[gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-10-29, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Dan Farrell ha scritto:
 On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:13:25 +0100
 b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Think of an AP as a way to connect wireless interfaces to the same
 switch/hub as you can the wired connections.  They usually bridge the
 connections.
 
 You're probably right; you only need an AP, because you likely already
 have a gateway/router.  They sell for about $20 us around here, if you
 get them on the web.

 Exactly what I thought. Thanks.
 As for the brand, is Netgear stuff so bad? Here these gadgets seem to be
 more costly, and Netgears cost much less than Linksys stuff.

I've had good luck with Buffalo AP/routers and xwrt firmware.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread Jerry McBride
On Monday 29 October 2007 10:40:08 am Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2007-10-29, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dan Farrell ha scritto:
  On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:13:25 +0100
  b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Think of an AP as a way to connect wireless interfaces to the same
  switch/hub as you can the wired connections.  They usually bridge the
  connections.
 
  You're probably right; you only need an AP, because you likely already
  have a gateway/router.  They sell for about $20 us around here, if you
  get them on the web.
 
  Exactly what I thought. Thanks.
  As for the brand, is Netgear stuff so bad? Here these gadgets seem to be
  more costly, and Netgears cost much less than Linksys stuff.

 I've had good luck with Buffalo AP/routers and xwrt firmware.

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Do you really need router functionality? If not, I've had tremendous success 
with SENAO brand WAPs... namely

http://www.wlansolution.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NCB%2D3220

Excellent, if all you really need is 802.11b or g and basic WAP features. 
Setup is via web browserand it delivers 400mw of power. Goes through most 
anything and makes just about all other name brand stuff look dismally 
weak...

Usually I set these up behind a linux firewall on their own subnet and 
ipchain/iptable access to users as needed. Works really, really well.

Oh... almost forgot, it's a linux appliance and supports remote syslog 
feature.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread brullo nulla
On 10/29/07, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Do you really need router functionality? If not, I've had tremendous success
 with SENAO brand WAPs... namely

 http://www.wlansolution.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=NCB%2D3220

 Excellent, if all you really need is 802.11b or g and basic WAP features.
 Setup is via web browserand it delivers 400mw of power. Goes through most
 anything and makes just about all other name brand stuff look dismally
 weak...
[...]
 Oh... almost forgot, it's a linux appliance and supports remote syslog
 feature.


Thanks. Looks beautiful, but no way I spend 100€ on a WAP.
The Linksys is a router too, and costs roughly 65€. Router
functionality may be useful for me in the future (If there was a WAP
for 20€, I'd have took the WAP, but it seems its' not the case, apart
from the Fonera rubbish).

My home is little (it's basically a 2-rooms little apartment), so I
guess extra power is not really needed...

However thanks for the tip!

m.
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-10-29, brullo nulla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I think I will settle for this:
 Linksys Gateway Wireless Wrt54g

If you want to run after-market firmware, you need to get the
L version (WRT54GL), or an older version of the WRT54G. Newer
versions of the WRT54G (sans L) have had the amount of memory
cut in half.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-10-29, Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Monday 29 October 2007 10:40:08 am Grant Edwards wrote:
 On 2007-10-29, b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dan Farrell ha scritto:
  On Mon, 29 Oct 2007 01:13:25 +0100
  b.n. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Think of an AP as a way to connect wireless interfaces to the same
  switch/hub as you can the wired connections.  They usually bridge the
  connections.
 
  You're probably right; you only need an AP, because you likely already
  have a gateway/router.  They sell for about $20 us around here, if you
  get them on the web.
 
  Exactly what I thought. Thanks.
  As for the brand, is Netgear stuff so bad? Here these gadgets seem to be
  more costly, and Netgears cost much less than Linksys stuff.

 I've had good luck with Buffalo AP/routers and xwrt firmware.

 Do you really need router functionality?

I do. It's the firewall between me and the internet.  It also
acts as my DHCP server, a caching DNS server, and a terminating
point for VPN connections.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-29 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Dan,
on Sunday, 2007-10-28 at 18:30:17, you wrote:
 Of course you can build a low-power system and probably get by without
 any fans at all if you're clever, and if you outsource the hard drive
 to another computer you get a fairly low power design that's silent.
 
 But not nearly as low power as an integrated device.  
 
 Or as small.  

The one that probably comes closest is a VIA Cx system. I got a Cobalt
Cube a while ago to replace my current guzzler of a server (old HPPA
workstation) and to experiment with other unusual CPUs a bit, and while
it's pretty, small, low-power and rather quiet, it's also quite slow. So
I've just ordered a passively cooled 800 MHz VIA C7 nanoITX board to
replace the MIPS hardware in there and get something that can handle HD
encryption and Samba at a decent speed on top of the routing. The plan
is to build the syatem on HD and move it to a CF card later so I can
spin down the big HD when it's not in use. If it works out it will be a
damn neat system, but anyway it's still four times the size of a WRT54
and consumes twice the power. That's the most powerful chip I've found
in the 20-30 watts-per-system range though, all the recycled stuff I've
run so far doesn't even come close.

cheers,
Matthias
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[gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-28 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2007-10-28, Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Most people go for this option, but there's definitely something good
 to be said about the flexibility (and power!) of using a home-built
 router from a second hand desktop.

If you don't mind the power, heat, bulk and noise. :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT]advice for a wireless router

2007-10-28 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 22:19:05 + (UTC)
Grant Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you don't mind the power, heat, bulk and noise. :)

The trade-off is that precisely.  

Of course you can build a low-power system and probably get by without
any fans at all if you're clever, and if you outsource the hard drive
to another computer you get a fairly low power design that's silent.

But not nearly as low power as an integrated device.  

Or as small.  
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