Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-10-16 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 
>
> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>
> kashani
>
>

I thought I would post what I ended up getting.  This actually works
pretty well. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152100

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102

The drive formats out to about 732Gb with resierfs.  This is the speed
result from hdparm:

r...@smoker / # hdparm -Tt /dev/sda

/dev/sda:
 Timing cached reads:   860 MB in  2.00 seconds = 429.42 MB/sec
 Timing buffered disk reads:  246 MB in  3.02 seconds =  81.55 MB/sec
r...@smoker / #

That is with KDE running.  It is a little faster in console with no GUI
running but its not a lot.  It is a good bit faster than my IDE drives
tho.  Almost double the speed. 

The reason I picked a somewhat slower card is because someone said PCI
would be the bottleneck so I saw no need for a really fast and expensive
card.  I did get a fast drive since when I build my new rig I can swap
it over to it.  Oh, the new rig will be a while yet.  I ran up on a
really nice TV and I spent what I had saved on that.  My old TV was
about 20 years old.  I now have a LG 32" LCD TV that is 1080p and a
DirecTv HD box to go with it.  I really like watching the history
channel when they show the Egyptian tombs and stuff.  It's like being
there in person almost.

Anyway, that is the update.  Thanks much for guiding me through the
selection process.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 
>
> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>
> kashani
>
>

OK.  I'm looking at these two SATA cards.  I'm not sure which one yet. 
One has the external connector too.  Sort of like that idea. 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003

For the hard drive, I'm liking this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148395

I figure that will last me a little while.  I found me a site to
download the Law & Order and NCIS shows now.  Oh boy 

Anyone see anything wrong with that combination? 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> USB.  There is another idea.  Ooops, out of USB plugs too.  Crap, I
>> can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into.  LOL  I
>> do have USB 2.0 on here.  I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my
>> camera has to have 1.0.  Weird I know.
>
> Perhaps it's new or at least newer computer time?
>
> kashani
>
>
>

It's in the planning stages now.  AMD 4 core CPU with hopefully a HUGE
hard drive.  I'm working on it but I have to save up some cash first.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread kashani

Dale wrote:

USB.  There is another idea.  Ooops, out of USB plugs too.  Crap, I
can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into.  LOL  I
do have USB 2.0 on here.  I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my
camera has to have 1.0.  Weird I know.


Perhaps it's new or at least newer computer time?

kashani




Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread James Ausmus

On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 12:37 PM, Paul Hartman <
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com > wrote:
>
> I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they
> are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...).
>


I'm don't think that the connectors are different enough to care about - I
had (in a previous life/system) a PCI SATA interface card that had both
internal SATA and an eSATA connector, and when I ran out of regular internal
SATA connectors, I just used a regular SATA cable, plugged into the eSATA
port, then ran the cable back in through an empty expansion slot in the
case, and hooked it up to a regular internal SATA driver - worked like a
champ... ;)

-James


Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Dale  wrote:
> kashani wrote:
>> Dale wrote:
>>> kashani wrote:
 Dale wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been
> trying to
> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I
> don't
> have SATA on this rig.
>
> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they
> are a
> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
 SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.

 kashani

>>> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
>>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
>>> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>>>
>>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
>>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>>>
>>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
>>> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
>>> it also says SATA II.
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA
>> esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new
>> external drives are starting to support it.
>>
>> This looks to be your best choice.
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102&cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product
>>
>>
>> I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not
>> support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free
>> slot and verify that slot type before buying something.
>>
>> kashani
>>
>>
>
> OK.  Lets see if my muddy water has cleared up any.  I can use the same
> drives on either a "SATA" or a "eSATA" its just that the cable is
> different?  The "eSATA" cable is shielded where the internal one is
> not.  No difference in speed or anything, just the cable?  Correct?
> That's how I read the link.
>
> Your link to newegg is a good one.  It only has two ports which may work
> if I don't have to buy any more drives before my new build.  It is
> cheaper too.  Jeez, they fill up fast on DSL.  LOL

I think eSATA and SATA physically have different connectors, but they
are the technically same (you can buy simple adapters...).

Also, another "Gotcha" to watch out for is that sometimes motherboard
or controller cards with both internal SATA and external eSATA ports
don't support using both types at the same time. My last two
motherboard were this way. 4 internal SATA and 2 eSATA but only 4
devices in total can be used at any time. Caveat emptor. :)



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> kashani wrote:
>>> Dale wrote:
 Hi,

 I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been
 trying to
 find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
 fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I
 don't
 have SATA on this rig.

 I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they
 are a
 little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
 speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

 Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 
>>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>>>
>>> kashani
>>>
>> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
>> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>>
>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>>
>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
>> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
>> it also says SATA II. 
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA
> esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new
> external drives are starting to support it.
>
> This looks to be your best choice.
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102&cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product
>
>
> I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not
> support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free
> slot and verify that slot type before buying something.
>
> kashani
>
>

OK.  Lets see if my muddy water has cleared up any.  I can use the same
drives on either a "SATA" or a "eSATA" its just that the cable is
different?  The "eSATA" cable is shielded where the internal one is
not.  No difference in speed or anything, just the cable?  Correct? 
That's how I read the link. 

Your link to newegg is a good one.  It only has two ports which may work
if I don't have to buy any more drives before my new build.  It is
cheaper too.  Jeez, they fill up fast on DSL.  LOL

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dale  wrote:
>   
>> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale  wrote:
>>>
>>>   
 kashani wrote:

 
> Dale wrote:
>
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
>>
>> 
> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>
> kashani
>
>
>
>   
 I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
 before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
 have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:

 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003

 I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
 assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?

 Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
 this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
 it also says SATA II.

 
>>> Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA
>>> built-in. :)
>>>
>>> This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using
>>> SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028
>>>
>>> As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck,
>>> especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at
>>> least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and
>>> quick.
>>>
>>> For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of
>>> something like this:
>>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal
>> connectors.  I may have to have a external drive one day soon.  I'm
>> about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5" to 5 1/4"
>> adapters.  They always give me grief.
>>
>> I see what you mean on the little adapter.  Wouldn't be any faster tho
>> would it?  Wish they had that at newegg too.  I cold order both at the
>> same time.  o_O  It is CHEAP too.
>> 
>
> DealExtreme is in Hong Kong so it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks to get
> things from there to here (in USA), but the prices are ridiculously
> low and they have just about everything when it comes to small
> adapters and USB gizmos.
>
> For external drives it might be easier to use USB (assuming you have
> USB 2.0 on that system). It might even be faster than eSata through a
> PCI card. I have an external USB hard drive and get consistantly
> around 35MiB/sec read and write speed...
>
>
>   

USB.  There is another idea.  Ooops, out of USB plugs too.  Crap, I
can't put in a drive without buying something to plug it into.  LOL  I
do have USB 2.0 on here.  I have to have 2.0 for the printer but my
camera has to have 1.0.  Weird I know.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Dale  wrote:
> Paul Hartman wrote:
>> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale  wrote:
>>
>>> kashani wrote:
>>>
 Dale wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
> have SATA on this rig.
>
> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
>
 SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.

 kashani



>>> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
>>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
>>> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>>>
>>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>>>
>>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
>>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>>>
>>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
>>> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
>>> it also says SATA II.
>>>
>>
>> Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA
>> built-in. :)
>>
>> This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using
>> SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028
>>
>> As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck,
>> especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at
>> least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and
>> quick.
>>
>> For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of
>> something like this:
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537
>>
>>
>>
>
> I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal
> connectors.  I may have to have a external drive one day soon.  I'm
> about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5" to 5 1/4"
> adapters.  They always give me grief.
>
> I see what you mean on the little adapter.  Wouldn't be any faster tho
> would it?  Wish they had that at newegg too.  I cold order both at the
> same time.  o_O  It is CHEAP too.

DealExtreme is in Hong Kong so it usually takes 2 or 3 weeks to get
things from there to here (in USA), but the prices are ridiculously
low and they have just about everything when it comes to small
adapters and USB gizmos.

For external drives it might be easier to use USB (assuming you have
USB 2.0 on that system). It might even be faster than eSata through a
PCI card. I have an external USB hard drive and get consistantly
around 35MiB/sec read and write speed...



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale  wrote:
>   
>> kashani wrote:
>> 
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>   
 Hi,

 I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
 find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
 fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
 have SATA on this rig.

 I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
 little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
 speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

 Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
 
>>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>>>
>>> kashani
>>>
>>>
>>>   
>> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
>> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>>
>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>>
>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
>> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
>> it also says SATA II.
>> 
>
> Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA
> built-in. :)
>
> This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using
> SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028
>
> As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck,
> especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at
> least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and
> quick.
>
> For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of
> something like this:
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537
>
>
>   

I looked at the one that is $10.00 cheaper but it only has internal
connectors.  I may have to have a external drive one day soon.  I'm
about full on the 3.5' slots and I hate those little 3.5" to 5 1/4"
adapters.  They always give me grief.

I see what you mean on the little adapter.  Wouldn't be any faster tho
would it?  Wish they had that at newegg too.  I cold order both at the
same time.  o_O  It is CHEAP too. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread kashani

Dale wrote:

kashani wrote:

Dale wrote:

Hi,

I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
have SATA on this rig.

I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 

SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.

kashani


I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003

I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?

Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
it also says SATA II. 


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESATA
	esata is different sort of connection, but a number of new external 
drives are starting to support it.


This looks to be your best choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815102102&cm_re=pci_sata_II-_-15-102-102-_-Product

I assume that any motherboard that does not support SATA also does not 
support PCI-E or PCI-X, but you should make sure that you have a free 
slot and verify that slot type before buying something.


kashani



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Dale wrote:
>   
>> kashani wrote:
>> 
>>> Dale wrote:
>>>   
 Hi,

 I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
 find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
 fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
 have SATA on this rig.

 I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
 little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
 speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

 Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
 
>>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>>>
>>> kashani
>>>   
>> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
>> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
>> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>>
>> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>>
>> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
>> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>>
>> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
>> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
>> it also says SATA II.
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> Dale
>>
>> :-)  :-)
>>
>> 
>
> it is a pci-x card and expensive. Try to get a nice pci or pcie card.
>
> remember: pci-x is NOT pci-express
>
>
>   

This is a older system.  It has those wide connectors.  It's a Abit nf7
V 2.0 mobo.  No "S" or "M" in the model.  This link has a picture of my
mobo.

http://www.cyfinity.com/tag/watts/

That is not my system, just a pic of the same mobo.  I found it with
google and just picked it at random.

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Paul Hartman
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Dale  wrote:
> kashani wrote:
>> Dale wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>>> have SATA on this rig.
>>>
>>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
>>
>> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>>
>> kashani
>>
>>
>
> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
>
> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
>
> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
> it also says SATA II.

Honestly, for $50 you can probably buy a new motherboard that has SATA
built-in. :)

This one is normal PCI and has 4 ports for $10 less cost, using
SIL3124 chipset which should work fine in Gentoo: N82E16816124028

As far as speed, I think PCI will be the ultimate bottleneck,
especially if you ever attach more than 1 drive. But it should at
least not be slower than your IDE, and access times should be nice and
quick.

For the alternative of cheap SATA-to-IDE adapter I was thinking of
something like this:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12537



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Donnerstag 24 September 2009, Dale wrote:
> kashani wrote:
> > Dale wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
> >> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
> >> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
> >> have SATA on this rig.
> >>
> >> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
> >> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
> >> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
> >>
> >> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
> >
> > SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
> >
> > kashani
> 
> I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
> before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
> have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:
> 
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003
> 
> I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
> assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?
> 
> Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
> this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
> it also says SATA II.
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-)
> 

it is a pci-x card and expensive. Try to get a nice pci or pcie card.

remember: pci-x is NOT pci-express



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-24 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 
>
> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>
> kashani
>
>

I been looking at these cards on newegg.  I haven't had a SATA drive
before and confess I don't know a lot about them.  They are faster and
have little bitty cables.  I'm looking at this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124003

I notice that it has two internal and two external connectors.  Can I
assume that the "eSATA" means external or is that something else?

Also while I have the link and you are most likely looking at it, is
this a good fast card?  It appears to be a pretty recent revision since
it also says SATA II. 

Thanks for the help.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-23 Thread Dale
kashani wrote:
> Dale wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 
>
> SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.
>
> kashani
>
>

Good idea.  Back to newegg. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-23 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Dale  wrote:
>   
>> Hi,
>>
>> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
>> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
>> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
>> have SATA on this rig.
>>
>> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
>> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
>> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>>
>> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.
>> 
>
> You can get a SATA-to-IDE adapter for a few dollars. That should
> significantly open up your buying options, since nearly everything is
> SATA now.
>
>
>   

There's a idea.  Last time I looked they were pretty pricey.  I could
then use the new drive in the new rig I am saving up to build. 

Thanks.

Dale

:-)  :-) 



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-23 Thread kashani

Dale wrote:

Hi,

I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
have SATA on this rig.

I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 


SATA PCI card should be < $20. I'd then go with a SATA II drive.

kashani



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-23 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Sep 23, 2009 at 10:07 PM, Dale  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
> find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
> fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
> have SATA on this rig.
>
> I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
> little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
> speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.
>
> Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas.

You can get a SATA-to-IDE adapter for a few dollars. That should
significantly open up your buying options, since nearly everything is
SATA now.



[gentoo-user] [OT] Good fast IDE hard drive but cheap and BIG.

2009-09-23 Thread Dale
Hi,

I recently got DSL and youtube is growing on me.  LOL  I been trying to
find a really good hard drive that is around 400 to 500Gb and pretty
fast.  It has to be a IDE drive, you know, the big wide cables.  I don't
have SATA on this rig.

I have a Maxtor that I like and is pretty fast but it appears they are a
little hard to find nowadays.  In matter of importance:  size, price,
speed.  Newegg is great but will consider others as well.

Thanks for any pointers.  Open to ideas. 

Dale

:-)  :-)