[gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations

2006-03-26 Thread Remy Blank
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:32:45 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
 Is there any backup tool, which simply copies the contents of one
 partition, which is larger than one DVD, to DVDs as plain as
 possible -- means copies the contents that way, that I simply can
 mount DVD #n and can easily read and copy the contents?
 
 Search the list archives, this came up very recently. i think the program
 recommended was scdbackup.
 
 Note that backing up to DVD/CD file by file will destroy file
 permissions. I prefer to use squashfs to create a compressed copy of the
 filesystem and copy that to DVD. then I can mount it and copy files back
 without losing permissions.

sync2cd

It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.

And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
the files.

HTH.
-- Remy


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations

2006-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:31:52 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:

 sync2cd
 
 It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.
 
 And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
 the files.

That's because it stores files in an archive, which is just what the OP
didn't want. There's a choice to be made, use an archive for 100%
backups, or store files individually for simple copying, you can't have
both. I used squashfs because any live distro with a squashfs enabled
kernel can be used to mount the archive and then copy individual files.
but there are so many backup systems out there, and everyone has
different needs.


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[gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations

2006-03-26 Thread Remy Blank
Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:31:52 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:
sync2cd

It's in portage, but the latest version 0.9 is in ~ARCH.

And it does store the permission and ownership information along with
the files.
 
 That's because it stores files in an archive,

Nope ;-)

It stores the files as-is, in the same hierarchy as the source tree, and
the permission and ownership info in a separate file in the directory
.sync2cd at the root of the CD/DVD.

This means that if you restore a file by hand with cp, you don't
restore the metadata. But if you need it, you can restore it with
sync2cd (which incidentally will tell you on which medium the file is
stored, in the case of multi-CD backups) and the metadata is restored.

 There's a choice to be made, use an archive for 100%
 backups, or store files individually for simple copying, you can't have
 both. 

There's still the solution individual files with separate metadata.

 but there are so many backup systems out there, and everyone has
 different needs.

True. That's why I have written sync2cd in the first place :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: In search of two applikations

2006-03-26 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:43:48 +0200, Remy Blank wrote:

  That's because it stores files in an archive,
 
 Nope ;-)

Silly me, I took all the references to an archive on the web page to mean
an archive :(

I personally wouldn't store backups this way, I prefer a compressed
archive when storing on DVD, but it does seem a good compromise,
especially when the files you need to restore have easily guessable
permissions, removing the need to use special software to restore them.


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