Re: [gentoo-user] Building a test system

2009-04-24 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Friday 24 April 2009 12:14:50 Peter Humphrey wrote:
 Hello list,

 I want to install Gentoo on a spare partition as a testbed. It would have
 KDE4 and be ~amd64 throughout. My question is when to set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS -
 whether to do it at the earliest possible stage in installing, or build an
 amd64 system and only then add ~amd64 to make.conf.

 Which is the better option?

Do it at the earliest possible opportunity.

Otherwise you will emmerge world and update to a current stable system, then 
amend ACCEPT_KEYWORDS and update to a current unstable system, effectively 
rendering the first emerge world as completely useless.

Don't listen to people who will tell you c...@p like starting with stable lets 
you find problems and fix them first. This is nonsense as once you start 
going unstable there is no going back, or at least no easy way to go back.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com



[gentoo-user] Building a test system

2009-04-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list,

I want to install Gentoo on a spare partition as a testbed. It would have 
KDE4 and be ~amd64 throughout. My question is when to set ACCEPT_KEYWORDS - 
whether to do it at the earliest possible stage in installing, or build an 
amd64 system and only then add ~amd64 to make.conf.

Which is the better option?

-- 
Rgds
Peter



Re: [gentoo-user] Building a test system

2009-04-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:14:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

 I want to install Gentoo on a spare partition as a testbed. It would
 have KDE4 and be ~amd64 throughout. My question is when to set
 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS - whether to do it at the earliest possible stage in
 installing, or build an amd64 system and only then add ~amd64 to
 make.conf.

Set it as soon as possible; ideally during the initial installation but
right after the first boot at the latest. Then do emerge -uavDN world
before you touch anything else.

Doing it straight after the stage 3 unpack means you won't have to
install, configure and compile a stable kernel, then repeat the whole
process when you switch keywords. The same applies to changing USE flags.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Facts are stubborn, but statistics are more pliable


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Re: [gentoo-user] Building a test system

2009-04-24 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 24 April 2009 12:04:09 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:14:50 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
  I want to install Gentoo on a spare partition as a testbed. It would
  have KDE4 and be ~amd64 throughout. My question is when to set
  ACCEPT_KEYWORDS - whether to do it at the earliest possible stage in
  installing, or build an amd64 system and only then add ~amd64 to
  make.conf.

 Set it as soon as possible; ideally during the initial installation but
 right after the first boot at the latest. Then do emerge -uavDN world
 before you touch anything else.

 Doing it straight after the stage 3 unpack means you won't have to
 install, configure and compile a stable kernel, then repeat the whole
 process when you switch keywords. The same applies to changing USE flags.

Thanks Neil, and Alan too.

-- 
Rgds
Peter