[gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
Devon Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You both seem to be arguing about what constitutes stable. Yep. For emerge, all that matters is the tree. Nothing else is important - actually, nothing else exists, as overlays also become part of the tree, sort of. > And there are 2 > different definitions: stable as defined by the upstream source and stable > as defined in portage. Yep. The latter is all that matters for emerge. > Not appreciating the distinction, Maxim was asking why he's not getting the > latest stable (expecting the "upstream stable"). We don't know what Maxim expected. Hence my question. > Alexander's comments reflect the "portage stable", Yes. > but don't take in to > account that portage does not always keep up. As it doesn't matter to what emerge offers. > In fact, in this case it's > languished rather badly. Yes. > His issue is 0.9.1 and 0.9.2 should have been stable by now. I agree with this. > > So, while Alexander is technically correct, (emerge is doing exactly what it > should) Yep. I asked, why maxim expected a different result. > this not a good thing, because portage is still delivering older, > buggy code. Yep. > I would suggest Darren look through the develoiper list ( > http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/devrel/roll-call/userinfo.xml) for developers > handling media-sound. Add them to the cc list on the 0.9.2 ebuild and add a > comment asking that it be marked stable. And ask for the 0.9.3 to be added > as ~x86 Very good suggestion! Alexander Skwar -- * BenC wonders why he has upgraded to 3.3.5-1 before teh X maintainer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
Quoth the Neil Bothwick > On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:53:27 -0700, Darren Kirby wrote: > > > 0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different > > > version should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"? > > > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different > > (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough? > > Sort of. Their is a newer version available in portage, but the ebuild has > not been marked stable yet. however, the latest stable is 0.9.2 and I see > you released 0.9.3 in July, so the ebuilds are definitely lagging behind. > > When the package has not changed in terms of build process and > dependencies, you can normally make a copy of the ebuild with the new > version number, digest it and then emerge it. As the author and a Gentoo > user, why not make an ebuild available on your web page and post it too > Bugzilla, then the package maintainer may pick it up and put it in portage I did! Back on September 12th: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147360 I don't know if it is overworked devs, lost in the shuffle, or what, but I've done all I can. I am not going to harass the devs about it... -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
On Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:53:27 -0700, Darren Kirby wrote: > > 0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different > > version should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"? > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different > (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough? Sort of. Their is a newer version available in portage, but the ebuild has not been marked stable yet. however, the latest stable is 0.9.2 and I see you released 0.9.3 in July, so the ebuilds are definitely lagging behind. When the package has not changed in terms of build process and dependencies, you can normally make a copy of the ebuild with the new version number, digest it and then emerge it. As the author and a Gentoo user, why not make an ebuild available on your web page and post it too Bugzilla, then the package maintainer may pick it up and put it in portage -- Neil Bothwick Life Support System Failure - Reboot Patient (Y/n)? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
On Tue, 2006-10-17 at 22:53 -0700, Darren Kirby wrote: > Quoth the Alexander Skwar > > · maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >>digg2ogg > > > > > > should be dir2ogg > > > > 0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different > > version should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"? > > Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different (ie: > newer) version offered. Good enough? Can't argue with that *lol* can I call you UPSTREAM? ;) This is what I do in cases like this (not aimed at UPSTREAM, but for anyone's reference :) 1. look in /usr/portage to see if newer ebuild exists. - if it does, find out whether it's in ~x86, or hard masked, and decide if I want to explicitly unmask it (usually I do). 2. if no ebuild exists, check bugs.gentoo.org and see if anyone has requested it / submitted an ebuild that I can put in my overlay. 3. if not, I look at the app's homepage and see if I really want / need the latest features, and if so I submit a version bump request on bugs.gentoo.org, providing as much help in the testing process as I can. 4. if it's a very popular app, like gnome, then I look for unofficial ebuilds and put them in my overlay. If you try any of these options (unmask, overlay, or unofficial ebuild), then be prepared for issues / bugs. But that's what the game is all about :) HTH, -- Iain Buchanan In order to discover who you are, first learn who everybody else is; you're what's left. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
Quoth the Alexander Skwar > · maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >>digg2ogg > > > > should be dir2ogg > > 0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different > version should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"? Well, I'm the upstream author, and _I_ think there should be different (ie: newer) version offered. Good enough? -d -- darren kirby :: Part of the problem since 1976 :: http://badcomputer.org "...the number of UNIX installations has grown to 10, with more expected..." - Dennis Ritchie and Ken Thompson, June 1972 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
· maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hello group, > > I recently sync'ed portage, but when I did #emerge > digg2ogg it installed version 0.8 which is way out of > date. There is no digg2ogg in the tree. > I thought sync was supposed to "prime" portage to get > the latest versions of software when needed. Yes. > Perhaps I should be adding more? Replace with > something else? Well, how about reading docs? You added an overlay and in this overlay, there's digg2ogg. You tend to forget quite quickly, what you did, don't you? :) Alexander Skwar -- How many hardware guys does it take to change a light bulb? "Well the diagnostics say it's fine buddy, so it's a software problem." -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: how thorough is #emerge --sync?
· maxim wexler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>digg2ogg > > should be dir2ogg 0.8 is the latest stable version. Why do you think, that a different version should be offered, when you "emerge dir2ogg"? Alexander Skwar -- Don't SANFORIZE me!! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
