[gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
Ernie Schroder wrote: [...] Yeah, Thanks Neil. After some more playing, it had become pretty clear that xscreensaver was calling for libglade. I want to keep that. I had tried removing the gst-plugins and gstreamer, but an emerge -uaDntv wanted to bring them all back. I've more or less resigned myself to the fact that I'm stuck with a few gnome packages. Try echo media-libs/gst-plugins/etc/portage/package.mask echo media-libs/gstreamer/etc/portage/package.mask After this, an emerge -uDNpvt world should show you the packages requiring for gstreamer or gst-plugins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
Ernie Schroder wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 12:39, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:30:52 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10 +alsa -debug +esd +oss [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.23 -gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama [ebuild N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB Could this be a result of firefox-bin and openoffice-bin being built with gnome support? How would portage know that? I don't understand the gst-plugins connection either. gst-plugins depends on gconf, xscreensaver depends on libglade. These are unconditional dependencies, nothing to do with USE flags. The only way to get rid of the dependencies is the get rid of the dependent packages. GNOME libraries are not only used by GNOME, so you'll find them on most desktop systems. Yeah, Thanks Neil. After some more playing, it had become pretty clear that xscreensaver was calling for libglade. I want to keep that. I had tried removing the gst-plugins and gstreamer, but an emerge -uaDntv wanted to bring them all back. I've more or less resigned myself to the fact that I'm stuck with a few gnome packages. A quick glance at my profile reveals the 'gstreamer' USE flag in make.defaults. Be sure that you have that explicitly disabled in make.conf before giving up. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
On Friday 20 January 2006 11:46, a tiny voice compelled Ryan Tandy to write: A quick glance at my profile reveals the 'gstreamer' USE flag in make.defaults. Be sure that you have that explicitly disabled in make.conf before giving up. You know, I never checked that, although I found the same thing with esd which I did disable. I might play a bit more soon, but I want to keep xscreensaver so I'm going to be stuck with at least libglade. Many thanks to all that have offered advice. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
I was having a very similar problem recently, and it turnes out it was not related to useflags. Instead I was having some stupid gnome-vfs in my world file. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
On Thursday 19 January 2006 04:38, a tiny voice compelled Edwin Kapauni to write: I was having a very similar problem recently, and it turnes out it was not related to useflags. Instead I was having some stupid gnome-vfs in my world file. Good guess, but there is nothing in world like that. Last night I bit the bullet and allowed orbit, libglade and gconf to be remerged. This morning, I decided to be stubborn and make another attempt at removing all traces of gnome. I did: # emerge -C orbit libglade gconf emerge --depclean -p The packages were removed and depclean found no orphans. So I did emerge -uaDtNv world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10 +alsa -debug +esd +oss [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.23 -gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama [ebuild N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Could this be a result of firefox-bin and openoffice-bin being built with gnome support? How would portage know that? I don't understand the gst-plugins connection either. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
On (19/01/06 11:30), Ernie Schroder wrote: On Thursday 19 January 2006 04:38, a tiny voice compelled Edwin Kapauni to write: I was having a very similar problem recently, and it turnes out it was not related to useflags. Instead I was having some stupid gnome-vfs in my world file. Good guess, but there is nothing in world like that. Last night I bit the bullet and allowed orbit, libglade and gconf to be remerged. This morning, I decided to be stubborn and make another attempt at removing all traces of gnome. I did: # emerge -C orbit libglade gconf emerge --depclean -p The packages were removed and depclean found no orphans. So I did emerge -uaDtNv world These are the packages that I would merge, in reverse order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10 +alsa -debug +esd +oss [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.23 -gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama [ebuild N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n Could this be a result of firefox-bin and openoffice-bin being built with gnome support? How would portage know that? I don't understand the gst-plugins connection either. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Hi, In the case of gst-plugins try removing 'esd' USE-flag, must solve the issue. In second case IMHO libglade in fetched by using 'opengl' USE-flag. Try w/o. HTH.Rumen pgpPgGO1WeIyg.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:30:52 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10 +alsa -debug +esd +oss [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.23 -gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama [ebuild N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB Could this be a result of firefox-bin and openoffice-bin being built with gnome support? How would portage know that? I don't understand the gst-plugins connection either. gst-plugins depends on gconf, xscreensaver depends on libglade. These are unconditional dependencies, nothing to do with USE flags. The only way to get rid of the dependencies is the get rid of the dependent packages. GNOME libraries are not only used by GNOME, so you'll find them on most desktop systems. -- Neil Bothwick One of the nice things about standards is that there are so many of them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: getting rid of gnome
On Thursday 19 January 2006 12:39, a tiny voice compelled Neil Bothwick to write: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 11:30:52 -0500, Ernie Schroder wrote: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [nomerge ] media-plugins/gst-plugins-alsa-0.8.10 [nomerge ] media-libs/gst-plugins-0.8.10 +alsa -debug +esd +oss [ebuild N] gnome-base/gconf-2.10.1-r1 -debug -doc -static 0 kB [ebuild N]gnome-base/orbit-2.12.3 -debug -doc +ssl -static 0 kB [nomerge ] x11-misc/xscreensaver-4.23 -gnome -insecure-savers +jpeg -kerberos -krb4 -new-login +nls -offensive +opengl +pam -xinerama [ebuild N] gnome-base/libglade-2.5.1 -debug -doc 0 kB Could this be a result of firefox-bin and openoffice-bin being built with gnome support? How would portage know that? I don't understand the gst-plugins connection either. gst-plugins depends on gconf, xscreensaver depends on libglade. These are unconditional dependencies, nothing to do with USE flags. The only way to get rid of the dependencies is the get rid of the dependent packages. GNOME libraries are not only used by GNOME, so you'll find them on most desktop systems. Yeah, Thanks Neil. After some more playing, it had become pretty clear that xscreensaver was calling for libglade. I want to keep that. I had tried removing the gst-plugins and gstreamer, but an emerge -uaDntv wanted to bring them all back. I've more or less resigned myself to the fact that I'm stuck with a few gnome packages. -- Regards, Ernie -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs
On 12/9/05, Edwin Kapauni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish wrote: [...] Equery depends is a little brain damaged here. It lists _possible_ dependancies, not real ones. Good to know. Is there any more reliable replacement for equery d? Nothing really simple, but you can script it with something like: dep=gnome-vfs; for pkg in `equery depends $dep` ; do t=`emerge -Dvep =$pkg | grep $dep` test -n $t echo $pkg done HTH, -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs
gentoo-user is reading my mind... I just had the same firefox-thunderbird/gnome-vfs/equery depends question this morning, and was on the verge of make a list/forum post. I wonder if I bleed purple... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs
Holly Bostick wrote: And what are your USE flags for those packages? emerge -pv mozilla-firefox mozilla-thunderbird These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5 -canvas -debug *+gnome* -ipv6 +java -mozdevelop +mozsvg -xinerama +xprint 0 kB [ebuild R ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.7-r3 -debug *+gnome* -ipv6 +ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama +xprint 0 kB Total size of downloads: 0 kB Mine is: These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5 -canvas -debug *-gnome* +ipv6 +java -mozdevelop +mozsvg -xinerama +xprint 0 kB [ebuild R ] mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.7 -debug *-gnome* +ipv6 -ldap -mozcalendar -moznoxft +truetype -xinerama +xprint 32,608 kB Runtime Dependencies mozilla-firefox-1.5 app-arch/unzip app-arch/zip dev-libs/expat | = dev-libs/glib - 2.8.2 | = dev-libs/libIDL - 0.8.0 | = media-libs/jpeg - 6b | = media-libs/libmng - 1.0.0 | = media-libs/libpng - 1.2.1 | = sys-libs/zlib - 1.1.4 | = www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.42 | = www-client/mozilla-launcher - 1.39 | = x11-libs/gtk+ - 2.8.6 | = x11-libs/pango - 1.10.1 == gnome = gnome-base/gnome-vfs - 2.3.5 | mozsvg ! x11-base/xorg-x11 - 6.7.0-r2 | virtual/x11 | java virtual/jre As you see, the gnome USE flag is what enables gnome-vfs (as an *optional* dependency, based on the enabling or disabling of that flag), The same goes for Thunderbird. So there seems to be something wrong (in my configuration?) since I'm always having -gnome in my global use flags. But equery says: ~#equery d gnome-vfs mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.7 www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5 Why does it require gnome-vfs when I have *-gnome*? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs
On 12/8/05, Edwin Kapauni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But equery says: ~#equery d gnome-vfs mail-client/mozilla-thunderbird-1.0.7 www-client/mozilla-firefox-1.5 Equery depends is a little brain damaged here. It lists _possible_ dependancies, not real ones. See if gnome-vfs show up in emerge --depclean --pretend. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Getting rid of gnome-vfs
Richard Fish wrote: [...] Equery depends is a little brain damaged here. It lists _possible_ dependancies, not real ones. Good to know. Is there any more reliable replacement for equery d? See if gnome-vfs show up in emerge --depclean --pretend. No, it didn't come up. But I could unmerge it and revdep-rebuild didn't bring it back. So I must have had it in my world file somehow. Many thanks for helping -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
