[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user (was: Re: looking for a terminal w/ url activation capability)

2006-08-18 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 09:42]:
 Stefan Wimmer schrieb:
 * Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   wrote on Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:54 +0200 :
 Somehow Stefan's posts get the Gentoo headers inserted somewhere in 
 the middle, meaning that filtering on the List-Id doesn't work for 
 his messages.  Is this caused by his user agent (slrn/0.9.8.1) 
 composing defective messages, or by a mistake in the Gentoo mailing 
 list handling?

I'm afraid this is a consequence of using news.gmane.org with slrn as an
interface to the mailing list :-/

I already mentioned that in gmane.discuss but did not get any answer yet :(
If anyone knows a solution for that I'd /love/ to hear ;-)

PS: If the annoyance for you guys is too big I'll complain more on
gmane.discuss to see if this can be reolveed ...
 
 For me, the annoyance is very big, as your post miss the List-Id
 header and becaues of that, your posts aren't properly filtered.
 That's very annoying.
 
 But somehow, I don't think that (only) gmane is guilty. There
 HAVE to be more people out there, who use slrn and gmane. Maybe
 not on the Gentoo list, but there are so many lists, that you
 cannot be the only one.

Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in 
the body ...

I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org 

Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in 
the body ...

I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org 
since posts to other newsgroups like alt.os.linux.gentoo with the *same*
user agent (slrn/0.9.8.1) and the *same* settings don't move any headers 
into the body.

I'll try to address that again at gmane.discuss but the responsible guys 
there are not very responsive since I already made a note there and got 
no reaction at all :-/

If anybody has a solution anyway let me hear please!!!

Greetz
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user (was: Re: looking for a terminal w/ url activation capability)

2006-08-18 Thread Alan Mckinnon
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 11:55 +0200, Stefan Wimmer wrote:
  But somehow, I don't think that (only) gmane is guilty. There
  HAVE to be more people out there, who use slrn and gmane. Maybe
  not on the Gentoo list, but there are so many lists, that you
  cannot be the only one.
 
 Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers
 in 
 the body ... 

FWIW this one came through fine for me and got properly filtered. I too
got all the earlier mails (using slrn) going into my inbox

alan


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[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Alexander Skwar
· Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in 
 the body ...
 
 I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org 
 
 Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in 
 the body ...
 
 I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org 

Yes, the message came thru *almost* fine - but you repeated the first two
lines two times ;)

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[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 12:42]:
 Yes, the message came thru *almost* fine - but you repeated the first two
 lines two times ;)

You are very helpful indeed - I begin to understand ... ;-)

Some further testing revealed that I can send posts  followups to 
gmane.test without a glitch - the bodies look normal without headers in 
it. You can check that yourself here:

  http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.test/3138/focus=3138

Only if I post to gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64 or gmane.linux.gentoo.user 
the problem with the headers in the body appears :( 

Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? Please stop 
that until the contrary is proved ... I really do my best to find out 
how I can stop this annoying problem!

Greetz
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Stefan Wimmer wrote:
 Only if I post to gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64 or
 gmane.linux.gentoo.user the problem with the headers in the body
 appears :(

It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: 
amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's 
slrn-messages at a correct place.  But after that the other extra 
headers get misplaced.  Maybe this bug is being triggered by the 
first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space?  As 
such a space normally means continuation of previous line.
Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start 
with a space, Stefan?

 Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config?

Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong 
with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] :
  It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: 
  amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's 
  slrn-messages at a correct place.  But after that the other extra 
  headers get misplaced.  Maybe this bug is being triggered by the 
  first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space?  As 
  such a space normally means continuation of previous line.
  Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start 
  with a space, Stefan?

Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string
and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and
this resolves the problem!

 Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? 
  Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong 
  with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself.

Nice that you come up for Alexander ;-)

  Benno

Greetz
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Alexander Skwar

Stefan Wimmer schrieb:

* Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] :



Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string
and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and
this resolves the problem!


This post of yours is filtered properly. Seems you resolved the problem.



Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? 
 Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong 
 with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself.


Nice that you come up for Alexander ;-)


Yep, I appreciate it as well! ;)


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[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Stefan Wimmer
* Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 15:08] :
  * Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] :
   It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: 
   amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's 
   slrn-messages at a correct place.  But after that the other extra 
   headers get misplaced.  Maybe this bug is being triggered by the 
   first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space?  As 
   such a space normally means continuation of previous line.
   Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start 
   with a space, Stefan?
 
  Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string
  and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and
  this resolves the problem!

BINGO!!! This resolved it indeed :) Many many thanks for your constructive post 
Benno! I would never had thought on that!
The funny thing is that I was already searching in my ~/.slrnrc for any
faults and found the leading space in {followup,reply}_string and
removed it becaused I didn't like it. So I fixed it without knowing ;-)

I apologize to all the people who got bothered by headers in the body in my 
posts.


Thanks again Benno!

Greetz
Stefan

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user

2006-08-18 Thread Benno Schulenberg
Stefan Wimmer wrote:
 * Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 15:08] :
  Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and
  reply_string and test this followup now again with slrn ... I
  hope you are right and this resolves the problem!

 BINGO!!! This resolved it indeed :) Many many thanks for your
 constructive post Benno! I would never had thought on that!

/me bows.  :)

Benno
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