Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-24 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 24 Jan 2009 06:38:50 +0530, Man Shankar wrote:

  mount -oremount,ro /boot solves that problem for me. It's the last
  command in the update script I mentioned before. And there's always
  GRML, just in case :-)  
 
 Since, /boot seldom requires work i have this in fstab
 
 /dev/sda1 /boot   ext2noauto  1 2

That leaves the opportunity to forget to mount /boot when you should.
Mounting it ro gives you a big fat warning if you try to do something
silly.

These days I rarely have a separate /boot, but I do have backups :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 01:53 -0600 schrieb ext Dale:

 I'll show this just in case it will give someone ides.

Here's another approach:

% ll /boot
insgesamt 9644
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   1 17. Jan 2006  boot - ./
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 21. Mai 2008  grub/
drwx-- 2 root root   12288 11. Okt 2005  lost+found/
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4892720 22. Jan 14:25 vmlinux-2.6.28.1.gz
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4892272 16. Jan 15:32 vmlinux-2.6.28.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 22. Jan 14:26 vmlinux.gz -
vmlinux-2.6.28.1.gz
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  17 22. Jan 14:26 vmlinux.old.gz -
vmlinux-2.6.28.gz

No System.map (what's it good for, anyway?)
No .config (it's in /proc/config.gz).
No need to edit grub.conf as the symlinks are updated using a small
script (which also removes old module directories from /lib/modules).
No initrd as an embedded initramfs is used (hence the size of the
kernels).

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Justin
Grant schrieb:
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant



   
 yes if you had selected 'kernel .config support' when you made the
 kernel. that's in the 'General setup'.
 if you did that you'll find /proc/config.gz over there.
 

 I do have /proc/config.gz, but when I move it to
 /usr/src/2.6.25-hardened-r13 and run 'make oldconfig' it comes up with
 many differences.  I'm booted into 2.6.25-hardened-r11 and there
 shouldn't be any config differences between that and r13.  Does anyone
 know what's going on here?

 - Grant

   
do one of those two things and it should work:

zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config

or

/usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig /boot/YOURKERNEL 
/usr/src/linux/.config.

Than run make oldconfig.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 09:28 +0100 schrieb ext Justin:

 do one of those two things and it should work:
 
 zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config
 
 or
 
 /usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig /boot/YOURKERNEL 
 /usr/src/linux/.config.

What if he doesn't have CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y in his (running) kernel?

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Justin
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
 Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 09:28 +0100 schrieb ext Justin:

   
 do one of those two things and it should work:

 zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config

 or

 /usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig /boot/YOURKERNEL 
 /usr/src/linux/.config.
 

 What if he doesn't have CONFIG_IKCONFIG_PROC=y in his (running) kernel?

 Bye...

   Dirk
   
Than he has a non solvable problem recovering his config. But, who will
remove this option?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 01:53 -0600 schrieb ext Dale:

   
 I'll show this just in case it will give someone ides.
 

 Here's another approach:

 % ll /boot
 insgesamt 9644
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root   1 17. Jan 2006  boot - ./
 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root1024 21. Mai 2008  grub/
 drwx-- 2 root root   12288 11. Okt 2005  lost+found/
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4892720 22. Jan 14:25 vmlinux-2.6.28.1.gz
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 4892272 16. Jan 15:32 vmlinux-2.6.28.gz
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  19 22. Jan 14:26 vmlinux.gz -
 vmlinux-2.6.28.1.gz
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  17 22. Jan 14:26 vmlinux.old.gz -
 vmlinux-2.6.28.gz

 No System.map (what's it good for, anyway?)
 No .config (it's in /proc/config.gz).
 No need to edit grub.conf as the symlinks are updated using a small
 script (which also removes old module directories from /lib/modules).
 No initrd as an embedded initramfs is used (hence the size of the
 kernels).

 Bye...

   Dirk
   

But if a kernel gets corrupted or accidentally deleted, there will be no
/proc/config.gz since the kernel won't boot.  I have that turned on here
to but I'm not going to put all my eggs in that one basket.  I couldn't
write a script anyway plus I only update kernels once in a blue moon
anyway.  I'm still running 2.6.23 right now.  The new one is compiled
and ready but I just haven't rebooted in a while.

I was wondering about that system.map thing.  It's been there a long
while.  I just redone my install and I only saved /boot, make.conf,
world and a couple other files, plus my /home naturally.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 02:45 -0600 schrieb ext Dale:

 But if a kernel gets corrupted or accidentally deleted

mount -oremount,ro /boot solves that problem for me. It's the last
command in the update script I mentioned before. And there's always
GRML, just in case :-)

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 09:45 +0100 schrieb ext Justin:
 But, who will remove this option?

This is how it looks like in a freshly unpacked kernel tree (or after
make mrproper):

  Kernel .config support

So I guess kernel devs did it for him.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dale
Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 02:45 -0600 schrieb ext Dale:

   
 But if a kernel gets corrupted or accidentally deleted
 

 mount -oremount,ro /boot solves that problem for me. It's the last
 command in the update script I mentioned before. And there's always
 GRML, just in case :-)

 Bye...

   Dirk
   

I better stick with my way.  None of that made any sense to me.  o_O

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Justin
Dirk Heinrichs schrieb:
 Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 09:45 +0100 schrieb ext Justin:
   
 But, who will remove this option?
 

 This is how it looks like in a freshly unpacked kernel tree (or after
 make mrproper):

   Kernel .config support

 So I guess kernel devs did it for him.

 Bye...

   Dirk
   
kk, thats an argument. I never started from a fresh tree, always from a
existing .config.

Some days ago I found this line in my grub.conf:

# grub.conf generated by anaconda


So it might be, that my kernel-config's history reaches back more than
five years to my old fedora days. :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Norberto Bensa

Quoting Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net:


Than he has a non solvable problem recovering his config. But, who will
remove this option?


Not remove, but someone (me for example) could make it =m ;-)

In that case you just do:

modprobe configs
gunzip -c /proc/config.gz  /usr/src/linux/.config
make oldconfig




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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Alejandro
2009/1/23 Norberto Bensa nbe...@gmail.com

 Quoting Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net:

  Than he has a non solvable problem recovering his config. But, who will
 remove this option?


 Not remove, but someone (me for example) could make it =m ;-)

 In that case you just do:

 modprobe configs
 gunzip -c /proc/config.gz  /usr/src/linux/.config
 make oldconfig



 
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 Why make oldconfig? Is not better just do make and make  modules_install?
make oldconfig only can give you problems i don,t see any benefict.. just my
person experience...


Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
Grant wrote:
 I do have /proc/config.gz, but when I move it to
 /usr/src/2.6.25-hardened-r13 and run 'make oldconfig' it comes up with
 many differences.  I'm booted into 2.6.25-hardened-r11 and there
 shouldn't be any config differences between that and r13.  Does anyone
 know what's going on here?

$ cd /usr/src/2.6.25-hardened-r13
$ zcat /proc/config.gz  .config
$ make oldconfig

:-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Ricardo Saffi Marques
Justin wrote:
 do one of those two things and it should work:
 
 zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config
 
 or
 
 /usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig /boot/YOURKERNEL 
 /usr/src/linux/.config.
 
 Than run make oldconfig.

Oops, my bad. It had already been answered! :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Justin
Alejandro schrieb:



  Why make oldconfig? 
To get all new options in your .config.
 Is not better just do make and make  modules_install? 
It is the normal way to do a make  make modules_install afterwards.
 make oldconfig only can give you problems 
NEVER just always hit enter if you were asked how the new option should
be handled. Read carefully and decide. Plus always make menuconfig and
recheck your config. But nevertheless you need to do a make odlconfig to
adopt your .config to the new config options.
 i don,t see any benefict.. just my person experience...




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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com wrote:

 make oldconfig only can give you problems i don,t see any benefict.. just my
 person experience...

I have never seen any problem with make oldconfig, YMMV, but stating
it _will_ give you problems is simply not true.



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 14:24 +0100 schrieb ext Justin:

 But nevertheless you need to do a make odlconfig to
 adopt your .config to the new config options.

Errh, no. I've built nearly every kernel version since a couple of years
and never did make oldconfig. If it's a minor revision, config options
usually don't change. For a major revision, it's sufficient to pick any
one of the several *config targets.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Alejandro
2009/1/23 Norberto Bensa nbe...@gmail.com

 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  make oldconfig only can give you problems i don,t see any benefict.. just
 my
  person experience...

 I have never seen any problem with make oldconfig, YMMV, but stating
 it _will_ give you problems is simply not true.

 Sorry i forget something make menuconfig :P


Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Norberto Bensa
On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:24 AM, Justin jus...@j-schmitz.net wrote:
 But nevertheless you need to do a make odlconfig to
 adopt your .config to the new config options.

Nope. That's not true.

The diference between oldconfig and just make is that oldconfig
will present a prompt when a new option was added. You could as well
run menuconfig, and you'll see new options labeled with NEW, or
something like that.

If you just run make (without doing oldconfig or menuconfig first),
then the new options will take the default build option. It may vary
between Y and N depending on the module, developer, God, a photon
coming out of some distant star, and the mood of a butterfly sitting
in some flower on Japan.

Regards,
Norberto



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Grant
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant




 yes if you had selected 'kernel .config support' when you made the
 kernel. that's in the 'General setup'.
 if you did that you'll find /proc/config.gz over there.


 I do have /proc/config.gz, but when I move it to
 /usr/src/2.6.25-hardened-r13 and run 'make oldconfig' it comes up with
 many differences.  I'm booted into 2.6.25-hardened-r11 and there
 shouldn't be any config differences between that and r13.  Does anyone
 know what's going on here?

 - Grant


 do one of those two things and it should work:

 zcat /proc/config.gz /usr/src/linux/.config

 or

 /usr/src/linux/scripts/extract-ikconfig /boot/YOURKERNEL 
 /usr/src/linux/.config.

 Than run make oldconfig.

Thanks a lot, *.gz* was supposed to tell me that. :)

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Dale
Norberto Bensa wrote:
 On Fri, Jan 23, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Alejandro elcorreode...@gmail.com wrote:

   
 make oldconfig only can give you problems i don,t see any benefict.. just my
 person experience...
 

 I have never seen any problem with make oldconfig, YMMV, but stating
 it _will_ give you problems is simply not true.


   

+1

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-23 Thread Man Shankar
On 09:54 Fri 23 Jan , Dirk Heinrichs wrote:
 Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 02:45 -0600 schrieb ext Dale:
 
  But if a kernel gets corrupted or accidentally deleted
 
 mount -oremount,ro /boot solves that problem for me. It's the last
 command in the update script I mentioned before. And there's always
 GRML, just in case :-)

Since, /boot seldom requires work i have this in fstab

/dev/sda1   /boot   ext2noauto  1 2

makes sure /boot is unmounted unless manually mounted from the shell.
But, then again mistakes do happen, backups FTW :-)

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[gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Grant
Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Crob
Grant:
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant


   

yes if you had selected 'kernel .config support' when you made the
kernel. that's in the 'General setup'.
if you did that you'll find /proc/config.gz over there.



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Saphirus Sage
You could look for the .config files from earlier kernels, unless  
you've cleared out all your directories except the one with the most- 
recent release.


On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:


Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

- Grant





Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Grant
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant




 yes if you had selected 'kernel .config support' when you made the
 kernel. that's in the 'General setup'.
 if you did that you'll find /proc/config.gz over there.

I do have /proc/config.gz, but when I move it to
/usr/src/2.6.25-hardened-r13 and run 'make oldconfig' it comes up with
many differences.  I'm booted into 2.6.25-hardened-r11 and there
shouldn't be any config differences between that and r13.  Does anyone
know what's going on here?

- Grant



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Grant wrote:
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant

ls /boot

ls /boot
boot config-2.6.28r4.old  grubmemtest86plus  
System.map-2.6.28r4  System.map.old  vmlinuz-2.6.28r4  vmlinuz.old
config-2.6.28r4  dmesg_fsck_segfault  lost+found  System.map 
System.map-2.6.28r4.old  vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.6.28r4.old

config - there it is!

there are good reasons to use debianutils+make install to install new kernels 




Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Dale
Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
 On Freitag 23 Januar 2009, Grant wrote:
   
 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant
 

 ls /boot

 ls /boot
 boot config-2.6.28r4.old  grubmemtest86plus  
 System.map-2.6.28r4  System.map.old  vmlinuz-2.6.28r4  vmlinuz.old
 config-2.6.28r4  dmesg_fsck_segfault  lost+found  System.map 
 System.map-2.6.28r4.old  vmlinuz vmlinuz-2.6.28r4.old

 config - there it is!

 there are good reasons to use debianutils+make install to install new kernels 
 


   

Or just copy .config over to /boot yourself.  I do that when I have a
stable kernel.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread KH
Saphirus Sage schrieb:
 You could look for the .config files from earlier kernels, unless
 you've cleared out all your directories except the one with the
 most-recent release.

 On Jan 22, 2009, at 9:12 PM, Grant emailgr...@gmail.com wrote:

 Well, I deleted my kernel .config.  Is there any way to magically
 re-create it from the compiled kernel image or any other way?

 - Grant


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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread KH
Dale schrieb:

 Or just copy .config over to /boot yourself.  I do that when I have a
 stable kernel.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

   
+1
I even asked to add this to the gentoo kernel upgreat guide but devs
didn't like this idea.

kh



Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Freitag, den 23.01.2009, 08:44 +0100 schrieb ext KH:
 Dale schrieb:
 
  Or just copy .config over to /boot yourself.  I do that when I have a
  stable kernel.
 
  Dale
 
  :-)  :-)
 

 +1
 I even asked to add this to the gentoo kernel upgreat guide but devs
 didn't like this idea.

Maybe they would be more keen on adding a note about /proc/config
support to that guide.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Deleted my kernel .config

2009-01-22 Thread Dale
KH wrote:
 Dale schrieb:
   
 Or just copy .config over to /boot yourself.  I do that when I have a
 stable kernel.

 Dale

 :-)  :-)

   
 
 +1
 I even asked to add this to the gentoo kernel upgreat guide but devs
 didn't like this idea.

 kh


   

I'll show this just in case it will give someone ides.

r...@smoker / # ls -al /boot/
total 6970
drwxr-xr-x  4 root root1024 Jan 16 01:46 .
drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 512 Dec 17 06:07 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   0 Jun 11  2008 .keep
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 1204147 Dec  8 19:20 System.map
-rw-r--r--  1 root root  941986 Sep 11  2006 System.map-2.6.17-gentoo-r7
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root   1 Dec 16 21:09 boot - .
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2460088 Jan  2 20:13 bzImage-2.6.23-r8-7
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 2288336 Dec 30 07:49 bzImage-2.6.27-r7-1
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   44461 Aug 12 02:07 config-2.6.23-r8-5
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   47940 Dec 13 04:50 config-2.6.25-gentoo-r9-1
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   47438 Aug  5 22:43 config-2.6.25-r7-1
-rw-r--r--  1 root root   47324 Aug 12 17:59 config-2.6.25-r7-2
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root1024 Jan 16 01:43 grub
drwx--  2 root root   12288 Jul 10  2008 lost+found
r...@smoker / #


I generally name the config with the same info as the kernel.  Also note
the naming of my kernels.  I may need to clean out some more but I try
to keep at least two or three kernels laying around too.  Never know,
one may get corrupted or deleted accidentally.  Edit the grub boot line
and carry on.

Neat huh?

Dale

:-)  :-)