SOURCE > to DESTINATION where SOURCE is the original fs and DESTINATION is some > backup, > without having to copy over manually all different directory/subdirectory > Checksums.md5 files. When I have this problem, I usually diff the checksum files with mc or vim, because I don’t usually have to check many directories and files. You could use Krusader, a two-panel file manager. This has a synchronise tool with a file filter, so you synchronize two sides, check for file content and filter for *.md5. > I suppose rsync can be used for the comparison to a backup fs anyway, your > script would be duplicating a function unnecessarily. I believe rsync is capable of only syncing only files that match a pattern. But it was not very easy to achieve, I think. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. They say that memory is the second thing to go... I forgot what the first thing was. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Perl-cleaner --reallall
On Saturday 7 September 2024 16:27:41 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > Greetings, > > A recent thread here reminded me of this utility, and I've run it on four > machines since the latest perl update. In three cases it all went > swimmingly, but on the fourth it tried its damnedest to remerge dbus with > USE=systemd, and so start converting the whole system to systemd. This > system is almost identical to one of the others. Ugh! > I had to put sys-apps/systemd into package.mask, after which perl-cleaner > ran OK, but emerge -c stumbled over nine packages wanting > 'dev-lang/perl:0/5.38=', which was the previous version. Next I remerged > those nine, after which emerge -c removed 98 packages! Most of those seemed > to be useful only on a GUI system, which this one doesn't have (and those > 98 shouldn't have been present anyway), so I let it go ahead. The long > neglected (here) revdep-rebuild didn't want to rebuild anything. > > I really dislike mysteries. Did you run: grep systemd -r /etc/portage/ to find out if some USE="systemd" had sneaked in there? Normally a non- systemd installation would have USE="-systemd" in /etc/portage/make.conf. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] Perl-cleaner --reallall
Greetings, A recent thread here reminded me of this utility, and I've run it on four machines since the latest perl update. In three cases it all went swimmingly, but on the fourth it tried its damnedest to remerge dbus with USE=systemd, and so start converting the whole system to systemd. This system is almost identical to one of the others. I had to put sys-apps/systemd into package.mask, after which perl-cleaner ran OK, but emerge -c stumbled over nine packages wanting 'dev-lang/perl:0/5.38=', which was the previous version. Next I remerged those nine, after which emerge -c removed 98 packages! Most of those seemed to be useful only on a GUI system, which this one doesn't have (and those 98 shouldn't have been present anyway), so I let it go ahead. The long neglected (here) revdep-rebuild didn't want to rebuild anything. I really dislike mysteries. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On Friday 6 September 2024 20:37:59 BST Jack wrote: > On 2024.09.06 11:12, Michael wrote: > > [snip ] > > > The second problem I started this thread with, related to the Kmail > > composer window inheriting the main Kmail window size and vice versa, > > seems to occur because both windows are identified having the same > > "kmail org.kde.kmail2" named Class. I played around with various > > properties, like window type and what not, but I have not been able > > to add a separate window size for the composer alone without > > affecting the main Kmail window. If anyone comes up with a working > > solution please chime in! > > I haven't been following very closely, but it sound like one approach > would be to have one of the windows use a different name Class. Might > it be worth raising as an issue for kmail itself? I understood the Window Class of an application is hard coded, all a user like me can do is select it. I can't claim to understand this correctly, or furthermore understand how the X11 properties transpose over to a Wayland desktop: https://www.x.org/releases/current/doc/xorg-docs/icccm/ icccm.html#WM_CLASS_Property Either way, the good news is others have been annoyed similarly by this behaviour and raised a bug report. It seems to be a regression bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=484327 signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Friday 6 September 2024 22:41:33 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 01:21:20PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > > > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > > > > > > > then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: > > > > > > > > md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > > I had a quick look at the manpage: with md5sum --quiet you can omit the grep > part. Good catch. You can tell I didn't spend much effort to come up with this. ;-) > > > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever > > > > python > > > > script to do the same at speed. > > And that is exactly what I have written for myself over the last 11 years. I > call it dh (short for dirhash). As I described in the previous mail, I use > it to create one hash files per directory. But it also supports one hash > file per data file and – a rather new feature – one hash file at the root > of a tree. Have a look here: https://github.com/felf/dh > Clone the repo or simply download the one file and put it into your path. Nice! I've tested it briefly here. You've put quite some effort into this. Thank you Frank! Probably not your use case, but I wonder how it can be used to compare SOURCE to DESTINATION where SOURCE is the original fs and DESTINATION is some backup, without having to copy over manually all different directory/subdirectory Checksums.md5 files. I suppose rsync can be used for the comparison to a backup fs anyway, your script would be duplicating a function unnecessarily. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Michael wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 21:15:32 BST Dale wrote: > >> Update. New memory sticks i bought came in today. I ran memtest from >> Gentoo Live boot media and it passed. Of course, the last pair passed >> when new too so let's hope this one lasts longer. Much longer. > Run each new stick on its own overnight. Some times errors do not show up > until a few full cycles of tests have been run. I've already booted into my OS now. So far, it's seems OK. Of course, the last ones didn't fail for a few months. I can't test that long anyway. ;-) At least they not bad out of the box. At first test anyway. I think the way the tests run now, it runs several different tests on each section looking for it to return a incorrect result. I think I saw it say 10 tests or something. The memtest I used was on the Gentoo Live image from a few months ago. It tests 1GB at a time. Takes a while to complete each test. I know there are many ways to test memory tho. I don't recall ever having a stick of memory to go bad before. For some old junk rigs that are pretty much to old to care, I've put some cheap brands in them and they still worked. Oh, one of my f's returned a 7. I took a picture. I printed it and included it with the memory. That way they may can tell where to start their test. It was right at 7GB mark. I did start the return process. I filled out a online form and they sent me a email a few hours later with a RMA. I got a label printed and boxed it up. I'll go to the post office tomorrow. It'll take several days to get there tho. No idea on how long it takes G.Skill to turn it around. Then it has to slide all the way back to me. I figure two weeks for shipping alone. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Friday 6 September 2024 21:15:32 BST Dale wrote: > Update. New memory sticks i bought came in today. I ran memtest from > Gentoo Live boot media and it passed. Of course, the last pair passed > when new too so let's hope this one lasts longer. Much longer. Run each new stick on its own overnight. Some times errors do not show up until a few full cycles of tests have been run. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Fri, Sep 06, 2024 at 01:21:20PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > > > > > then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: > > > > > > md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED I had a quick look at the manpage: with md5sum --quiet you can omit the grep part. > > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python > > > script to do the same at speed. And that is exactly what I have written for myself over the last 11 years. I call it dh (short for dirhash). As I described in the previous mail, I use it to create one hash files per directory. But it also supports one hash file per data file and – a rather new feature – one hash file at the root of a tree. Have a look here: https://github.com/felf/dh Clone the repo or simply download the one file and put it into your path. > > I'll be honest here, on two points. I'd really like to be able to do > > this but I have no idea where to or how to even start. My setup for > > series type videos. In a parent directory, where I'd like a tool to > > start, is about 600 directories. On a few occasions, there is another > > directory inside that one. That directory under the parent is the name > > of the series. In its default, my tool ignores directories which have subdirectories. It only hashes files in dirs that have no subdirs (leaves in the tree). But this can be overridden with the -f option. My tool also has an option to skip a number of directories and to process only a certain number of directories. > > Sometimes I have a sub directory that has temp files; > > new files I have yet to rename, considering replacing in the main series > > directory etc. I wouldn't mind having a file with a checksum for each > > video in the top directory, and even one in the sub directory. As a > > example. > > > > TV_Series/ > > > > ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) > > │ └── torrent > > ├── Adam-12 (1968) > > ├── Airwolf (1984) So with my tool you would do $ dh -f -F all TV_Series `-F all` causes a checksum file to be created for each data file. > > What > > I'd like, a program that would generate checksums for each file under > > say 77 Sunset and it could skip or include the directory under it. Unfortunately I don’t have a skip feature yet that skips specific directories. I could add a feature that looks for a marker file and then skips that directory (and its subdirs). > > Might be best if I could switch it on or off. Obviously, I may not want > > to do this for my whole system. I'd like to be able to target > > directories. I have another large directory, lets say not a series but > > sometimes has remakes, that I'd also like to do. It is kinda set up > > like the above, parent directory with a directory underneath and on > > occasion one more under that. > > As an example, let's assume you have the following fs tree: > > VIDEO > ├──TV_Series/ > | ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) > | │ └── torrent > | ├── Adam-12 (1968) > | ├── Airwolf (1984) > | > ├──Documentaries > ├──Films > ├──etc. > > You could run: > > $ find VIDEO -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > The file digest.log will contain md5sum hashes of each of your files within > the VIDEO directory and its subdirectories. > > To check if any of these files have changed, become corrupted, etc. you can > run: > > $ md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > > If you want to compare the contents of the same VIDEO directory on a back up, > you can copy the same digest file with its hashes over to the backup top > directory and run again: > > $ md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED My tool does this as well. ;-) In check mode, it recurses, looks for hash files and if it finds them, checks all hashes. There is also an option to only check paths and filenames, not hashes. This allows to quickly find files that have been renamed or deleted since the hash file was created. > > One thing I worry about is not just memory problems, drive failure but > > also just some random error or even bit rot. Some of these files are > > rarely changed or even touched. I'd like a way to detect problems and > > there may even be a software tool that does this with some setup, > > reminds me of Kbackup where you can select what to backup or leave out > > on a directory or even individual file level. Well that could be covered with ZFS, especially with a redundant pool so it can repair itself. Otherwise it will only identify the bitrot, but not be able to fix it. > > Right now, I suspect my backup copy is likely better than my main copy. The problem is: if they differ, how do you know which one is good apart from watching one from start to finish? You could use vbindiff to first find the part that changed. That will at least tell you where the difference is, so you could seek to the area of the position in the video. > This should work in rsync terms: > > rsync -v --checksum
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2024-09-03, Dale wrote: >> >>> I was trying to re-emerge some packages. The ones I was working on >>> failed with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault" or similar >>> being the common reason for failing. >> In my experience, that usually means failing RAM. I'd try running >> memtest86 for a day or two. >> >> -- >> Grant > I've seen that before too. I'm hoping not. I may shutdown my rig, > remove and reinstall the memory and then test it for a bit. May be a > bad connection. It has worked well for the past couple months tho. > Still, it is possible to either be a bad connection or just going bad. > > Dang those memory sticks ain't cheap. o_~ > > Thanks. See if anyone else has any other ideas. > > Dale > > :-) :-) > Update. New memory sticks i bought came in today. I ran memtest from Gentoo Live boot media and it passed. Of course, the last pair passed when new too so let's hope this one lasts longer. Much longer. Now to start the warranty swap process. :/ Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On 2024.09.06 11:12, Michael wrote: [snip ] The second problem I started this thread with, related to the Kmail composer window inheriting the main Kmail window size and vice versa, seems to occur because both windows are identified having the same "kmail org.kde.kmail2" named Class. I played around with various properties, like window type and what not, but I have not been able to add a separate window size for the composer alone without affecting the main Kmail window. If anyone comes up with a working solution please chime in! I haven't been following very closely, but it sound like one approach would be to have one of the windows use a different name Class. Might it be worth raising as an issue for kmail itself?
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On Friday 6 September 2024 12:40:25 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Friday 6 September 2024 12:04:08 BST Dale wrote: > >> I might add, another odd thing that started after a recent update. When > >> I logout of KDE or when first booting and am on the sddm login screen, > >> my first monitor powers off. The second monitor stays on and has the > >> login screen as does the TV screen. Yet the primary screen turns off. > >> At first when we got past the wonky monitor problem, all three would > >> stay on and mirror each other. Now it doesn't. > >> > >> I might add, if I switch to a console, screen one turns back on and all > >> three mirror each other. I kinda like that because if I need to do > >> something that takes a bit, I don't have to go to the living room to > >> turn the TV back on again. > > > > It sounds as if the primary monitor is using DPMS in Xorg, if you're > > running X, or some similar energy saving feature. Check SystemSettings > > > Power Management > Display and Brightness. > > You may be on to something. I have DPMS enabled on my two main monitors > but not the TV. That said, I had my monitors set to not turn off. I > did that the other day so that they would stay on while I was doing my > emerge -e world. I wanted to keep a eye on it in case something failed > and the emerge stopped. > > Should I have DPMS set to on or turn them all off in xorg.conf? I'm > thinking on. Thursday a week ago tho, everything turned off when I > locked the screen, TV as well. It seems it can turn things off even > without DPMS. > > > Meanwhile back at the ranch, I think my Gkrellm dock panel problem is > > related to KDE 6 not identifying the Gkrellm window as a 'dock/panel', > > probably because the Gtk2 code is far too old to integrate with Plasma. > > :-( > This is bad. It's a sign gkrellm might stop working. I hope someone > who can code will update and keep gkrellm alive and going. I'd hate to > see that go away. That's a awesome tool that is impossible to replace. > I don't know of anything that comes close. > > Dale > > :-) :-) The second problem I started this thread with, related to the Kmail composer window inheriting the main Kmail window size and vice versa, seems to occur because both windows are identified having the same "kmail org.kde.kmail2" named Class. I played around with various properties, like window type and what not, but I have not been able to add a separate window size for the composer alone without affecting the main Kmail window. If anyone comes up with a working solution please chime in! signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Friday 6 September 2024 01:43:18 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 5 September 2024 19:55:56 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > >> Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:54AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Use rsync with: > --checksum > > and > > --dry-run > >> > >> I suggest calculating a checksum file from your active files. Then you > >> don’t have to read the files over and over for each backup iteration you > >> compare it against. > >> > You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the > period you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run > for too long before you spotted it. > >> > >> This. No need to check everything you ever stored. Just the most recent > >> stuff, or at maximum, since you got the new PC. > >> > >>> I have just shy of 45,000 files in 780 directories or so. Almost 6,000 > >>> in another. Some files are small, some are several GBs or so. Thing > >>> is, backups go from a single parent directory if you will. Plus, I'd > >>> want to compare them all anyway. Just to be sure. > >> > >> I aqcuired the habit of writing checksum files in all my media > >> directories > >> such as music albums, tv series and such, whenever I create one such > >> directory. That way even years later I can still check whether the files > >> are intact. I actually experienced broken music files from time to time > >> (mostly on the MicroSD card in my tablet). So with checksum files, I can > >> verify which file is bad and which (on another machine) is still good. > > > > There is also dm-verity for a more involved solution. I think for Dale > > something like this should work: > > > > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > > > then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: > > > > md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > > > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python > > script to do the same at speed. > > I'll be honest here, on two points. I'd really like to be able to do > this but I have no idea where to or how to even start. My setup for > series type videos. In a parent directory, where I'd like a tool to > start, is about 600 directories. On a few occasions, there is another > directory inside that one. That directory under the parent is the name > of the series. Sometimes I have a sub directory that has temp files; > new files I have yet to rename, considering replacing in the main series > directory etc. I wouldn't mind having a file with a checksum for each > video in the top directory, and even one in the sub directory. As a > example. > > TV_Series/ > > ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) > │ └── torrent > ├── Adam-12 (1968) > ├── Airwolf (1984) > > > I got a part of the output of tree. The directory 'torrent' under 77 > Sunset is temporary usually but sometimes a directory is there for > videos about the making of a video, history of it or something. What > I'd like, a program that would generate checksums for each file under > say 77 Sunset and it could skip or include the directory under it. > Might be best if I could switch it on or off. Obviously, I may not want > to do this for my whole system. I'd like to be able to target > directories. I have another large directory, lets say not a series but > sometimes has remakes, that I'd also like to do. It is kinda set up > like the above, parent directory with a directory underneath and on > occasion one more under that. As an example, let's assume you have the following fs tree: VIDEO ├──TV_Series/ | ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) | │ └── torrent | ├── Adam-12 (1968) | ├── Airwolf (1984) | ├──Documentaries ├──Films ├──etc. You could run: $ find VIDEO -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log The file digest.log will contain md5sum hashes of each of your files within the VIDEO directory and its subdirectories. To check if any of these files have changed, become corrupted, etc. you can run: $ md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED If you want to compare the contents of the same VIDEO directory on a back up, you can copy the same digest file with its hashes over to the backup top directory and run again: $ md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED Any files listed with "FAILED" next to them have changed since the backup was originally created. Any files with "FAILED open or read" have been deleted, or are inaccessible. You don't have to use md5sum, you can use sha1sum, sha256sum, etc. but md5sum will be quicker. The probability of ending up with a hash clash across two files must be very small. You can save the digest file with a date, PC name, top directory name next to it, to make it easy to identify when it was created and its origin. Especially useful if you move it across systems. > One thing I worry about is not just memory problems, drive failure but > also just some random error or even bit rot. Some of these files are > rarel
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Michael wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 12:04:08 BST Dale wrote: > >> I might add, another odd thing that started after a recent update. When >> I logout of KDE or when first booting and am on the sddm login screen, >> my first monitor powers off. The second monitor stays on and has the >> login screen as does the TV screen. Yet the primary screen turns off. >> At first when we got past the wonky monitor problem, all three would >> stay on and mirror each other. Now it doesn't. >> >> I might add, if I switch to a console, screen one turns back on and all >> three mirror each other. I kinda like that because if I need to do >> something that takes a bit, I don't have to go to the living room to >> turn the TV back on again. > It sounds as if the primary monitor is using DPMS in Xorg, if you're running > X, or some similar energy saving feature. Check SystemSettings > Power > Management > Display and Brightness. You may be on to something. I have DPMS enabled on my two main monitors but not the TV. That said, I had my monitors set to not turn off. I did that the other day so that they would stay on while I was doing my emerge -e world. I wanted to keep a eye on it in case something failed and the emerge stopped. Should I have DPMS set to on or turn them all off in xorg.conf? I'm thinking on. Thursday a week ago tho, everything turned off when I locked the screen, TV as well. It seems it can turn things off even without DPMS. > Meanwhile back at the ranch, I think my Gkrellm dock panel problem is related > to KDE 6 not identifying the Gkrellm window as a 'dock/panel', probably > because the Gtk2 code is far too old to integrate with Plasma. :-( > > This is bad. It's a sign gkrellm might stop working. I hope someone who can code will update and keep gkrellm alive and going. I'd hate to see that go away. That's a awesome tool that is impossible to replace. I don't know of anything that comes close. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Friday 6 September 2024 11:41:03 BST Michael wrote: > You could have inadvertently cleaned this package from your > /var/lib/portage/ world, or unmerged it for some reason. No, nothing like that. The sources and config files were all present, but the extra_firmware entries had been deleted. I know I'm getting a bit old for all this, but how can I inadvertently remove something I know should stay put? > Worth noting, dmesg would have complained it can't find this & that firmware. That's what put me on to it. > Either way, problem solved. :-) Indeed. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On Friday 6 September 2024 12:04:08 BST Dale wrote: > I might add, another odd thing that started after a recent update. When > I logout of KDE or when first booting and am on the sddm login screen, > my first monitor powers off. The second monitor stays on and has the > login screen as does the TV screen. Yet the primary screen turns off. > At first when we got past the wonky monitor problem, all three would > stay on and mirror each other. Now it doesn't. > > I might add, if I switch to a console, screen one turns back on and all > three mirror each other. I kinda like that because if I need to do > something that takes a bit, I don't have to go to the living room to > turn the TV back on again. It sounds as if the primary monitor is using DPMS in Xorg, if you're running X, or some similar energy saving feature. Check SystemSettings > Power Management > Display and Brightness. Meanwhile back at the ranch, I think my Gkrellm dock panel problem is related to KDE 6 not identifying the Gkrellm window as a 'dock/panel', probably because the Gtk2 code is far too old to integrate with Plasma. :-( signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Michael wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 02:02:55 BST Dale wrote: > >> For some reason, the second monitor has a plasma thing, where app menu >> icon, virtual desktop, clock and such is, on the second monitor as >> well. My TV screen has nothing. No desktop icons, plasma thingy or >> anything. It just has a default background image and that is it. Why >> the second monitor got done that way, I dunno. May I should remove the >> plasma thing completely. > The "... plasma thing" = Plasma Panel container > > Can be placed on any screen edge. > > Can be more than one. > > Starting from the left, it contains: > > 1. Kmenu (i.e. application menu/launcher) > 2. Desktop pager (virtual desktops) > 3. Task manager (shortcut icons to applications and open applications) > 4. System Tray (notifications, Kmix, clock, etc.) > > >From what I recall SystemSettings allows you to select to have the Plasma > Panel only on the primary monitor. That's how I've set it on a dual monitor > PC here. Well, on my old rig, the second screen, TV, never had the plasma panel. On the new rig, it showed up on both from the beginning. I guess I could just delete/remove it. I don't really see a need for two anyway. I get why the primary has one. Just no idea why the second does but yet the third doesn't. It looks like if the default is to add one to all screens, then the TV would have one too. It's not like the puter knows I only have two of the monitors sitting in front of me and the third is elsewhere. ;-) I might add, another odd thing that started after a recent update. When I logout of KDE or when first booting and am on the sddm login screen, my first monitor powers off. The second monitor stays on and has the login screen as does the TV screen. Yet the primary screen turns off. At first when we got past the wonky monitor problem, all three would stay on and mirror each other. Now it doesn't. I might add, if I switch to a console, screen one turns back on and all three mirror each other. I kinda like that because if I need to do something that takes a bit, I don't have to go to the living room to turn the TV back on again. This monitor situation is getting plenty weird. I never know when it is going to change something and work weirdly. I don't know what is changing it tho. I haven't changed anything. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Friday 6 September 2024 10:45:26 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 10:10:47 BST Michael wrote: > > On Friday 6 September 2024 01:33:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > On Friday 6 September 2024 00:21:31 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > > I think I know what it is: the kernel's list of firmware blobs is > > > > empty. > > > > I > > > > don't know where they all went, but it shouldn't be too hard to find > > > > them. > > > > > > Indeed it was so. Now fixed and working fine. > > > > Without all requisite firmware for your graphics the Kwin compositor will > > fall back to software rendering. As you've experienced without hardware > > acceleration Kwin will eat up CPU cycles. > > > > Emerging sys-kernel/linux-firmware and configuring your system to use it > > fixes the problem by providing the necessary code for the graphics card to > > > do the heavy lifting: > Yes, I know, and I had it set up from when I acquired the machine. The > mystery is why it was missing from my two most recent kernels. You could have inadvertently cleaned this package from your /var/lib/portage/ world, or unmerged it for some reason. Worth noting, dmesg would have complained it can't find this & that firmware. Either way, problem solved. :-) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Friday 6 September 2024 10:10:47 BST Michael wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 01:33:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Friday 6 September 2024 00:21:31 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > I think I know what it is: the kernel's list of firmware blobs is empty. > > > I > > > don't know where they all went, but it shouldn't be too hard to find > > > them. > > > > Indeed it was so. Now fixed and working fine. > > Without all requisite firmware for your graphics the Kwin compositor will > fall back to software rendering. As you've experienced without hardware > acceleration Kwin will eat up CPU cycles. > > Emerging sys-kernel/linux-firmware and configuring your system to use it > fixes the problem by providing the necessary code for the graphics card to > do the heavy lifting: Yes, I know, and I had it set up from when I acquired the machine. The mystery is why it was missing from my two most recent kernels. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Friday 6 September 2024 01:33:04 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Friday 6 September 2024 00:21:31 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I think I know what it is: the kernel's list of firmware blobs is empty. I > > don't know where they all went, but it shouldn't be too hard to find them. > > Indeed it was so. Now fixed and working fine. Without all requisite firmware for your graphics the Kwin compositor will fall back to software rendering. As you've experienced without hardware acceleration Kwin will eat up CPU cycles. Emerging sys-kernel/linux-firmware and configuring your system to use it fixes the problem by providing the necessary code for the graphics card to do the heavy lifting: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On Friday 6 September 2024 02:02:55 BST Dale wrote: > For some reason, the second monitor has a plasma thing, where app menu > icon, virtual desktop, clock and such is, on the second monitor as > well. My TV screen has nothing. No desktop icons, plasma thingy or > anything. It just has a default background image and that is it. Why > the second monitor got done that way, I dunno. May I should remove the > plasma thing completely. The "... plasma thing" = Plasma Panel container Can be placed on any screen edge. Can be more than one. Starting from the left, it contains: 1. Kmenu (i.e. application menu/launcher) 2. Desktop pager (virtual desktops) 3. Task manager (shortcut icons to applications and open applications) 4. System Tray (notifications, Kmix, clock, etc.) >From what I recall SystemSettings allows you to select to have the Plasma Panel only on the primary monitor. That's how I've set it on a dual monitor PC here. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 15:34:06 BST Dale wrote: >> Michael wrote: >>> Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather unwanted >>> window behaviours. >>> >>> 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm >>> >>> DESIRED BEHAVIOUR: >>> == >>> I have Gkrellm started up by Plasma at login and placed at the top left of >>> the screen. I can't remember where/how I set this up, but at least it is >>> still respected by KDE 6. I've always set Gkrellm via its Configuration General > Properties with: >>> + Set sticky state >>> >>> + Set window type to be a dock or panel >>> >>> This allowed the following interaction with other application windows: >>> >>> - Other windows would launch without overlapping the Gkrellm window. On >>> an >>> otherwise empty desktop they would be placed on the right of it. >>> - When a window was maximised it did not extend sideways to cover the >>> whole >>> screen beyond the position of the the Grkellm. >>> - When I dragged a window to force it to infringe the boundary of the >>> Gkrellm window, the Gkrellm would overlap the dragged window. >> I'm having issues with gkrellm as well. I tend to put gkrellm on >> desktop 10 on the left side. I'd like it to be on screen 1 as well. >> When I first login, gkrellm is on desktop 1 and on screen 2. I have to >> move it every time. > Gkrellm should show up on all desktops, if you select 'Set sticky state'. > However, I understand the position on the desktop is a Plasma setting, not an > application setting. > I only want it on desktop 10. Some do want it on all desktops but I just want it on that one. And on screen 1 would be nice. When I'm not in my chair, I tend to park on desktop 10. I can see gkrellm and with that, know pretty well what is going on. I can even tell if a update is done or copying files within Konsole has completed. >> Usually I right click on the top bar of a window, >> select More Actions and either Window Settings or Application Settings, >> depending on which I want. I can then add Properties and set it like I >> want. It is best to have it like you want it before you start. It >> already has the settings that way. I do this for Seamonkey, both >> browser and email, QB and a few other apps. Thing is, gkrellm doesn't >> have a title bar to right click on. > If you right click on the Gkrellm on the Plasma toolbar you will be access > the > same Plasma window decorations as other windows have. Or, easier, click > Alt+F3 to popup the Plasma window menu on any application. > > There is also a Grekllm setting under General > Properties > "Use window type > decorations", but you'll have to restart Gkrellm for any changes to show up > if > you select this. > I didn't know about the Alt+F3 option. I did that and my menu popped up. I set it to be where I want it, screen 1 and desktop 10. I'm sure it will stay where it is told now. Those window rules tend to work well when it detects the window correctly. >> It works fine on my old rig but not >> on the new rig. When I had to use the old rig to watch TV, I checked, I >> couldn't find anything that tells gkrellm to be where it is but it comes >> up where I want it each time, apparently without me doing anything at >> all. New rig, it goes to the wrong place every single time. It's wrong >> but it is consistent. > Quit Gkrellm, then relaunch it and place it where you want it on the screen. > Hopefully Plasma will store this and survive a logout. If not, open the > Window decoration Plasma menu of Gkrellm after you reveal it as mentioned > above and add the window 'Position' property. Apply, then click OK. > > NOTE: I found such window positioning behavior to be particularly bad on X11 > as opposed to Wayland, but I understand NVidia is not yet working as well on > Wayland so YMMV. > I'm wondering if I should buy video cards that are not Nvidia. It used to be that Nvidia was the Linux video card. They had excellent support and all. It seems they have fallen some. I think the window rule will fix this tho. >> I have KDE set to remember what was open and where at logout. I don't >> know if KDE just isn't remembering where to put gkrellm because it isn't >> really a window or what. I might add tho, even tho screen 1 is set as >> primary, it still acts like screen 2 is primary for some things. I >> wonder if that is why gkrellm parks itself on screen 2 instead. Some >> apps I use open to screen 2 until I set up a rule forcing it to open on >> screen 1. It should open there by default but it doesn't. I might add, >> when I plug in a USB stick, the notification thingy pops up on screen 2, >> not screen 1 where it should be. > Hmm ... from what I see here notifications always popup on the primary screen > - assuming you have no task bar on your secondary screen. > > Also, if you click to launch an application, but you move your mouse and > click > quickly on the wallpaper on a
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 19:55:56 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: >> Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:54AM -0500 schrieb Dale: Use rsync with: --checksum and --dry-run >> I suggest calculating a checksum file from your active files. Then you don’t >> have to read the files over and over for each backup iteration you compare >> it against. >> You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the period you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run for too long before you spotted it. >> This. No need to check everything you ever stored. Just the most recent >> stuff, or at maximum, since you got the new PC. >> >>> I have just shy of 45,000 files in 780 directories or so. Almost 6,000 >>> in another. Some files are small, some are several GBs or so. Thing >>> is, backups go from a single parent directory if you will. Plus, I'd >>> want to compare them all anyway. Just to be sure. >> I aqcuired the habit of writing checksum files in all my media directories >> such as music albums, tv series and such, whenever I create one such >> directory. That way even years later I can still check whether the files are >> intact. I actually experienced broken music files from time to time (mostly >> on the MicroSD card in my tablet). So with checksum files, I can verify >> which file is bad and which (on another machine) is still good. > There is also dm-verity for a more involved solution. I think for Dale > something like this should work: > > find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log > > then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: > > md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED > > Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python > script to do the same at speed. I'll be honest here, on two points. I'd really like to be able to do this but I have no idea where to or how to even start. My setup for series type videos. In a parent directory, where I'd like a tool to start, is about 600 directories. On a few occasions, there is another directory inside that one. That directory under the parent is the name of the series. Sometimes I have a sub directory that has temp files; new files I have yet to rename, considering replacing in the main series directory etc. I wouldn't mind having a file with a checksum for each video in the top directory, and even one in the sub directory. As a example. TV_Series/ ├── 77 Sunset Strip (1958) │ └── torrent ├── Adam-12 (1968) ├── Airwolf (1984) I got a part of the output of tree. The directory 'torrent' under 77 Sunset is temporary usually but sometimes a directory is there for videos about the making of a video, history of it or something. What I'd like, a program that would generate checksums for each file under say 77 Sunset and it could skip or include the directory under it. Might be best if I could switch it on or off. Obviously, I may not want to do this for my whole system. I'd like to be able to target directories. I have another large directory, lets say not a series but sometimes has remakes, that I'd also like to do. It is kinda set up like the above, parent directory with a directory underneath and on occasion one more under that. One thing I worry about is not just memory problems, drive failure but also just some random error or even bit rot. Some of these files are rarely changed or even touched. I'd like a way to detect problems and there may even be a software tool that does this with some setup, reminds me of Kbackup where you can select what to backup or leave out on a directory or even individual file level. While this could likely be done with a script of some kind, my scripting skills are minimum at best, I suspect there is software out there somewhere that can do this. I have no idea what or where it could be tho. Given my lack of scripting skills, I'd be afraid I'd do something bad and it delete files or something. O_O LOL I been watching videos again, those I was watching during the time the memory was bad. I've replaced three so far. I think I noticed this within a few hours. Then it took a little while for me to figure out the problem and shutdown to run the memtest. I doubt many files were affected unless it does something we don't know about. I do plan to try to use rsync checksum and dryrun when I get back up and running. Also, QB is finding a lot of its files are fine as well. It's still rechecking them. It's a lot of files. Right now, I suspect my backup copy is likely better than my main copy. Once I get the memory in and can really run some software, then I'll run rsync with those compare options and see what it says. I just got to remember to reverse things. Backup is the source not the destination. If this works, I may run that each time, help detect problems maybe. Maybe?? Oh, memory made it to the Memphis hub. Should be here tomorrow. Dale
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Friday 6 September 2024 00:21:31 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > I think I know what it is: the kernel's list of firmware blobs is empty. I > don't know where they all went, but it shouldn't be too hard to find them. Indeed it was so. Now fixed and working fine. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 22:29:14 BST Michael wrote: > At a simple level you can check this file for any obvious problem: > > ~/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log > > Your symptom could be related to software rendering used by the kwin > compositor, as opposed to OpenGL. Mesa with appropriate USE flags should > provide what your graphics need. Have a look in kinfocenter, or run: > > qdbus6 org.kde.KWin /KWin supportInformation > > and check the section under Compositor, Compositor Type is not showing > Xrender or software rendering. I think I know what it is: the kernel's list of firmware blobs is empty. I don't know where they all went, but it shouldn't be too hard to find them. > Beyond this I think you're into compiling stuff with debugging symbols and > trying to understand where code fails: > > https://community.kde.org/KWin/Debugging Thanks to those who helped. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thu, Sep 5, 2024 at 12:00 PM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Thursday 5 September 2024 15:43:00 BST Iwrote: > > On Thursday 5 September 2024 13:47:29 BST I wrote: > > > ... Perhaps I should start recompiling things... > > > > After an emerge -e1 kwayland plasma-workspace and a reboot, kwin_wayland is > > down to 20-60% CPU and plasma_shell is barely visible in /top/. > > > > Much improved, but it still isn't right. > > It came back again, so I ran a complete -e, rebooted, recompiled the kernel > again and rebooted again. > > It's all back as it was - no CPU cycles left for anything else but wayland and > plasam-shell. > > How to debug this? > > -- > Regards, > Peter. If you are running systemd then you can try systemd-cgtop which should identify what slice, if any, is using lots of CPU. If you were interested in exploring more deeply you might be able to create a control group that Wayland could run inside of to limit resources or possible identify what part of Wayland is getting out of control
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Thursday 5 September 2024 19:55:56 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:54AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > Use rsync with: > > > --checksum > > > > > > and > > > > > > --dry-run > > I suggest calculating a checksum file from your active files. Then you don’t > have to read the files over and over for each backup iteration you compare > it against. > > > > You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the > > > period you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run > > > for too long before you spotted it. > > This. No need to check everything you ever stored. Just the most recent > stuff, or at maximum, since you got the new PC. > > > I have just shy of 45,000 files in 780 directories or so. Almost 6,000 > > in another. Some files are small, some are several GBs or so. Thing > > is, backups go from a single parent directory if you will. Plus, I'd > > want to compare them all anyway. Just to be sure. > > I aqcuired the habit of writing checksum files in all my media directories > such as music albums, tv series and such, whenever I create one such > directory. That way even years later I can still check whether the files are > intact. I actually experienced broken music files from time to time (mostly > on the MicroSD card in my tablet). So with checksum files, I can verify > which file is bad and which (on another machine) is still good. There is also dm-verity for a more involved solution. I think for Dale something like this should work: find path-to-directory/ -type f | xargs md5sum > digest.log then to compare with a backup of the same directory you could run: md5sum -c digest.log | grep FAILED Someone more knowledgeable should be able to knock out some clever python script to do the same at speed. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 20:00:12 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 15:43:00 BST Iwrote: > > On Thursday 5 September 2024 13:47:29 BST I wrote: > > > ... Perhaps I should start recompiling things... > > > > After an emerge -e1 kwayland plasma-workspace and a reboot, kwin_wayland > > is > > down to 20-60% CPU and plasma_shell is barely visible in /top/. > > > > Much improved, but it still isn't right. > > It came back again, so I ran a complete -e, rebooted, recompiled the kernel > again and rebooted again. > > It's all back as it was - no CPU cycles left for anything else but wayland > and plasam-shell. > > How to debug this? At a simple level you can check this file for any obvious problem: ~/.local/share/sddm/wayland-session.log Your symptom could be related to software rendering used by the kwin compositor, as opposed to OpenGL. Mesa with appropriate USE flags should provide what your graphics need. Have a look in kinfocenter, or run: qdbus6 org.kde.KWin /KWin supportInformation and check the section under Compositor, Compositor Type is not showing Xrender or software rendering. Beyond this I think you're into compiling stuff with debugging symbols and trying to understand where code fails: https://community.kde.org/KWin/Debugging signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Re gkrellm: Was: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Thanks Jack, On Thursday 5 September 2024 21:30:54 BST Jack wrote: > On 2024.09.05 09:22, Michael wrote: > > Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather > > unwanted > > window behaviours. > > > > 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm > > [snipped lots ] > > The latest release of gkrellm seems to have been over three years ago, > and unfortunately, I suspect there might not be another. The primary > developer died three and a half years ago, and while there is still > some minor activity (or at least was last time I looked) nobody had > stepped up to fully take over. The current version still uses gtk+2, > and based on the discussions, the way the program works is rather > deeply embedded in the lower levels thereof, and the port to gtk+3 (or > even 4) will not be easy. > > [I did not start a new thread, intending this just as a heads up in > case any of the discovered causes of the posted problems end up due to > anything actually in gkrellm rather then in the new KDE workings.] I was aware the developer passed and the future of Gkrellm is uncertain. I expect I will find using a PC without it *very* frustrating. The problems I was alerted to look into over the years because of some indication in Gkrellm are too many to mention. I hope someone comes forward and refactors the code in time. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re gkrellm: Was: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On 2024.09.05 09:22, Michael wrote: Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather unwanted window behaviours. 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm [snipped lots ] The latest release of gkrellm seems to have been over three years ago, and unfortunately, I suspect there might not be another. The primary developer died three and a half years ago, and while there is still some minor activity (or at least was last time I looked) nobody had stepped up to fully take over. The current version still uses gtk+2, and based on the discussions, the way the program works is rather deeply embedded in the lower levels thereof, and the port to gtk+3 (or even 4) will not be easy. [I did not start a new thread, intending this just as a heads up in case any of the discovered causes of the posted problems end up due to anything actually in gkrellm rather then in the new KDE workings.]
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 15:43:00 BST Iwrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 13:47:29 BST I wrote: > > ... Perhaps I should start recompiling things... > > After an emerge -e1 kwayland plasma-workspace and a reboot, kwin_wayland is > down to 20-60% CPU and plasma_shell is barely visible in /top/. > > Much improved, but it still isn't right. It came back again, so I ran a complete -e, rebooted, recompiled the kernel again and rebooted again. It's all back as it was - no CPU cycles left for anything else but wayland and plasam-shell. How to debug this? -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 06:30:54AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > Use rsync with: > > > > --checksum > > > > and > > > > --dry-run I suggest calculating a checksum file from your active files. Then you don’t have to read the files over and over for each backup iteration you compare it against. > > You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the > > period > > you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run for too > > long > > before you spotted it. This. No need to check everything you ever stored. Just the most recent stuff, or at maximum, since you got the new PC. > I have just shy of 45,000 files in 780 directories or so. Almost 6,000 > in another. Some files are small, some are several GBs or so. Thing > is, backups go from a single parent directory if you will. Plus, I'd > want to compare them all anyway. Just to be sure. I aqcuired the habit of writing checksum files in all my media directories such as music albums, tv series and such, whenever I create one such directory. That way even years later I can still check whether the files are intact. I actually experienced broken music files from time to time (mostly on the MicroSD card in my tablet). So with checksum files, I can verify which file is bad and which (on another machine) is still good. -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Lettered up the mixes? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
On Thursday 5 September 2024 15:34:06 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather unwanted > > window behaviours. > > > > 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm > > > > DESIRED BEHAVIOUR: > > == > > I have Gkrellm started up by Plasma at login and placed at the top left of > > the screen. I can't remember where/how I set this up, but at least it is > > still respected by KDE 6. I've always set Gkrellm via its Configuration > > > General > Properties with: > > > > + Set sticky state > > > > + Set window type to be a dock or panel > > > > This allowed the following interaction with other application windows: > > > > - Other windows would launch without overlapping the Gkrellm window. On > > an > > otherwise empty desktop they would be placed on the right of it. > > - When a window was maximised it did not extend sideways to cover the > > whole > > screen beyond the position of the the Grkellm. > > - When I dragged a window to force it to infringe the boundary of the > > Gkrellm window, the Gkrellm would overlap the dragged window. > > I'm having issues with gkrellm as well. I tend to put gkrellm on > desktop 10 on the left side. I'd like it to be on screen 1 as well. > When I first login, gkrellm is on desktop 1 and on screen 2. I have to > move it every time. Gkrellm should show up on all desktops, if you select 'Set sticky state'. However, I understand the position on the desktop is a Plasma setting, not an application setting. > Usually I right click on the top bar of a window, > select More Actions and either Window Settings or Application Settings, > depending on which I want. I can then add Properties and set it like I > want. It is best to have it like you want it before you start. It > already has the settings that way. I do this for Seamonkey, both > browser and email, QB and a few other apps. Thing is, gkrellm doesn't > have a title bar to right click on. If you right click on the Gkrellm on the Plasma toolbar you will be access the same Plasma window decorations as other windows have. Or, easier, click Alt+F3 to popup the Plasma window menu on any application. There is also a Grekllm setting under General > Properties > "Use window type decorations", but you'll have to restart Gkrellm for any changes to show up if you select this. > It works fine on my old rig but not > on the new rig. When I had to use the old rig to watch TV, I checked, I > couldn't find anything that tells gkrellm to be where it is but it comes > up where I want it each time, apparently without me doing anything at > all. New rig, it goes to the wrong place every single time. It's wrong > but it is consistent. Quit Gkrellm, then relaunch it and place it where you want it on the screen. Hopefully Plasma will store this and survive a logout. If not, open the Window decoration Plasma menu of Gkrellm after you reveal it as mentioned above and add the window 'Position' property. Apply, then click OK. NOTE: I found such window positioning behavior to be particularly bad on X11 as opposed to Wayland, but I understand NVidia is not yet working as well on Wayland so YMMV. > I have KDE set to remember what was open and where at logout. I don't > know if KDE just isn't remembering where to put gkrellm because it isn't > really a window or what. I might add tho, even tho screen 1 is set as > primary, it still acts like screen 2 is primary for some things. I > wonder if that is why gkrellm parks itself on screen 2 instead. Some > apps I use open to screen 2 until I set up a rule forcing it to open on > screen 1. It should open there by default but it doesn't. I might add, > when I plug in a USB stick, the notification thingy pops up on screen 2, > not screen 1 where it should be. Hmm ... from what I see here notifications always popup on the primary screen - assuming you have no task bar on your secondary screen. Also, if you click to launch an application, but you move your mouse and click quickly on the wallpaper on another screen, the application will launch on the screen you placed and clicked your mouse on. > I mention all this because it might give you a clue on where or how KDE > is working now. Clearly gkrellm is unique because I can get everything > else to work right, even if I have to force it with window/application > rules. > > Oh, when looking at window rules in System Settings, it has a export and > import feature. I never saw that before. Might be new. It's at the > top I think. If you use that tool, may want to back up your settings > when you get everything done. > > Hope that gives you some clue to a fix. Maybe. > > Dale > > :-) :-) SystemSettings > Window Management > Window Rules, shows any windows you have set bespoke settings for. You can add and modify application window settings there, or you can do the same Alt+F3, the select More Actions and use the settings at
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 16:08:36 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 07:32:21 BST I wrote: > > Has anyone else seen grossly excessive CPU load since adopting the new > > Wayland way of doing things? /Top/ is showing 1300% going on kwin_wayland > > and the whole of the rest going on plasmashell. > > Another thing: the plasma system is not preserving my desktops between > sessions. Well, firefox and 3 x gkrellm all reappear, but on the first > desktop, not where I put them. 3 x konsole, dolphin, kmail, korganiser: > none of these restart. I observed there were a quite a few .desktop files with changed content, according to etc-update. Perhaps you need to run etc-update if you haven't done so already. However, I find some window management irregularities on KDE 6 compared to KDE 5, as per my other post today. Perhaps these such functionality will improve as the code base matures. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 07:32:21 BST I wrote: > Has anyone else seen grossly excessive CPU load since adopting the new > Wayland way of doing things? /Top/ is showing 1300% going on kwin_wayland > and the whole of the rest going on plasmashell. Another thing: the plasma system is not preserving my desktops between sessions. Well, firefox and 3 x gkrellm all reappear, but on the first desktop, not where I put them. 3 x konsole, dolphin, kmail, korganiser: none of these restart. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 13:47:29 BST I wrote: > ... Perhaps I should start recompiling things... After an emerge -e1 kwayland plasma-workspace and a reboot, kwin_wayland is down to 20-60% CPU and plasma_shell is barely visible in /top/. Much improved, but it still isn't right. -- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Michael wrote: > Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather unwanted > window behaviours. > > 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm > > DESIRED BEHAVIOUR: > == > I have Gkrellm started up by Plasma at login and placed at the top left of > the > screen. I can't remember where/how I set this up, but at least it is still > respected by KDE 6. I've always set Gkrellm via its Configuration > General > > > Properties with: > > + Set sticky state > > + Set window type to be a dock or panel > > This allowed the following interaction with other application windows: > > - Other windows would launch without overlapping the Gkrellm window. On an > otherwise empty desktop they would be placed on the right of it. > - When a window was maximised it did not extend sideways to cover the whole > screen beyond the position of the the Grkellm. > - When I dragged a window to force it to infringe the boundary of the Gkrellm > window, the Gkrellm would overlap the dragged window. I'm having issues with gkrellm as well. I tend to put gkrellm on desktop 10 on the left side. I'd like it to be on screen 1 as well. When I first login, gkrellm is on desktop 1 and on screen 2. I have to move it every time. Usually I right click on the top bar of a window, select More Actions and either Window Settings or Application Settings, depending on which I want. I can then add Properties and set it like I want. It is best to have it like you want it before you start. It already has the settings that way. I do this for Seamonkey, both browser and email, QB and a few other apps. Thing is, gkrellm doesn't have a title bar to right click on. It works fine on my old rig but not on the new rig. When I had to use the old rig to watch TV, I checked, I couldn't find anything that tells gkrellm to be where it is but it comes up where I want it each time, apparently without me doing anything at all. New rig, it goes to the wrong place every single time. It's wrong but it is consistent. I have KDE set to remember what was open and where at logout. I don't know if KDE just isn't remembering where to put gkrellm because it isn't really a window or what. I might add tho, even tho screen 1 is set as primary, it still acts like screen 2 is primary for some things. I wonder if that is why gkrellm parks itself on screen 2 instead. Some apps I use open to screen 2 until I set up a rule forcing it to open on screen 1. It should open there by default but it doesn't. I might add, when I plug in a USB stick, the notification thingy pops up on screen 2, not screen 1 where it should be. I mention all this because it might give you a clue on where or how KDE is working now. Clearly gkrellm is unique because I can get everything else to work right, even if I have to force it with window/application rules. Oh, when looking at window rules in System Settings, it has a export and import feature. I never saw that before. Might be new. It's at the top I think. If you use that tool, may want to back up your settings when you get everything done. Hope that gives you some clue to a fix. Maybe. Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] KDE Frameworks 6 window management
Since I upgraded to KDE Frameworks 6 I have observed some rather unwanted window behaviours. 1. Window Interaction with Gkrellm DESIRED BEHAVIOUR: == I have Gkrellm started up by Plasma at login and placed at the top left of the screen. I can't remember where/how I set this up, but at least it is still respected by KDE 6. I've always set Gkrellm via its Configuration > General > Properties with: + Set sticky state + Set window type to be a dock or panel This allowed the following interaction with other application windows: - Other windows would launch without overlapping the Gkrellm window. On an otherwise empty desktop they would be placed on the right of it. - When a window was maximised it did not extend sideways to cover the whole screen beyond the position of the the Grkellm. - When I dragged a window to force it to infringe the boundary of the Gkrellm window, the Gkrellm would overlap the dragged window. UNDESIRED BEHAVIOUR: === With KDE Frameworks 6, Gkrellm is not recognised/respected fully as a dock panel: Other application windows will maximise to the full width of the screen and be overlapped by Gkrellm. When the maximised window is a terminal, this can be quite unhelpful. If I unset Gkrellm as a dock, then when I launch some application window Gkrellm will be overlapped indiscriminately. I tried playing with various Gkrellm and KDE window settings, but I can't get it to interact with other windows in KDE 6 as it did in KDE 5. 2. Kmail compose window === The kmail composer window launches at the same size as the main kmail window. If I shrink it down to a more manageable size, then next time I launch kmail the main window is as small as I had shrunk its composer window. In KDE 5 the kmail main window and composer window sizes were dealt as separate windows with their own size settings. Now one seems to inherit the dimensions of the other. Have you experienced anything similar? How could I revert this unwanted window management behaviour to what KDE 5 window management was like? PS. Extra bonus points for someone who can offer an explanation why kmail spellcheck suddenly started applying US English as opposed to the actual setting of British English. o_O signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Wayland and CPU load
On Thursday 5 September 2024 08:50:39 BST Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 07:32:21 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > Has anyone else seen grossly excessive CPU load since adopting the new > > Wayland way of doing things? /Top/ is showing 1300% going on kwin_wayland > > and the whole of the rest going on plasmashell. > > Ouch! No, this is definitely excessive. This is what I have here on a > Wayland Plasma desktop, with gkrellm, kmail, a text editor and a couple of > terminals running: > > PID USER PR NIVIRTRESSHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND > 4257 michael -2 0 4812308 226288 156940 S 0.7 0.3 0:06.62 > kwin_wayland > 4640 michael 20 0 193240 30508 24576 S 0.7 0.0 0:02.58 gkrellm > > I need hardly say this doesn't make a responsive system. > > Quite so. Dare I ask if you're observing this on a system running NVidia > graphics? No, it's this: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Raptor Lake-P [Iris Xe Graphics] The box is a 16-thread i5 with 32GB. I notice though that the core temp is steady at 60C, so it looks as though it's running back-to-back NOPs, because any real load would have it near 90C and the fan running hard. Oh, and a reboot makes no difference. Perhaps I should start recompiling things... V-- Regards, Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 11:53:16 BST Dale wrote: >> >> I made my backups last weekend. I'm sure it was working fine then. >> After all, it would have failed to compile packages if it was bad. I'm >> thinking about checking against that copy like you mentioned but I have >> other files I've added since then. I figure if I remove the delete >> option, that will solve that. It can't compare but it can leave them be. > Use rsync with: > > --checksum > > and > > --dry-run > > Then it will compare files in situ without doing anything else. > > If you have a directory or only a few files it is easy and quick to run. > > You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the period > you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run for too long > before you spotted it. I have just shy of 45,000 files in 780 directories or so. Almost 6,000 in another. Some files are small, some are several GBs or so. Thing is, backups go from a single parent directory if you will. Plus, I'd want to compare them all anyway. Just to be sure. I also went back and got QB to do a manual file test. It seems to be doing better. There's over 4,000 torrents. Some 32TBs of data. I think it's going to take a while. o_^ As it is, I set the speed to tiny amounts until I get this sorted. Don't want to accidentally share a bad file. Dale :-) :-) P. S. My trees need some rain today. It's getting very dry. I been watering some trees. My Swamp Chestnut trees are massive. Hate to lose those things. Likely 100 years old according to my tree guru. In the fall, I wear a construction helmet. Those things hurt when they fall and hit my head.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Thursday 5 September 2024 11:53:16 BST Dale wrote: > Michael wrote: > > On Thursday 5 September 2024 09:36:36 BST Dale wrote: > >> I've ran fsck before mounting on every file system so far. I ran it on > >> the OS file systems while booted from the Live image. The others I just > >> did before mounting. I realize this doesn't mean the files themselves > >> are OK but at least the file system under them is OK. > > > > This could put your mind mostly at rest, at least the OS structure is OK > > and the error was not running for too long. > > That does help. > > >> I'm not sure how > >> to know if any damage was done between when the memory stick failed and > >> when I started the repair process. I could find the ones I copied from > >> place to place and check them but other than watching every single > >> video, I'm not sure how to know if one is bad or not. So far, > >> thumbnails work. o_O > > > > If you have a copy of these files on another machine, you can run rsync > > with --checksum. This will only (re)copy the file over if the checksum > > is different. > > I made my backups last weekend. I'm sure it was working fine then. > After all, it would have failed to compile packages if it was bad. I'm > thinking about checking against that copy like you mentioned but I have > other files I've added since then. I figure if I remove the delete > option, that will solve that. It can't compare but it can leave them be. Use rsync with: --checksum and --dry-run Then it will compare files in situ without doing anything else. If you have a directory or only a few files it is easy and quick to run. You can also run find to identify which files were changed during the period you were running with the dodgy RAM. Thankfully you didn't run for too long before you spotted it. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 10:36:19AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > >>> Maybe that it only catches 1-bit errors, but Dale has more broken bits? >> Or it could be Dale's kit is DDR4? > You may be right. We talked about AM5 at great length during the concept > phase and then I think I actually asked back because in one mail he > mentioned to have bought an AM4 CPU (5000 series). :D I looked, it is DDR4. G.Skill F4-3600C18D-64GTRS is the brand and part number. I picked it because I've had that brand before and never had trouble and it was on the ASUS list. I did switch down from AM5 to AM4. AM5 doesn't have enough PCIe slots for me. > > Damn Chinese keyboald dlivel! That is familiar. I'm starting to get used to this keyboard. Sort of. I see things like that often tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 09:36:36 BST Dale wrote: > >> I've ran fsck before mounting on every file system so far. I ran it on >> the OS file systems while booted from the Live image. The others I just >> did before mounting. I realize this doesn't mean the files themselves >> are OK but at least the file system under them is OK. > This could put your mind mostly at rest, at least the OS structure is OK and > the error was not running for too long. > That does help. >> I'm not sure how >> to know if any damage was done between when the memory stick failed and >> when I started the repair process. I could find the ones I copied from >> place to place and check them but other than watching every single >> video, I'm not sure how to know if one is bad or not. So far, >> thumbnails work. o_O > If you have a copy of these files on another machine, you can run rsync with > --checksum. This will only (re)copy the file over if the checksum is > different. > I made my backups last weekend. I'm sure it was working fine then. After all, it would have failed to compile packages if it was bad. I'm thinking about checking against that copy like you mentioned but I have other files I've added since then. I figure if I remove the delete option, that will solve that. It can't compare but it can leave them be. I think I'm going to wait until the new memory comes in before I do anything tho. Including making backups. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied dependencies
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 08:36:46 BST Dale wrote: >> Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >>> I don't do emerge -e world very often but this is weird. This is the >>> complaint emerge spits out: >>> >>> >>> >>> !!! The following update(s) have been skipped due to unsatisfied >>> dependencies >>> !!! triggered by backtracking: >>> >>> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers:0 >>> x11-base/xorg-drivers:0 >>> x11-base/xorg-server:0 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-input-libinput:0 >>> xfce-base/xfce4-settings:0 >>> xfce-base/xfce4-meta:0 >>> x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa:0 >>> x11-misc/sddm:0 >>> kde-plasma/plasma-meta:6 >>> >>> >>> I checked with equery, they all in the tree, installed even. What is >>> emerge trying to tell me? I also get this which may or may not be >>> related. >>> >>> >>> !!! Ebuilds for the following packages are either all >>> !!! masked or don't exist: >>> app-backup/mkstage4 kde-plasma/plasma-meta >>> sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:6.9.10 sys-kernel/gentoo-sources:6.9.4 >>> x11-drivers/nvidia-drivers x11-drivers/xf86-video-vesa >>> xfce-base/xfce4-meta >>> >>> >>> I get the gentoo-sources and mkstage4. It always complains about >>> those. The others tho, what's emerge fussing about? >>> >>> Ideas? I emerge something weird to cause that? Is emerge going wonky >>> over nothing? >>> >>> Dale >>> >>> :-) :-) >> The solution to this came after emerge world finished. I did some >> checking to see what packages it skipped. It turns out that several >> packages were skipped. I have buildpkg set so all I had to do is look >> for a package with no binary available using emerge -aek world. I >> deleted all old binaries to make certain none that may be bad were used >> given my bad memory stick problem. Anyway, when I was going through >> those, I realized what emerge was telling me. I usually mask higher >> versions of gentoo-sources than what I want to keep. I remove the mask >> when I want to upgrade then reset. Either I forgot, very likely, or >> mistakenly masked all versions of gentoo-sources. That made emerge to >> have missing dependencies for a kernel. That meant some packages that >> require that had to be skipped. >> >> So, don't mask all versions of a kernel unless you want to have >> problems. I might add, I suspect that would affect updates as well as >> emerge -e world. >> >> Now when I do a emerge -aek world, I see that binaries are available for >> all packages and they should be good ones. That also means all packages >> have been installed with good memory. No failures either. >> >> Oh, I kinda kept a eye on memory usage when qtwebengine was compiling. >> It seems emerge wants 32GBs of space available when building that >> monster. As I was watching, at one point it reached 27GBs of memory >> usage. Now I was logged into KDE and with the little I have running, >> Seamonkey mostly, it uses about 3GBs. So, if one wants to override that >> requirement, it needs about 24 or 25GBs of space available. If your >> mobo only has 24GBs or less, I wouldn't risk it. > Allow 2G-3G of RAM per thread, assuming you have set MAKEOPTS to take > advantage of all your cores and you do not use swap. If you don't have > enough > RAM for large packages then a cheaper solution is to set a lower make --jobs > threshold: > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env > I have mine set to what my system can handle, with both memory sticks of course. Since one decided to take a nap on me, now that is reduced. Still, one needs to be careful if overriding the defaults on that package. That thing is a monster for sure. I think it sailed past LOo long ago. It used to be that LOo was the big one. Pssst. Don't tell LOo or they will add stuff just to get the big one label back. LOL I think one reason they lost that title, they split the package into pieces. >> Odds are, even running >> with no GUI at all and nothing else using memory, it will be a tight fit >> at the least. With my current 32GB stick, I had to create and enable >> some swap. I wonder, why don't they break that thing into two pieces or >> something That's massive. > You can blame Google, what with their Chrome browser built to replace your > browser, online authentication mechanism, mail client, file manager, video > player, desktop, etc., and if they had a say in this, even your OS. Don't they have a pad thingy that is like a all in one thing? Just found a video that has a bad spot. This is about the time I noticed gkrellm was stuck too. Found a good copy still in the QB section. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Thu, Sep 05, 2024 at 10:36:19AM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > Maybe that it only catches 1-bit errors, but Dale has more broken bits? > > Or it could be Dale's kit is DDR4? You may be right. We talked about AM5 at great length during the concept phase and then I think I actually asked back because in one mail he mentioned to have bought an AM4 CPU (5000 series). :D -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Damn Chinese keyboald dlivel! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Thursday 5 September 2024 10:08:08 BST Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 11:38:01PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > > Some MoBos are more tolerant than others. > > > > Regarding Dale's question, which has already been answered - yes, anything > > the bad memory has touched is suspect of corruption. Without ECC RAM a > > dodgy module can cause a lot of damage before it is discovered. > > Actually I was wondering: DDR5 has built-in ECC. But that’s not the same as > the server-grade stuff, because it all happens inside the module with no > communication to the CPU or the OS. So what is the point of it if it still > causes errors like in Dale’s case? > > Maybe that it only catches 1-bit errors, but Dale has more broken bits? Or it could be Dale's kit is DDR4? Either way, as you say DDR5 is manufactured with On-Die ECC capable of correcting a single-bit error, necessary because DDR5 chip density has increased to the point where single-bit flip errors become unavoidable. It also allows manufacturers to ship chips which would otherwise fail the JEDEC specification. On-Die ECC will only correct bit flips *within* the memory chip. Conventional Side-Band ECC with one additional chip dedicated to ECC correction is capable of correcting errors while data is being moved by the memory controller between the memory module and CPU/GPU. It performs much more heavy lifting and this is why ECC memory is slower. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Am Wed, Sep 04, 2024 at 11:38:01PM +0100 schrieb Michael: > Some MoBos are more tolerant than others. > Regarding Dale's question, which has already been answered - yes, anything > the > bad memory has touched is suspect of corruption. Without ECC RAM a dodgy > module can cause a lot of damage before it is discovered. Actually I was wondering: DDR5 has built-in ECC. But that’s not the same as the server-grade stuff, because it all happens inside the module with no communication to the CPU or the OS. So what is the point of it if it still causes errors like in Dale’s case? Maybe that it only catches 1-bit errors, but Dale has more broken bits? -- Grüße | Greetings | Salut | Qapla’ Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network. Says the zero to the eight: “nice belt”. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
On Thursday 5 September 2024 09:36:36 BST Dale wrote: > I've ran fsck before mounting on every file system so far. I ran it on > the OS file systems while booted from the Live image. The others I just > did before mounting. I realize this doesn't mean the files themselves > are OK but at least the file system under them is OK. This could put your mind mostly at rest, at least the OS structure is OK and the error was not running for too long. > I'm not sure how > to know if any damage was done between when the memory stick failed and > when I started the repair process. I could find the ones I copied from > place to place and check them but other than watching every single > video, I'm not sure how to know if one is bad or not. So far, > thumbnails work. o_O If you have a copy of these files on another machine, you can run rsync with --checksum. This will only (re)copy the file over if the checksum is different. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Package compile failures with "internal compiler error: Segmentation fault".
Michael wrote: > On Thursday 5 September 2024 01:11:13 BST Dale wrote: > >> When I built this rig, I first booted the Gentoo Live boot image and >> just played around a bit. Mostly to let the CPU grease settle in a >> bit. Then I ran memtest through a whole test until it said it passed. >> Only then did I start working on the install. The rig has ran without >> issue until I noticed gkrellm temps were stuck. They wasn't updating as >> temps change. So, I closed gkrellm but then it wouldn't open again. >> Ran it in a console and saw the error about missing module or >> something. Then I tried to figure out that problem which lead to seg >> fault errors. Well, that lead to the thread and the discovery of a bad >> memory stick. I check gkrellm often so it was most likely less than a >> day. Could have been only hours. Knowing I check gkrellm often, it was >> likely only a matter of a couple hours or so. The only reason it might >> have went longer, the CPU was mostly idle. I watch more often when the >> CPU is busy, updates etc. > Ah! It seems it died while in active service. :-) > > There's no way to protect against this kind of failure in real time, short of > running a server spec. board with ECC RAM. An expensive proposition for a > home PC. Yea, this mobo doesn't support that. It does seem that the files for Qbittorrent, QB, has some serious issues. I got it to recheck them all and almost all of them had something QB detected that made it download them all again. I think it has checksums for chunks of a file as well as a checksum for the entire file. I figure it got a mismatch for the whole file and went to work. I wish I could have just let it find the bad chunks instead of the whole file. Some torrents are hard to get. I've ran fsck before mounting on every file system so far. I ran it on the OS file systems while booted from the Live image. The others I just did before mounting. I realize this doesn't mean the files themselves are OK but at least the file system under them is OK. I'm not sure how to know if any damage was done between when the memory stick failed and when I started the repair process. I could find the ones I copied from place to place and check them but other than watching every single video, I'm not sure how to know if one is bad or not. So far, thumbnails work. o_O If Amazon is going to get that memory here Friday, it better get a move on. It hasn't shipped yet. Amazon is bad to ship from warehouse to warehouse and get it close before actually shipping it with USPS, FedEx or something. It says Friday so it will likely be here Friday. I haven't had one late yet. Had them early tho. ;-) I actually paid for shipping on this one. I really should get prime. Come on memory sticks. :-D Dale :-) :-)
