Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
On Monday 01 September 2008 18:43:35 Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib. I ran into this the other day. It doesn't like the -a or --ask option. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i --ask Encountered unrecognized option --ask. revdep-rebuild no longer automatically passes unrecognized options to portage. Separate emerge-only options from revdep-rebuild options with the -- flag. For example, revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask ^^ You missed this bit. It's working as designed. Command line parsers are written this way to avoid option conflicts. If revdep-rebuild and emerge both have -a options, which one should be used? Logic says it should be revdep-rebuild gets the -a option but what if you do want to pass it to emerge? That's why there's a -- and why you have to use it -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Monday 01 September 2008 18:43:35 Dale wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib. I ran into this the other day. It doesn't like the -a or --ask option. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i --ask- I entered this -- Encountered unrecognized option --ask. -- It said this -- revdep-rebuild no longer automatically passes unrecognized options to portage. Separate emerge-only options from revdep-rebuild options with the -- flag. For example, revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask ^^ You missed this bit. It's working as designed. Command line parsers are written this way to avoid option conflicts. If revdep-rebuild and emerge both have -a options, which one should be used? Logic says it should be revdep-rebuild gets the -a option but what if you do want to pass it to emerge? That's why there's a -- and why you have to use it I saw that but look at what I entered. I did enter --ask or am I still missing something? My command was 'revdep-rebuild -i --ask'. What should the command be for it to ask whether to update or not and pass it on to emerge? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 09:28:41 Dale wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i --ask- I entered this -- Encountered unrecognized option --ask. -- It said this -- revdep-rebuild no longer automatically passes unrecognized options to portage. Separate emerge-only options from revdep-rebuild options with the -- flag. For example, revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask ^^ You missed this bit. It's working as designed. Command line parsers are written this way to avoid option conflicts. If revdep-rebuild and emerge both have -a options, which one should be used? Logic says it should be revdep-rebuild gets the -a option but what if you do want to pass it to emerge? That's why there's a -- and why you have to use it I saw that but look at what I entered. I did enter --ask or am I still missing something? My command was 'revdep-rebuild -i --ask'. What should the command be for it to ask whether to update or not and pass it on to emerge? You said this: revdep-rebuild -i --ask revdep-rebuild doesn't have an -a option so you get an error just like every other time you use wrong options with commands. You should have said this revdep-rebuild -i -- -ask ^^ NB!! Which is what the output was telling you all along. Previously you didn't need the --, but that leads to all manner of horrible screw-ups -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 02 September 2008 09:28:41 Dale wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i --ask- I entered this -- Encountered unrecognized option --ask. -- It said this -- revdep-rebuild no longer automatically passes unrecognized options to portage. Separate emerge-only options from revdep-rebuild options with the -- flag. For example, revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask ^^ You missed this bit. It's working as designed. Command line parsers are written this way to avoid option conflicts. If revdep-rebuild and emerge both have -a options, which one should be used? Logic says it should be revdep-rebuild gets the -a option but what if you do want to pass it to emerge? That's why there's a -- and why you have to use it I saw that but look at what I entered. I did enter --ask or am I still missing something? My command was 'revdep-rebuild -i --ask'. What should the command be for it to ask whether to update or not and pass it on to emerge? You said this: revdep-rebuild -i --ask revdep-rebuild doesn't have an -a option so you get an error just like every other time you use wrong options with commands. You should have said this revdep-rebuild -i -- -ask ^^ NB!! Which is what the output was telling you all along. Previously you didn't need the --, but that leads to all manner of horrible screw-ups A, I gotcha. Keep in mind I'm not a programmer here. Not real sure what the -- means either but as long as it works. Wo Oooo !! Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
On Tuesday 02 September 2008 10:12:33 Dale wrote: Which is what the output was telling you all along. Previously you didn't need the --, but that leads to all manner of horrible screw-ups A, I gotcha. Keep in mind I'm not a programmer here. Not real sure what the -- means either but as long as it works. Wo Oooo !! It's just a convention. revdep-rebuild launches some other process (emerge) so when it does that it takes everything it finds on it's own command line after the -- and passes it on to emerge literally. it's quite a common trick, startx/xinit also do the same thing, for the same reason. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
On Tue, 2 Sep 2008 10:42:27 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: It's just a convention. revdep-rebuild launches some other process (emerge) so when it does that it takes everything it finds on it's own command line after the -- and passes it on to emerge literally. it's quite a common trick, startx/xinit also do the same thing, for the same reason. In general it means end of options, anything after the -- is considered an argument to the program rather than an option. For example, suppose you managed to create a file called -f, rm -f wouldn't work, but rm -- -f would. -- Neil Bothwick Procedure: (n.) a method of performing a program sub-task in an inefficient way by extensively using the stack instead of a GOTO. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
On Monday 01 September 2008 12:23:03 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib. I ran revdep-rebuild last night after the big reemerge it didn't pick anything up. Just to be sure I re-ran it when I got your email. I doesn't want to rebuild anything. Thanks Matt -- %%% Dr. Matthew R. Lee Instituto Biologia Marina 'Jurgen Winter' Universidad Austral de Chile Campus Isla Teja Valdivia [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: meiochile.matthewlee.org %%%
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib. I ran into this the other day. It doesn't like the -a or --ask option. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # revdep-rebuild -i --ask Encountered unrecognized option --ask. revdep-rebuild no longer automatically passes unrecognized options to portage. Separate emerge-only options from revdep-rebuild options with the -- flag. For example, revdep-rebuild -v -- --ask See the man page or revdep-rebuild -h for more detail. [EMAIL PROTECTED] / # Looks like it needs a little extra code. The -p option works tho. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sound hosed after running python-updater
on Monday 09/01/2008 Matthew R. Lee([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote On Monday 01 September 2008 12:23:03 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: Matthew R. Lee wrote: Yesterday I was having problems with a few packages, like openoffice, because of java issues. The advice I found to correct the problem was to run python-updater, which I did. It reemerged 33 packages one of which was alsa-libs. It reemerged alsa-lib, it did not upgrade it. This should fix it: revdep-rebuild -X -i --ask the problem seems to be a link problem with the ALSA lib. When you hear link problem, revdep-rebuild is the solution most of the time. It will rebuild packages that use the ALSA lib. I ran revdep-rebuild last night after the big reemerge it didn't pick anything up. Just to be sure I re-ran it when I got your email. I doesn't want to rebuild anything. I discovered that python-updater can emerge obsolete packages because it tries to emerge exactly what it had before, so when running it, emerge by hand without the = sign and the version numbers -- works much better that way. Not sure if this will help, but possibly. Don't know how the alsa stuff got in python-updater, never heard of python bindings for that. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici [EMAIL PROTECTED]
