[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user (was: Re: looking for a terminal w/ url activation capability)
* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 09:42]: Stefan Wimmer schrieb: * Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 17 Aug 2006 22:00:54 +0200 : Somehow Stefan's posts get the Gentoo headers inserted somewhere in the middle, meaning that filtering on the List-Id doesn't work for his messages. Is this caused by his user agent (slrn/0.9.8.1) composing defective messages, or by a mistake in the Gentoo mailing list handling? I'm afraid this is a consequence of using news.gmane.org with slrn as an interface to the mailing list :-/ I already mentioned that in gmane.discuss but did not get any answer yet :( If anyone knows a solution for that I'd /love/ to hear ;-) PS: If the annoyance for you guys is too big I'll complain more on gmane.discuss to see if this can be reolveed ... For me, the annoyance is very big, as your post miss the List-Id header and becaues of that, your posts aren't properly filtered. That's very annoying. But somehow, I don't think that (only) gmane is guilty. There HAVE to be more people out there, who use slrn and gmane. Maybe not on the Gentoo list, but there are so many lists, that you cannot be the only one. Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in the body ... I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in the body ... I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org since posts to other newsgroups like alt.os.linux.gentoo with the *same* user agent (slrn/0.9.8.1) and the *same* settings don't move any headers into the body. I'll try to address that again at gmane.discuss but the responsible guys there are not very responsive since I already made a note there and got no reaction at all :-/ If anybody has a solution anyway let me hear please!!! Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user (was: Re: looking for a terminal w/ url activation capability)
On Fri, 2006-08-18 at 11:55 +0200, Stefan Wimmer wrote: But somehow, I don't think that (only) gmane is guilty. There HAVE to be more people out there, who use slrn and gmane. Maybe not on the Gentoo list, but there are so many lists, that you cannot be the only one. Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in the body ... FWIW this one came through fine for me and got properly filtered. I too got all the earlier mails (using slrn) going into my inbox alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
· Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in the body ... I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org Ok - I'm using mutt now and hopefully can avoid the annoying headers in the body ... I was looking a bit deeper in the case and still suspect news.gmane.org Yes, the message came thru *almost* fine - but you repeated the first two lines two times ;) Alexander Skwar -- Die Realität ist eine Illusion, die durch Mangel an Alkohol hervorgerufen wird. Durch Alkohol wird die Illusion der Realität zerstört und die wahre Realität offenbart sich einem. -- Drogos on #Artis -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
* Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 12:42]: Yes, the message came thru *almost* fine - but you repeated the first two lines two times ;) You are very helpful indeed - I begin to understand ... ;-) Some further testing revealed that I can send posts followups to gmane.test without a glitch - the bodies look normal without headers in it. You can check that yourself here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.test/3138/focus=3138 Only if I post to gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64 or gmane.linux.gentoo.user the problem with the headers in the body appears :( Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? Please stop that until the contrary is proved ... I really do my best to find out how I can stop this annoying problem! Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
Stefan Wimmer wrote: Only if I post to gmane.linux.gentoo.amd64 or gmane.linux.gentoo.user the problem with the headers in the body appears :( It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's slrn-messages at a correct place. But after that the other extra headers get misplaced. Maybe this bug is being triggered by the first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space? As such a space normally means continuation of previous line. Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start with a space, Stefan? Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself. Benno -- Cetere mi opinias ke ne ĉio tradukenda estas. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
* Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] : It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's slrn-messages at a correct place. But after that the other extra headers get misplaced. Maybe this bug is being triggered by the first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space? As such a space normally means continuation of previous line. Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start with a space, Stefan? Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and this resolves the problem! Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself. Nice that you come up for Alexander ;-) Benno Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
Stefan Wimmer schrieb: * Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] : Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and this resolves the problem! This post of yours is filtered properly. Seems you resolved the problem. Still want to blame me that I'm messed up my slrn config? Sorry, but I don't think Alexander suggested that anything was wrong with your config, Stefan, just with slrn itself. Nice that you come up for Alexander ;-) Yep, I appreciate it as well! ;) Alexander Skwar -- Dabb hehe, I really hate bug reports which are like calling fire department and saying: There is fire here, come! :) Dabb (and hanging up) * Dabb kills off dozen bug reports. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
* Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 15:08] : * Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 13:20] : It is probably a bug at Gentoo: look at the X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org header that is inserted in Stefan's slrn-messages at a correct place. But after that the other extra headers get misplaced. Maybe this bug is being triggered by the first line of Stefan's slrn-messages starting with a space? As such a space normally means continuation of previous line. Could you try adapting the attribution line of slrn to not start with a space, Stefan? Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and this resolves the problem! BINGO!!! This resolved it indeed :) Many many thanks for your constructive post Benno! I would never had thought on that! The funny thing is that I was already searching in my ~/.slrnrc for any faults and found the leading space in {followup,reply}_string and removed it becaused I didn't like it. So I fixed it without knowing ;-) I apologize to all the people who got bothered by headers in the body in my posts. Thanks again Benno! Greetz Stefan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Stefans posts on gentoo-user
Stefan Wimmer wrote: * Stefan Wimmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-18 15:08] : Ok - I removed the leading space from followup_string and reply_string and test this followup now again with slrn ... I hope you are right and this resolves the problem! BINGO!!! This resolved it indeed :) Many many thanks for your constructive post Benno! I would never had thought on that! /me bows. :) Benno -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list