Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 13 April 2009 02:32:18 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:26:19 +0100

 Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
  On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
   If so, try x11-misc/driconf.
 
  Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too
  old. Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.

 Could be even mesa-only, sorry, because I've used it only with intel
 IGP, but suppose it should be worth a try.

So not ATI-only then. Do you know what package includes libGL? I've looked 
on Google but haven't found anything. I asked this yesterday but just got 
an unrelated reply.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Monday 13 April 2009 11:00:01 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Monday 13 April 2009 02:32:18 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:26:19 +0100
 
  Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
   On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
If so, try x11-misc/driconf.
  
   Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too
   old. Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.
 
  Could be even mesa-only, sorry, because I've used it only with intel
  IGP, but suppose it should be worth a try.

 So not ATI-only then. Do you know what package includes libGL? I've looked
 on Google but haven't found anything. I asked this yesterday but just got
 an unrelated reply.

It depends:

a...@nazgul ~/wine $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-
x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2 in *... ]
media-libs/mesa-7.4 (/usr/lib64/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2)
a...@nazgul ~/wine $ equery belongs /usr/lib32/opengl/xorg-
x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2
[ Searching for file(s) /usr/lib32/opengl/xorg-x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2 in *... ]
app-emulation/emul-linux-x86-xlibs-20080810 (/usr/lib32/opengl/xorg-
x11/lib/libGL.so.1.2)

On a 32bit system, it will be mesa

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-13 Thread Jens Krahe
Am Sonntag, 12. April 2009 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
 On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

 Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too
 old. Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.

Nvidia's closed source drivers don't use DRI.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-13 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday 13 April 2009 10:58:38 Jens Krahe wrote:
 Am Sonntag, 12. April 2009 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
  On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
   If so, try x11-misc/driconf.
 
  Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too
  old. Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.

 Nvidia's closed source drivers don't use DRI.

Ah. Thanks for saving me a bit of head-scratching.

Thanks also to Alan, whose help it seems I can't use after all.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



[gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-13 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Jens Krahe wrote:

Am Sonntag, 12. April 2009 schrieb Peter Humphrey:

On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:

If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too
old. Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.


Nvidia's closed source drivers don't use DRI.


Neither does ATI's.  driconf settings are only picked up by the open 
source drivers that support DRI.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-12 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:

 If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too old. 
Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-12 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sun, 12 Apr 2009 20:26:19 +0100
Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:

 On Saturday 11 April 2009 11:26:11 Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 
  If so, try x11-misc/driconf.
 
 Is this for ATI only? On my box I get a complaint about libGL being too old. 
 Actually, it's absent altogether. I have nvidia.

Could be even mesa-only, sorry, because I've used it only with intel
IGP, but suppose it should be worth a try.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  BTW, the new xorg dri is really slow.

 You need to enable EXA as acceleration type.  And for that, you *need*
 an xorg.conf.

Section Device
  Driver  radeon
  Option  AccelMethod EXA
EndSection

 I believe the default is XAA which is slow.  Also, with that driver,
 it makes more sense to get the latest (~arch) along with ~arch DRI
 kernel modules.  The unstable ones (according to portage) are actually
 way more stable and faster than the stable ones.

I tried EXA but it made no difference.  I'll wait for the ~arch to become 
stable I guess, as it does not bother me.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:08:50 +0100
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I tried EXA but it made no difference.

Prehaps you forgot to setup dri?
If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mick
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
 On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:08:50 +0100

 Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:
  I tried EXA but it made no difference.

 Prehaps you forgot to setup dri?
 If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Thanks Mike, how do you mean set up dri?  It is shown as 'yes' in glxinfo.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-11 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:33:10 +0100
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Mike, how do you mean set up dri?  It is shown as 'yes' in glxinfo.
...
 On Saturday 11 April 2009, Mike Kazantsev wrote:
  If so, try x11-misc/driconf.

Just try this tool, it's GUI, written just for that purpose.
It'll create ~/.drirc file, which was necessary for me (intel igp) to
get x10+ performance gain with OpenGL-enabled games.

-- 
Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-08 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de wrote:
 Mick wrote:

 BTW, the new xorg dri is really slow.

 You need to enable EXA as acceleration type.  And for that, you *need* an
 xorg.conf.

  Section Device
        Driver      radeon
        Option      AccelMethod EXA
  EndSection

 I believe the default is XAA which is slow.  Also, with that driver, it
 makes more sense to get the latest (~arch) along with ~arch DRI kernel
 modules.  The unstable ones (according to portage) are actually way more
 stable and faster than the stable ones.

I just added that line on my laptop and now XFCE is much faster now. Thank you!



[gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-07 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

Mick wrote:

BTW, the new xorg dri is really slow.


You need to enable EXA as acceleration type.  And for that, you *need* 
an xorg.conf.


  Section Device
Driver  radeon
Option  AccelMethod EXA
  EndSection

I believe the default is XAA which is slow.  Also, with that driver, 
it makes more sense to get the latest (~arch) along with ~arch DRI 
kernel modules.  The unstable ones (according to portage) are actually 
way more stable and faster than the stable ones.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [xorg-server-1.5] managing graphic card

2009-04-07 Thread Mick
On Tuesday 07 April 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
 Mick wrote:
  BTW, the new xorg dri is really slow.

 You need to enable EXA as acceleration type.  And for that, you *need*
 an xorg.conf.

Section Device
  Driver  radeon
  Option  AccelMethod EXA
EndSection

 I believe the default is XAA which is slow.  Also, with that driver,
 it makes more sense to get the latest (~arch) along with ~arch DRI
 kernel modules.  The unstable ones (according to portage) are actually
 way more stable and faster than the stable ones.

Thanks for this useful hint!
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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