[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Darren Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Quoth the Alexander Skwar
 Darren Kirby [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Quoth the Alexander Skwar
 
  · maxim wexler [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  digg2ogg
  
   should be dir2ogg
 
  0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different
  version should be offered, when you emerge dir2ogg?
 
  Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different
  (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough?

 No, not good enough, as that doesn't matter at all. All that matters is,
 what's in the tree. And the latest stable version is 0.8, no matter what
 you think. The question remains: Why should a different version be offered?

 Alexander Skwar
 --
 A closed mouth gathers no foot.
 
 Sorry Alexander, I just don't get where you're going with this. Version 0.8  
 was released September 27, 2004! There have been 4 major new releases since 
 then, which include many bug fixes, and new and improved features. 0.8 is old 
 and busted, 0.9.3 is the new hotness!

Who cares? All that matters to portage is, what's in the tree.

 Surely I don't need to explain the concept of how software improves with new 
 development? You're not using GCC 2.95 and kernel 2.2.10 are you?

No, because gcc 2.95 isn't the latest stable version in the tree.

Alexander Skwar
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[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?

2006-10-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Willie Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Wed, Oct 18, 2006 at 11:30:40AM -0700, Darren Kirby wrote:
   Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different
   (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough?
 
  No, not good enough, as that doesn't matter at all. All that matters is,
  what's in the tree. And the latest stable version is 0.8, no matter what
  you think. The question remains: Why should a different version be offered?
  
 Sorry Alexander, I just don't get where you're going with this. Version 0.8 
 was released September 27, 2004! There have been 4 major new releases since 
 then, which include many bug fixes, and new and improved features. 0.8 is 
 old 
 and busted, 0.9.3 is the new hotness!
 
 Guys, 
 
 Just to prevent the heat from escalating, may I offer my observation 
 that the two of you seems to be arguing about completely different 
 things?
 
 Alexander (and I, likewise) probably misunderstood Darren's question 
 from the start: when he posted, I thought his expectation that emerge 
 dir2ogg should bring in a newer version than what was offered was a 
 lack of understanding of how the portage tree works

maxim is the OP, not Darren. Darren, on the other hand, seems to have 
some misunderstanding about how portage works. Just because there's
a newer version of some program out there in the wild, doesn't mean,
that it'll be available to emerge/portage through some sort of magic.

 But it seems clear to me now that Darren is actually asking about 
 whether it is polite to give the devs a gentle nudge, asking them
 to remove an old, buggy version of software from the portage tree
 and add/stablize newer, updated versions (and how to go about doing
 so if it is polite). 

Of course it is. You add a bug to bugzilla informing the maintainer
of the version bump. You can find out the maintainer of a package
by looking at the metadata.xml file to be found in the portage tree
directory of the package (eg. /usr/portage/media-sound/dir2ogg/metadata.xml).
What I normally do, is that I enter such a bug and add this herd
and/or maintainer to the CC list.

Alexander Skwar
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