Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-17 Thread Norberto Bensa
Holly Bostick wrote:
> Norberto Bensa schreef:
> > Nick Rout wrote:
> >>ACCEPT_KEYWORDS has been deprecated for a very long time.
> >
> > But you can still use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in /etc/make.conf if you want the
> > whole system to be ~x86. Or is there a better/recommendable way?
>
> Yes, ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is a valid variable name for /etc/make.conf.
>
> It is just deprecated for "on-the-fly" usage, as follows:
>
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge whatever

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Regards,
Norberto


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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-17 Thread Holly Bostick
Norberto Bensa schreef:
> Nick Rout wrote:
> 
>>ACCEPT_KEYWORDS has been deprecated for a very long time.
> 
> 
> But you can still use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in /etc/make.conf if you want the whole 
> system to be ~x86. Or is there a better/recommendable way?
> 

Yes, ACCEPT_KEYWORDS is a valid variable name for /etc/make.conf.

It is just deprecated for "on-the-fly" usage, as follows:

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~arch" emerge whatever

The above is a very bad thing to do, and not because of some judgement
call, but because it will cause you nothing but grief in the future.

If you do something like that, the problem is that Portage will *not*
remember that you authorized ~arch for "whatever" and the dependencies
of "whatever", because you didn't authorize it, which authorization is
carried out in /etc/make.conf for global settings, or
/etc/portage/package.keywords for individual applications-- all you did
was hack Portage temporarily to allow this app through its gateway.

So when you next do an emerge world (or an emerge whatever), Portage
will become horribly upset that there is an ~arch package installed,
when it knows that all that is allowed are the stable arch packages.

So it will downgrade "whatever" to stable. It may or may not downgrade
the dependencies to stable, or may only dowgrade some of them. Which is
all very well and good (unless of course you really wanted the unstable
version), until you do another emerge -D world, and one of the unstable
dependencies which was not downgraded, or was now marked stable (making
it OK), wants to upgrade "whatever" again (because it is a dependency of
"whatever version 2" not the "whatever version 1.5" you have installed),
which will attempt upgrade whatever, but will then be forced to
downgrade it immediately thereafter (because whatever version 2 is still
not allowed on the system).

Trust me, it's extremely ugly and totally not worth it.

If you want to unmask a specific package without going to ~arch totally,
add the package, and its dependencies if necessary, to
/etc/portage/package.keywords. It's a bit more trouble at the start, but
a lot less trouble in the end than using ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in an emerge
command, unless you really mean to only *actively* test whether you want
the unstable version of the package.

In that case, it is useful, because if you find you don't want the
package, Portage will downgrade it automatically for you (or you can do
it yourself, in either case, Portage will not get all confused), and if
you do want it, you can then add the authorization to
/etc/portage/package.keywords, so Portage knows to keep it.

HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-17 Thread Norberto Bensa
Nick Rout wrote:
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS has been deprecated for a very long time.

But you can still use ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in /etc/make.conf if you want the whole 
system to be ~x86. Or is there a better/recommendable way?

Thanks in advance,
Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-16 Thread Nick Rout

On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 21:19:45 +
Gyuri wrote:

> Hello, you shoud use
> ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge program_name
> Good luck


NO No NO NO nO no

that will also emerge any dependencies to program-name as ~x86.

It has been said on this list many times, and in the gentoo docs:

echo "category/package ~x86" >> /etc/portage/package.keywords

ACCEPT_KEYWORDS has been deprecated for a very long time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-16 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Thanks Nagatoro, the combination did it.

Tony

Nagatoro wrote:

> Anthony E. Caudel wrote:
>
>> I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any
>> success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in
>> /etc/portage/package.unmask as so:
>>
>> app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2
>>
>> But I get this error:
>>
>> !!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been
>> masked.
>> !!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your
>> request:
>> - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86
>> keyword)
>> # <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004)
>> # Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in
>> # portage for better observation (and users are clamoring)
>>
>> - app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by:
>> package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
>>
>> I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the
>> wrong syntax or is it something else.
>
>
> You need to find the line in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask that
> masks the app and the add that _exact_ line to
> /etc/portage/package.unmask.
> Since it's also ~x86 masked you need to add
> "app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-16 Thread Gyuri

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:


I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any
success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in
/etc/portage/package.unmask as so:

   app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2

But I get this error:

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004)
# Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in
# portage for better observation (and users are clamoring)

- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 
keyword)

I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the
wrong syntax or is it something else.

Tony


 


Hello, you shoud use
ACCEPT_KEYWORDS="~x86" emerge program_name
Good luck
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Re: [gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-16 Thread Nagatoro

Anthony E. Caudel wrote:

I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any
success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in
/etc/portage/package.unmask as so:

app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2

But I get this error:

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004)
# Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in
# portage for better observation (and users are clamoring)

- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 
keyword)

I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the
wrong syntax or is it something else.


You need to find the line in /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask that 
masks the app and the add that _exact_ line to /etc/portage/package.unmask.
Since it's also ~x86 masked you need to add 
"app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin ~x86" to /etc/portage/package.keywords



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[gentoo-user] Can't get mozilla-sunbird

2005-08-16 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
I have been trying to emerge mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 but without any
success. It is masked ~M (hard masked?) and I have tried including it in
/etc/portage/package.unmask as so:

app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2

But I get this error:

!!! All ebuilds that could satisfy "mozilla-sunbird-bin" have been masked.
!!! One of the following masked packages is required to complete your request:
- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 keyword)
# <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (19 Aug 2004)
# Masking because this package is not ready for prime, but want it in
# portage for better observation (and users are clamoring)

- app-office/mozilla-sunbird-bin-0.2.20050724 (masked by: package.mask, ~x86 
keyword)

I have also tried USE="~x86", again without any luck. Am I using the
wrong syntax or is it something else.

Tony


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