Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 22:32:41 -0500 JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well I have been married a little over 5 years. I "let" my wife manage > the finances starting a few years ago. She knows how much money is in > the bank down to a dime. If I tap-mac and get cash, I get the > 3rd-degree of what was the money for, especially if I take out $100+ : ) > Well, you could cut back on eating and save, say half your lunch money each day and stash it. Or switch to tea from *$ Lattes - Only $1.00 vs $3.50. It adds up pretty quick. > I am afraid I am going to have to go the wuss route and ask the > wifey-poo :) > Don't do it. Trust me. You'll pay big time. That $100 will turn into $400 to $1,000 for her, plus a summer of chick flicks. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:08:39 +1200 Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Come off it, how often does she look inside the box? Pay cash so it > doesn't ppear on the visa statement. Install it when she is out at > whatever_it_is_that_women_do_when_they_go_to_the_movies_together. > Destroy the box. Well I have been married a little over 5 years. I "let" my wife manage the finances starting a few years ago. She knows how much money is in the bank down to a dime. If I tap-mac and get cash, I get the 3rd-degree of what was the money for, especially if I take out $100+ : ) I am afraid I am going to have to go the wuss route and ask the wifey-poo :) Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:33:16 -0500 JimD wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:19:37 -0800 > Bob Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 > > JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is > > limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure > > memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is > > going on on the bus. > > > > Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If > > you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the > > newer 7600. > > > > Bob > > Thanks Bob. I didn't think there would be that much difference. The > on-board NVidia is not any faster than the on-board Intel on my new > laptop. I think the only difference is the NVidia supports DX9 which I > don't care about. > > I thought I could save a few bucks... Oh well I guess I will have to > listen to the wife when I tell her I need a video card : ) Come off it, how often does she look inside the box? Pay cash so it doesn't ppear on the visa statement. Install it when she is out at whatever_it_is_that_women_do_when_they_go_to_the_movies_together. Destroy the box. > > Jim > -- > gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Nick Rout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:19:37 -0800 Bob Sanders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 > JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is > limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure > memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is > going on on the bus. > > Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If > you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the > newer 7600. > > Bob Thanks Bob. I didn't think there would be that much difference. The on-board NVidia is not any faster than the on-board Intel on my new laptop. I think the only difference is the NVidia supports DX9 which I don't care about. I thought I could save a few bucks... Oh well I guess I will have to listen to the wife when I tell her I need a video card : ) Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:46:01 -0500 JimD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did I leave anything out that is needed for nvidia on an amd64? Or > should I not expect anything more from the on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 > even though it is running over PCI-e? > Onboard video uses system memory. So the bandwidth to memory is limited by PCIe, HT, and two hops to the memory and back. Figure memory bandwidth around 800 MB/s to 1 GB/s tops, if nothing else is going on on the bus. Even an inexpensive 6200 with onboard memory has 4 GB/s or more. If you need the performance, get either a 6600 or wait a bit for the newer 7600. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] AMD64 on board video
I just put together an amd64 system with the following motherboard: ASRock 939NF4G-SATA2 http://www.asrock.com/product/product_939NF4G-SATA2.htm This mobo has an on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 that uses shared memory. Here is what the product specs say about the on board video: - Integrated NV44 graphics DX9.0 VGA - Pixel Shader 3.0 - Max. shared memory 128MB The system I replaced had a 64MB Geforce 3 Ti 500 that let me play Doom3 and other OpenGL games just fine. I was going to get a PCI-e based Nvidia, however I did not because I thought the on board GeForce 6100 would be at *least* as fast as my older Gefore 3. So I spent the money I saved from not buying a video card to upgrade to 2GB of dual channel DDR400. I am still building my gentoo system now, though I have fluxbox and X up and running. I am wondering if I messed something up because I am only getting about 1,700 fps on glxgears. My Gefore 3 Ti 500 would do 3,000+. glxinfo: name of display: :0.0 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: Yes server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation server glx version string: 1.3 Here is the nvidia stuff I have installed: eix -c nvidia media-video/nvidia-glx (1.0.8178): NVIDIA X11 driver and GLX libraries media-video/nvidia-kernel (1.0.8178-r3): Linux kernel module for the NVIDIA X11 driver Did I leave anything out that is needed for nvidia on an amd64? Or should I not expect anything more from the on board NVIDIA GeForce 6100 even though it is running over PCI-e? Thanks, Jim -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
