Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
Am 25.05.2011 21:45, schrieb Harry Putnam: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for things like ssh between home lan computers. But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections. It must be such a popular method for some reason. But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the address? That is, besides something like accessing the WAP and checking the IPs connected to it. Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool? While I personally prefer a combined DHCP+DNS server like dnsmasq, you can also take a look at the whole Zeroconf/MDNS/Avahi/Bonjour stack. I'm not really sure if you can configure common devices and Linux PCs to use the DNS server for internet addresses and MDNS for local ones. In theory, it should be possible since you can distinguish them (local addresses should not be fully qualified _or_ have the domain .local). net-misc/mDNSResponder, sys-auth/nss-mdns and net-dns/avahi are probably good starting points. Hope this helps, Florian Philipp signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
On Thursday 26 May 2011 17:24:05 Florian Philipp wrote: Am 25.05.2011 21:45, schrieb Harry Putnam: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for things like ssh between home lan computers. But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections. It must be such a popular method for some reason. But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the address? That is, besides something like accessing the WAP and checking the IPs connected to it. Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool? While I personally prefer a combined DHCP+DNS server like dnsmasq, you can also take a look at the whole Zeroconf/MDNS/Avahi/Bonjour stack. I'm not really sure if you can configure common devices and Linux PCs to use the DNS server for internet addresses and MDNS for local ones. In theory, it should be possible since you can distinguish them (local addresses should not be fully qualified _or_ have the domain .local). net-misc/mDNSResponder, sys-auth/nss-mdns and net-dns/avahi are probably good starting points. netdiscover seems to do exactly what the OP asked for, although I have used arping and a couple of scripts I found on the net and modified them. The first looks like this: = #!/usr/bin/env bash quit_on_found=0 packet_count=2 subnet= verbose=-q usage() { cat EOF find_ip 1.0 Robin Wood (dni...@gmail.com) (www.digininja.org) Find used and unused IPs on a network you don't haven an IP address on usage: $0 options OPTIONS: -hShow this message -c packet count The number of ping packets to send, default 2 -s subnet First 3 parts of the subnet to test, default 192.168.0 -qQuit when found first free address, default keep going -vVerbose EOF } have_arping=`which arping` if [[ $have_arping == ]] then cat EOF usage: $0 options You must have arping installed and in the current path for this scanner to work EOF exit 1 fi while getopts :hvs:qc: flag do case $flag in h) usage exit 1 ;; c) packet_count=$OPTARG ;; q) quit_on_found=1 ;; s) subnet=$OPTARG ;; v) verbose= ;; ?) usage exit 1 ;; esac done if [[ $subnet == ]] then cat EOF usage: $0 options You must provide a subnet EOF exit 1 fi if [[ $verbose == ]] then if [[ $quit_on_found == 1 ]] then echo Quiting when found a free address fi echo Testing subnet $subnet.0/24 echo Sending $packet_count packets per IP fi for i in {1..254} do IP=$subnet.$i arping $verbose -c $packet_count $IP result=$? if [[ $result == 0 ]] then echo $IP Used else echo $IP Free if [[ $quit_on_found == 1 ]] then exit fi fi done = Google for find_ip.sh The other which I can't find at the moment prints out the MAC address of each IP address that is in use. Alternatively, run the above script with the -v option and then scroll back to look at the MAC addresses. Of course, I was using this before I knew that netdiscover existed - thanks for sharing! -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for things like ssh between home lan computers. But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections. It must be such a popular method for some reason. But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the address? That is, besides something like accessing the WAP and checking the IPs connected to it. Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool?
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:45:07 Harry Putnam wrote: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for things like ssh between home lan computers. But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections. It must be such a popular method for some reason. But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the address? That is, besides something like accessing the WAP and checking the IPs connected to it. Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool? dhcp can assign static adresses ! Thus, it's easier to manage (only the dhcp server to admin !) I am not english, thus, don't know website with such doc (in english) but you can easily find it on internet ! You have also dnsmasq that makes both dns (for lan) + dhcp (whereas commonly, this functions are split) -- Stéphane Guedon page web : http://www.22decembre.eu/ carte de visite : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.vcf clé publique gpg : http://www.22decembre.eu/downloads/Stephane-Guedon.asc signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
Le 25 mai à 21:54 Stéphane Guedon a écrit On Wednesday 25 May 2011 21:45:07 Harry Putnam wrote: There must be a number of people who post here that have had to do this problem. Discover the addresses of computers on a home network that have connected by way of DHCP. For example: Several wireless connections. « ip a s » to get your IP with your mask and then « nmap ip.in.v4.format/mask » I've used static IPS for around 10 yrs, always seemed handier for things like ssh between home lan computers. But recently started using DHCP for wireless connections. It must be such a popular method for some reason. But when you do it that way, and say want to VNC or ssh or the like to something connected by a dhcp serving WAP then how do you find the address? avahi and zeroconf could be an help. With avahi-daemon running every where and avahi-dnsconfd I just type « ssh -l login myhostname.local » or « ssh -l login myhostname.lan » depending on your configuration. That is, besides something like accessing the WAP and checking the IPs connected to it. Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool? You've got lanmap to, though it doesn't seem maintained IMHO and it depends on nmap. dhcp can assign static adresses ! Thus, it's easier to manage (only the dhcp server to admin !) I am not english, thus, don't know website with such doc (in english) but you can easily find it on internet ! Configuration sample are even given in isc-dhcp-server default conf file, richly commented out. You have also dnsmasq that makes both dns (for lan) + dhcp (whereas commonly, this functions are split) -- Vincent-Xavier JUMEL GPG Id: 0x2E14CE70 http://thetys-retz.net Rejoignez les 5398 adhérents de l'April http://www.april.org/adherer Parinux, logiciel libre à Paris : http://www.parinux.org
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] network discovery tools
On Wed, 25 May 2011 14:45:07 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: Is there some quick and sure way to discover any IPs on the home lan? Some kind of mapper tool? Do you know the MAC address of the device? That's usually written on the box somewhere, so you can usually examine the output of arp -n to findthe associated IP address. If it's not in the arp table, and it's your network, a QAD method is sudo nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-254 | grep -B 3 MACaddress Substituting the address range of your network if it's not 192.168.0. -- Neil Bothwick WinErr 007: System price error - Inadequate money spent on hardware signature.asc Description: PGP signature