Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On 26 Jan 2009, at 20:11, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there ... If you're happy running a Windows app under emulation, then I think you might find that recent versions of Works support .docx. I think you need to install Works and then the Office 2007 Compatibility Pack. People are snobbish over Office vs Works, but IME Works' word- processor is perfectly adequate functional, and it doesn't feature the ribbons you complain about. However, I fear you may still run into this problem: On 27 Jan 2009, at 04:29, Grant Edwards wrote: ... But if it's a shared document and needs to be edited multiple times by multiple people, you just can't get away with using two different apps -- hell, not even two different versions of MSWord. If you go back and forth many times, the document will steadily deteriorate with each transition from one app to another. At least that's my experience. Stroller.
[gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
Alan McKinnon wrote: Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. Why can't you use .doc? Anything that can read .docx can read .doc no problems. I know in work, we are pretty much pushing the sections with Office 2007 (2008) to use .doc and not .docx... RobbieAB
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Peter Ruskin peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: On Monday 26 January 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. As far as I can see, Ooo-3 _can_ write MSOffice files. Just open any OpenOffice document and try Save As. Does not support writing Office 2007 OOXML format on OOo 3.0 here. Only old Office 97-2003 (binary .doc) format. I think Go-OO has an odf-converter program that can convert OOo documents to OOXML but I don't think there is a gentoo package and last time I read about it, it was very raw (you'll lose data/formatting when converting). Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
2009/1/26 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.compaul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Peter Ruskin peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: On Monday 26 January 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. As far as I can see, Ooo-3 _can_ write MSOffice files. Just open any OpenOffice document and try Save As. Does not support writing Office 2007 OOXML format on OOo 3.0 here. Only old Office 97-2003 (binary .doc) format. I think Go-OO has an odf-converter program that can convert OOo documents to OOXML but I don't think there is a gentoo package and last time I read about it, it was very raw (you'll lose data/formatting when converting). Paul I believe if you build OO from source using portage you get GO-OO, however if you use OO-bin you just get the plain OO package. - Nick
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Monday 26 January 2009 23:23:18 Robert Bridge wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. Why can't you use .doc? Anything that can read .docx can read .doc no problems. I know in work, we are pretty much pushing the sections with Office 2007 (2008) to use .doc and not .docx... I tried that stunt, and got LARTed with a clue-by-four by my boss's boss :-) You'll note that I asked for apps that can *write* .docx. We have this thing, commissioned by the company's parent company, called SharePoint. The budget system is on it, the finance managers all use 2007 and the entire SharePoint is almost exclusively 2007 formats. Now, I don't mind ignoring management types, but I think not being able to upgrade the .za auth name servers because Alan can't write to docx is a very weak excuse (even for me) :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
Nick Cunningham wrote: 2009/1/26 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com mailto:paul.hartman%2bgen...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Peter Ruskin peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com mailto:peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: On Monday 26 January 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. As far as I can see, Ooo-3 _can_ write MSOffice files. Just open any OpenOffice document and try Save As. Does not support writing Office 2007 OOXML format on OOo 3.0 here. Only old Office 97-2003 (binary .doc) format. I think Go-OO has an odf-converter program that can convert OOo documents to OOXML but I don't think there is a gentoo package and last time I read about it, it was very raw (you'll lose data/formatting when converting). Paul I believe if you build OO from source using portage you get GO-OO, however if you use OO-bin you just get the plain OO package. - Nick Compiled from source here and I don't see that. Where exactly is it? Maybe I am missing something. I did check both save as and export with no mention of docx. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Monday 26 January 2009 23:38:46 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Peter Ruskin peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: On Monday 26 January 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. As far as I can see, Ooo-3 _can_ write MSOffice files. Just open any OpenOffice document and try Save As. Does not support writing Office 2007 OOXML format on OOo 3.0 here. Only old Office 97-2003 (binary .doc) format. I think Go-OO has an odf-converter program that can convert OOo documents to OOXML but I don't think there is a gentoo package and last time I read about it, it was very raw (you'll lose data/formatting when converting). I have a stock standard openoffice-3.0.0 here (not bin) and it claims to write Office 2003 XML. I believe from colleagues that this is not the same as 2007 .docx and I believe them as my Office 2003 in Crossover cannot open .docx I could be wrong though - I don't know all the ins and outs of MS's latest format decisions -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:54 PM, Nick Cunningham n...@monkeydust.net wrote: 2009/1/26 Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 3:16 PM, Peter Ruskin peter.rus...@dsl.pipex.com wrote: On Monday 26 January 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. As far as I can see, Ooo-3 _can_ write MSOffice files. Just open any OpenOffice document and try Save As. Does not support writing Office 2007 OOXML format on OOo 3.0 here. Only old Office 97-2003 (binary .doc) format. I think Go-OO has an odf-converter program that can convert OOo documents to OOXML but I don't think there is a gentoo package and last time I read about it, it was very raw (you'll lose data/formatting when converting). Paul I believe if you build OO from source using portage you get GO-OO, however if you use OO-bin you just get the plain OO package. - Nick I meant that Go-OO (the organization) has such a program, not that it is included in the Go-OO build of OpenOffice. I think it is based on: http://odf-converter.sourceforge.net/ which is a Windows .NET program for converting between ODF and OOXML formats. I also found a Novell build: http://download.novell.com/Download?buildid=GuM6LMM9SR4 Again, I've never tried any of this. I found it easier to install Windows in Vmware and be done with it. :) Paul
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 26.01.2009 21:11: Hi all, Other than Office 2007 is there any software out there that can *write* .docx? Work requires me to use this format sometimes (it's not negotiable) and I can get around it 95% of the time, but the 5% causes me insane amounts of grief. Even though Office2007 runs perfectly well in CrossOver, I have to put up with that stupid bouncing ribbon, menus that are not there and shock horror disgust a productivity app that insists on launching all it's windows undecorated (this last is the worst of the worst...). Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. OxygenOffice [1] supports importing and exporting Word 2007 (.docx) files as well as importing Excel 2007 (.xlsx) and PowerPoint 2007 (.pptx). From what I read it was planned for ooo3 to able to write .*x but it seems it did not get in the 3.0 release. [1] http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/word-2007-docx-converter-oxygenoffice.html Some other links probably worth reading: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html http://katana.oooninja.com/w/odf-converter-integrator http://www.oooninja.com/2008/01/openxml-translator-odf-converter-11.html http://download.go-oo.org/tstnvl/odf-converter/ Regards, Daniel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
On Tuesday 27 January 2009 00:46:22 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Alan McKinnon schrieb am 26.01.2009 21:11: Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. OxygenOffice [1] supports importing and exporting Word 2007 (.docx) files as well as importing Excel 2007 (.xlsx) and PowerPoint 2007 (.pptx). From what I read it was planned for ooo3 to able to write .*x but it seems it did not get in the 3.0 release. [1] http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/word-2007-docx-converter-oxygenoffice.html Some other links probably worth reading: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html http://katana.oooninja.com/w/odf-converter-integrator http://www.oooninja.com/2008/01/openxml-translator-odf-converter-11.html http://download.go-oo.org/tstnvl/odf-converter/ Thanks for the links Daniel. A quick scan through them seems to show that the various converters have varying success but none are really completely there yet. It looks like I'll just have to suffer with the Office 2007 abomination a little longer, until Ooo-3.x does decent exports. This is not really one of those things I'm willing to fiddle with and spend time on. It's *much* more fun getting KDE running on my gf's XP notebook for example :-) -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] Crossover Office and Word 2007
Alan McKinnon schrieb am 27.01.2009 00:12: On Tuesday 27 January 2009 00:46:22 Daniel Pielmeier wrote: Alan McKinnon schrieb am 26.01.2009 21:11: Ooo-3 can read these docs but not write them. OxygenOffice [1] supports importing and exporting Word 2007 (.docx) files as well as importing Excel 2007 (.xlsx) and PowerPoint 2007 (.pptx). From what I read it was planned for ooo3 to able to write .*x but it seems it did not get in the 3.0 release. [1] http://www.oooninja.com/2008/02/word-2007-docx-converter-oxygenoffice.html Some other links probably worth reading: http://www.oooninja.com/2008/12/better-office-docx-converter.html http://katana.oooninja.com/w/odf-converter-integrator http://www.oooninja.com/2008/01/openxml-translator-odf-converter-11.html http://download.go-oo.org/tstnvl/odf-converter/ Thanks for the links Daniel. A quick scan through them seems to show that the various converters have varying success but none are really completely there yet. It looks like I'll just have to suffer with the Office 2007 abomination a little longer, until Ooo-3.x does decent exports. This is not really one of those things I'm willing to fiddle with and spend time on. It's *much* more fun getting KDE running on my gf's XP notebook for example :-) Yeah I think we just have to wait some time until the converters are mature. As both formats are open it should be more easier to write converters compared to the old ones that had to interpret the binary and closed MS format. Regards, Daniel signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
