Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install - but some progress
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, When I previously posted and got the response below, it may as well have been hieroglyphics because I had no idea what Bob was talking about. However, when I went back to square one and got to the point of compiling the kernel, I still used genkernel, but ran the makemenuconfig utility and saw that the format was as below. So, I made the changes that Bob suggested. Now, I _don't_ get the errors as in my previous attempt and as displayed below. Bob Sanders wrote: After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i /dev/fb0 is the framebuffer. No need to worry about that if using X. But if running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the kernel. There is a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and kernel. The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include - Device Drivers -- I2C Support -- M I2C support * I2C device interface I2C Hardware Bus Support -- M Intel 810/815 And - Device Drivers -- Character Devices -- Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support However, x still won't start and I get the message 'Cannot run in framebuffer mode'. I don't think that I changed anything related to framebuffers when I ran makemenuconfig. It was also my understanding that although I could use a vga statement in my grub.conf file to specify a framebuffer device, that with a gentoo patched kernel, I didn't need to. So, any idea where I made my mistake? Regards, Colleen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFC+J3PBEKKz3fpe6IRAujSAKCEqiHMw8JJY7WjJp5F3hUPastCvQCfRspg CpO2GdrCst6i9ff3Auf2XGE= =NHRd -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install - but some progress
On Tuesday 09 August 2005 08:13 am, C.Beamer wrote: Hi All, When I previously posted and got the response below, it may as well have been hieroglyphics because I had no idea what Bob was talking about. However, when I went back to square one and got to the point of compiling the kernel, I still used genkernel, but ran the makemenuconfig utility and saw that the format was as below. So, I made the changes that Bob suggested. Now, I _don't_ get the errors as in my previous attempt and as displayed below. Bob Sanders wrote: After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i /dev/fb0 is the framebuffer. No need to worry about that if using X. But if running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the kernel. There is a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and kernel. The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include - Device Drivers -- I2C Support -- M I2C support * I2C device interface I2C Hardware Bus Support -- M Intel 810/815 And - Device Drivers -- Character Devices -- Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support However, x still won't start and I get the message 'Cannot run in framebuffer mode'. I don't think that I changed anything related to framebuffers when I ran makemenuconfig. It was also my understanding that although I could use a vga statement in my grub.conf file to specify a framebuffer device, that with a gentoo patched kernel, I didn't need to. So, any idea where I made my mistake? Regards, Colleen I didn't see your earlier post(s). so I can only offer general advice. When you configure the kernel, you need to be sure you have support for all your specific hardware, like cpu, motherboard, video card, USB devices, etc. Also, any feature you want, like frame buffer support, different file systems, etc. Once you get the correct .config file for your particular system and kernel, you can import it into menu or xconfig on subsequent kernel compiles, so save a copy of it somewhere once you get it right. Some items do better compiled as modules, and some need to be built into your kernel. For example, the i2c sensors items do better as modules, and then you need to place entries for those modules in /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel file so they autoload on boot. You also need to configure X after you get Gentoo installed, and rebooted. This doc should help. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml This only works if you have the kernel support for your card compiled in. If you still have trouble, another way to get a functional config file for X if is to boot to a knoppix-like live cd, which configures X automatically, and copy over the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from it into your Gentoo /etc/X11 directory, and reboot. I've never liked genkernel myself, so I always do mine manually. To do this correctly, you need to know what hardware you have, and find it in menuconfig- Sometimes you need to dig down a level to find things. I prefer xconfig over menuconfig. The kernel section in the Gentoo install doc is pretty good- review it again. Robert Crawford -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
C.Beamer wrote: Hi Michael et al, Michael Crute wrote: Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. I was hopeful here. I did as outlined and after running Xorg -configure, the file /root.xorg.conf.new was produced. I got a message stating how to test the xserver. And I still couldn't start x. It's complaining a bit less than it did before, but I'm still getting these lines of error messages: (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found If I need to reconfigure the kernel, fine. However, I need to be told specifically what to do. Yes, I think this is what you need to do. From the documentation for the i810 X driver (man i810), it seems that agp or agpgart are required for your graphics architecture. Normally you can check your current kernel configuration with 'zcat /proc/config.gz | grep AGP'. That should have CONFIG_AGP=y and CONFIG_AGP_INTEL=y. If you have them, but they are '=m', then you should just need to modprobe intel-agp and try starting X again. Long term you can add intel-agp to /etc/modules.autoload/kernel-2.6 to get it loaded automatically at system startup. If they are not set, then you need to configure/build a new kernel. You'll find the AGP configuration options under Device Drivers-Character Devices in menuconfig or xconfig. If you haven't built a kernel before, or if you want some more guidance here, feel free to ask. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
Hello all, This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but I don't know exactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details. First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux. I have installed source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), but have never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo. However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation that doesn't required you to be a geek to understand (I'm a wanna be geek, but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ). Okay, short story first. This was my second attempt at installing Gentoo. The first time, I got to the point where I could boot from the hard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e. my isp via cable modem), I had no connection. I had missed a step somewhere. Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly where I had missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't sure if I could recover from that point. This wasn't a problem and it was a good learning experience. Attempt 2 was successful in that I could boot my system and eth0 was recognized and functional. From here, I did a quantum leap. I didn't know where to start so, I just typed 'emerge kde' 3 days later, kde was installed along with X, which of course I know kde is dependent on. At this point, I tried to startx to see what the system looked like and to try to determine exactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had any further components to install. Well, that's where my problem starts. After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found Now for the details: When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typed gentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=on The reason that I did this was because when I had Fedora Core installed on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot - I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5 I didn't install any extra kernel modules because when I got to the point in the Handbook that showed the command to list the available modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, so left well enough alone. Probably not relevant to this issue, but in my make.conf file, I probably went overboard with the USE flags. I included everything that I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in the make.defaults file. In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that the Handbook said could be used because from what I read in the Handbook, I didn't think I needed to. Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - an Intel i810 chip. Specifics: Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology architecture. Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought that I should have installed an extra kernel module): Graphics architecture: Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) 2D and 3D graphics accelerator Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM) Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory Video resolutions 800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors 1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors 1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors 1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551, which has always been recognized on other Linux installs (as far back as Redhat 9.0), so I don't think that it is special. Any ideas where I went wrong? Is this recoverable without having to reinstall everything? I don't mind reinstalling. I'm doing this on an old PC (600 MHz Celeron processor). The idea is to get Gentoo to the point where I have my Fedora Core system and if I can do that, I'm going to ditch FC4 in favour of Gentoo. Oh another piece of info. This has to be something that I missed doing. The computer I'm using once had Fedora Core 3 on it, I have tried Ubuntu on it and I can run a Knoppix 3.9 live CD on it, so I know that I should be able to install Gentoo on it. If the concensus is that I should again start from scratch, any ideas on what I should have done would be appreciated so that I don't repeat my mistakes. Thanks for the patience in
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. In practice it usually takes a bit more tweaking. On my machine X wouldn't recognize my mouse at all till I told it where it was (/dev/input/mice) and even after that it took some tweaking to make all 5 buttons do what I wanted them to do. I also loaded the nvidia driver because otherwise the graphics suck. After that you're home free. Here's some links to some step by steps if you like. (Note that you don't need the manufactures graphics drivers if your on a server but on a desktop I wouldn't run without them.) Let me know if you have anymore troubles. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/xorg-config.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/nvidia-guide.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/ati-faq.xml -Mike P.S. The first time your issue with eth0 could have been corrected by fixing a kernel parameter that you missed and recompiling just the kernel and modules :) On 8/3/05, C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all,This will be a bit lengthy and I apologize for that, but I don't knowexactly where I went wrong, so am providing all details.First, I am new to Gentoo, but not new to Linux.I have installed source tarballs on other distributions (mostly Redhat and Fedora), buthave never configured Linux in the same manner as required for Gentoo.However, I am not stupid, although not a computer science grad, so all I really need is a push in the right direction with an explanation thatdoesn't required you to be a geek to understand (I'm a wanna begeek, but nowhere near that elite status! :-) ). Okay, short story first.This was my second attempt at installingGentoo.The first time, I got to the point where I could boot from thehard drive, but when I tried to connect to the network (i.e. my isp viacable modem), I had no connection.I had missed a step somewhere. Anyway, I went back to square one because I wasn't sure exactly where Ihad missed the step and even if I could have surmised it, I wasn't sureif I could recover from that point.This wasn't a problem and it was a good learning experience.Attempt 2 was successful in that I could bootmy system and eth0 was recognized and functional.From here, I did a quantum leap.I didn't know where to start so, Ijust typed 'emerge kde'3 days later, kde was installed along with X, which of course I know kde is dependent on.At this point, I tried tostartx to see what the system looked like and to try to determineexactly how much of kde had been installed - ie whether I had anyfurther components to install.Well, that's where my problem starts. After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt backagain with the following printed on the screen:New driver is i810(==)Using default built in configuration(EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory)(EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel hasagpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded(EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error:no screens foundNow for the details:When I initially booted from the Gentoo CD, at the boot prompt, I typedgentoo dopcmcia agpgart acpi=onThe reason that I did this was because when I had Fedora Core installed on that computer, I noticed references to those things during the boot -I ALWAYS boot into runlevel 3 rather that runlevel 5I didn't install any extra kernel modules because when I got to thepoint in the Handbook that showed the command to list the available modules, on issuing the command, I didn't know what any of them were, soleft well enough alone.Probably not relevant to this issue, but in my make.conf file, Iprobably went overboard with the USE flags.I included everything that I recognized or that sounded interesting that wasn't in themake.defaults file.In my grub.conf file, I *didn't* use the vga line that the Handbook saidcould be used because from what I read in the Handbook, I didn't think I needed to.Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - anIntel i810 chip.Specifics:Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology architecture. Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought thatI should have installed an extra kernel module):Graphics architecture:Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technologyGraphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) 2D and 3D graphics acceleratorDisplay cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM)Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memoryVideo resolutions800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:02:32 -0400 C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Welcome to the fun. After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i /dev/fb0 is the framebuffer. No need to worry about that if using X. But if running a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the kernel. There is a how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and kernel. The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include - Device Drivers -- I2C Support -- M I2C support * I2C device interface I2C Hardware Bus Support -- M Intel 810/815 And - Device Drivers -- Character Devices -- Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset support The above should get you graphics, or at least closer. I don't have your setup, so I'm doing a best guess on the above. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
Bob, I2C is not a prerequisite of running X he just needs to configure the X server and it should work. I have run into this before and solved it without building I2C into the kernel (or as a module). All I forgot to do was configure X. -MikeOn 8/3/05, Bob Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 21:02:32 -0400C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Welcome to the fun. After attempting to connect to the xserver, I got my shell prompt back again with the following printed on the screen: New driver is i810 (==)Using default built in configuration (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such device -- I have no idea what this means (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found i/dev/fb0 is the framebuffer.No need to worry about that if using X.But ifrunning a splash screen, then it needs to be defined in the kernel.There isa how-to on gentoo-wiki.org explaining how to setup the system and kernel.The other, you'll need to re-config your kernel to include -Device Drivers -- I2C Support --M I2C support * I2C device interfaceI2C Hardware Bus Support --M Intel 810/815And -Device Drivers --Character Devices --Intel 440LX/BX/GX, I8xx and E7x05 chipset supportThe above should get you graphics, or at least closer.I don't have your setup, soI'm doing a best guess on the above.Bob--- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationIn a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
Hi Michael et al, Michael Crute wrote: Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. I was hopeful here. I did as outlined and after running Xorg -configure, the file /root.xorg.conf.new was produced. I got a message stating how to test the xserver. And I still couldn't start x. It's complaining a bit less than it did before, but I'm still getting these lines of error messages: (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available. Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens found If I need to reconfigure the kernel, fine. However, I need to be told specifically what to do. To refresh, this is my graphics/video info: Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - an Intel i810 chip. Specifics: Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology architecture. Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought that I should have installed an extra kernel module): Graphics architecture: Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP) 2D and 3D graphics accelerator Display cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory (SDRAM) Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory Video resolutions 800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors 1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors 1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors 1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors The computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551, Regards, Colleen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Botched Gentoo Install
Indeed... that was what I needed every time. Try Bob's trick. I don't run craptel hardware (been burned too many times) so perhaps I2C IS required for their junk. Try to reconfigure the kernel per Bob's directions and see if that fixes things. -MikeOn 8/4/05, C.Beamer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Michael et al,Michael Crute wrote: Colleen, Glad to see another Fedora user see the light! Here's the scoop... you haven't botched anything you just need to configure your X server. In theory it is very easy to configure your X server all you need to do is run Xorg --configure as root then copy the xorg config file from /root/xorg.conf.new to /etc/X11/xorg.conf and startx again. I was hopeful here.I did as outlined and after running Xorg-configure, the file /root.xorg.conf.new was produced.I got a messagestating how to test the xserver.And I still couldn't start x.It's complaining a bit less than it did before, but I'm still getting these lines of error messages: (EE) GARTinit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (no such file or directory) (EE)I810(0) AGPGART support is not available.Make sure your kernel has agpgart support or that the agpgart kernel module is loaded (EE)Screens found, but non have useable configuration Fatal server error: no screens foundIf I need to reconfigure the kernel, fine.However, I need to be told specifically what to do.To refresh, this is my graphics/video info:Graphics integrated into the system board into the system board: - anIntel i810 chip.Specifics:Integrated Intel Direct AGP Graphics Accelerator with Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology architecture.Other details are as follows (I provide this in case it is thought thatI should have installed an extra kernel module):Graphics architecture:Intel Dynamic Video Memory (DVM) technology Graphics accelerator: Intel Direct Accelerated Graphics Port (AGP)2D and 3D graphics acceleratorDisplay cache: 4 MB, 100-MHz synchronous dynamic random-access memory(SDRAM)Graphics memory: Dynamically assigned from system memory Video resolutions800 x 600 pixels; 85 hertz (Hz) refresh rate with 16.7 million colors1024 x 786 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 64,000 colors1280 x 1024 pixels; 85 Hz refresh rate with 256 colors 1600 x 1200 pixels 75 Hz refresh rate with 256 colorsThe computer is a Dell Optiplex GX100 and the monitor is a Dell E551,Regards,Colleen--gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list-- Michael E. CruteSoftware DeveloperSoftGroup Development CorporationIn a world without walls and fences, who needs windows and gates?
