[gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Hello! I have several local users on my machine that are members of the cron group. Vixie-Cron runs as my cron agent. It is running. However, when I setup jobs to run in the users crontab, they are NEVER executed. Not once, not ever! It seems that the ONLY jobs that run are via /etc/cron* Am I missing something? Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
I haven't tried this on gentoo, but in general, and on other linux distros: from crontab(1): If the cron.allow file exists, then you must be listed therein in order to be allowed to use this command. If the cron.allow file does not exist but the cron.deny file does exist, then you must not be listed in the cron.deny file in order to use this command. If neither of these files exists, only the super user will be allowed to use this command. Let me know if gentoo adheres to that also. Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Hello! I have several local users on my machine that are members of the cron group. Vixie-Cron runs as my cron agent. It is running. However, when I setup jobs to run in the users crontab, they are NEVER executed. Not once, not ever! It seems that the ONLY jobs that run are via /etc/cron* Am I missing something? Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Chad Feller wrote: I haven't tried this on gentoo, but in general, and on other linux distros: from crontab(1): If the cron.allow file exists, then you must be listed therein in order to be allowed to use this command. If the cron.allow file does not exist but the cron.deny file does exist, then you must not be listed in the cron.deny file in order to use this command. If neither of these files exists, only the super user will be allowed to use this command. Let me know if gentoo adheres to that also. cron.allow does not exist and cron.deny does exist, but no users are in it. Cron SHOULD be working. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Hi! On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:27:01 -0600 Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have several local users on my machine that are members of the cron group. Vixie-Cron runs as my cron agent. It is running. However, when I setup jobs to run in the users crontab, they are NEVER executed. Not once, not ever! It seems that the ONLY jobs that run are via /etc/cron* Am I missing something? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Renat Golubchyk wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml According to this document, it indicates my setup SHOULD be working. It does suggest creating a cron.allow and adding all members that are allowed to use cron to this file. I fail to see the reasoning of adding users to the cron group AND to this file, but that is something the package maintainers have chosen I guess. Still, it does not make sense why my current configuration is not working. Users are in the cron group. /etc/cron.allow does not exist and /etc/cron.deny exists and is empty. The cron daemon is running and processing nightly jobs at the system level. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Renat Golubchyk wrote: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/cron-guide.xml BTW ... following this document explicity ... it is still not working. $ ps ax | grep cron 3469 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/cron 3515 pts/0S+ 0:00 grep cron $ ls -ld /etc/cron* -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12 Mar 24 13:35 /etc/cron.allow drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 15 15:11 /etc/cron.d drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 23 08:53 /etc/cron.daily -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 220 Mar 18 20:48 /etc/cron.deny drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 13 18:03 /etc/cron.hourly drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Feb 13 18:03 /etc/cron.monthly drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Mar 19 10:41 /etc/cron.weekly -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 616 Mar 19 10:43 /etc/crontab $ cat /etc/cron.allow myuser $ cat /etc/cron.deny # $Id: vixie-cron-4.1-cron.deny,v 1.1 2005/03/04 23:59:48 ciaranm Exp $ # If for any reason you have users in the 'cron' group who should not # be allowed to run crontab, add them to this file (one username per # line) $ cat /etc/group | grep cron cron:x:16:myuser -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: According to this document, it indicates my setup SHOULD be working. It does suggest creating a cron.allow and adding all members that are allowed to use cron to this file. I fail to see the reasoning of adding users to the cron group AND to this file, but that is something the package maintainers have chosen I guess. Still, it does not make sense why my current configuration is not working. Users are in the cron group. /etc/cron.allow does not exist and /etc/cron.deny exists and is empty. The cron daemon is running and processing nightly jobs at the system level. Tom Veldhouse Hmmm I've never had to so more than add users to the cron group... is it possible that the crons are running, but that the scripts have path issues or something similar? kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Curious. I just tested it on two of my Gentoo boxes. added myself to the cron group (gpasswd -a my username cron), then as my regular user ran crontab -e and entered */5 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 'test from user' Just to get it to email me every five minutes, which it is. I've also got an empty cron.deny with no cron.allow (and am also using vixie cron). I'm going to try to debug this with you, so just to throw a couple of things out there: 1) Are you editing the users crontab directly or are you using crontab -e ? Using the builtin crontab edit will catch errors which would prevent execution... 2) Check your appropriate log file (I use sysklogd), so something like tail -f /var/log/syslog might reveal something of interest. Let me know. Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Chad Feller wrote: I haven't tried this on gentoo, but in general, and on other linux distros: from crontab(1): If the cron.allow file exists, then you must be listed therein in order to be allowed to use this command. If the cron.allow file does not exist but the cron.deny file does exist, then you must not be listed in the cron.deny file in order to use this command. If neither of these files exists, only the super user will be allowed to use this command. Let me know if gentoo adheres to that also. cron.allow does not exist and cron.deny does exist, but no users are in it. Cron SHOULD be working. Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
kashani wrote: Hmmm I've never had to so more than add users to the cron group... is it possible that the crons are running, but that the scripts have path issues or something similar? No. I have tried echo commands, which should hit the user email, I have tried simple scripts that put a file in some place for me to find. Nothing works. Tom -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Chad Feller wrote: Curious. I just tested it on two of my Gentoo boxes. added myself to the cron group (gpasswd -a my username cron), then as my regular user ran crontab -e and entered */5 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 'test from user' I just tried this (with the correct email address) and received nothing. Just to get it to email me every five minutes, which it is. I've also got an empty cron.deny with no cron.allow (and am also using vixie cron). I'm going to try to debug this with you, so just to throw a couple of things out there: 1) Are you editing the users crontab directly or are you using crontab -e ? Using the builtin crontab edit will catch errors which would prevent execution... Yes, crontab -e. 2) Check your appropriate log file (I use sysklogd), so something like tail -f /var/log/syslog might reveal something of interest. Nothing special, no errors and no sign of it running. You can see that I edited the file though: Mar 24 14:13:40 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) BEGIN EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) REPLACE (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) END EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:15:01 myserver cron[3469]: (myuser) RELOAD (crontabs/myuser) Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
Haven't been able to reproduce your problem yet, but just out of curiosity: What version of cron are you running? I've got: # emerge vixie-cron -pv These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-process/vixie-cron-4.1-r8 USE=pam -debug 57 kB Total size of downloads: 57 kB You can see that I have pam in my USE flags, I assume you do too? Also, what are your CFLAGS from /etc/make.conf? (just trying to see if I can somehow reproduce your problem here). And finally, if you ran an /etc/init.d/vixie-cron restart do you get any errors? Anything out of the ordinary show up in your logs? Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: Chad Feller wrote: Curious. I just tested it on two of my Gentoo boxes. added myself to the cron group (gpasswd -a my username cron), then as my regular user ran crontab -e and entered */5 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 'test from user' I just tried this (with the correct email address) and received nothing. Just to get it to email me every five minutes, which it is. I've also got an empty cron.deny with no cron.allow (and am also using vixie cron). I'm going to try to debug this with you, so just to throw a couple of things out there: 1) Are you editing the users crontab directly or are you using crontab -e ? Using the builtin crontab edit will catch errors which would prevent execution... Yes, crontab -e. 2) Check your appropriate log file (I use sysklogd), so something like tail -f /var/log/syslog might reveal something of interest. Nothing special, no errors and no sign of it running. You can see that I edited the file though: Mar 24 14:13:40 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) BEGIN EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) REPLACE (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) END EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:15:01 myserver cron[3469]: (myuser) RELOAD (crontabs/myuser) Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
It's Working. [Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...]
Chad Feller wrote: Curious. I just tested it on two of my Gentoo boxes. added myself to the cron group (gpasswd -a my username cron), then as my regular user ran crontab -e and entered */5 * * * * /usr/bin/mutt [EMAIL PROTECTED] -s 'test from user' Well ... it's working now. It seems that there is a delay with registering the crontab change until the next minute at one second after. All my tests were being done for the upcoming minute. A few minutes after sending that last email, the message came ... I altered my crontab and now my other jobs are working as well. Oddly, on my FreeBSD machine, crontab changes take effect immediately (changes two seconds before will still trigger the job to run). Tom Veldhouse -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] CRON (Vixie) not working for local users ...
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:17:35 -0600 Thomas T. Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Chad Feller wrote: 2) Check your appropriate log file (I use sysklogd), so something like tail -f /var/log/syslog might reveal something of interest. Nothing special, no errors and no sign of it running. You can see that I edited the file though: Mar 24 14:13:40 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) BEGIN EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) REPLACE (myuser) Mar 24 14:14:04 myserver crontab[12196]: (myuser) END EDIT (myuser) Mar 24 14:15:01 myserver cron[3469]: (myuser) RELOAD (crontabs/myuser) Then check whether the crontabs get created. They are supposed to be in /var/spool/cron/crontabs/ . Crontab of user some_user should be in the file /var/spool/cron/crontabs/some_user with permissions of 0600 and owned by root:users. Cheers, Renat -- Probleme kann man niemals mit derselben Denkweise loesen, durch die sie entstanden sind. (Einstein) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
