Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: > Mark Knecht writes: > >> On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: >>> Mark Knecht writes: > I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? >>> >>> There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th: > [...] > >> Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a >> message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe. > > The list has been quite dead since June, then came the posting I quoted, > and since October 8th there were some 15 GLSA postings. So it's a good > resource again now. > > Wonko Good to know. I've gotten so used to getting important stuff via eselect news read that I'm a bit surprised they didn't push a message out about this. None the less, thanks for the info! Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
Mark Knecht writes: > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wrote: >> Mark Knecht writes: >>> I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? >> >> There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th: [...] > Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a > message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe. The list has been quite dead since June, then came the posting I quoted, and since October 8th there were some 15 GLSA postings. So it's a good resource again now. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:32 PM, Alex Schuster wrote:
> Mark Knecht writes:
>
>> Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild
>> about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were
>> showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this
>> point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf
>> and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of
>> packages.
>>
>> I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there??
>
> There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th:
>
> --
> Hello,
>
> In a few days, USE={python,perl} will be removed from the profile
> defaults. There has been sufficient levels of testing so the impact to
> users will be small besides a potentially large number of rebuilds
> which should not be a cause for alarm. The end result will be
> beneficial for a vast majority of people.
>
> See further reading:
> http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_ae405bb743eeda9dc66773998ee50759.xml
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
> --
>
> It has also been discussed a little here, at least in the 'tabbed
> x11-terms/rxvt-unicode' thread. But that only deals with some
> implications of the flag removal, not so much about why they have been
> removed. I think.
>
> Wonko
Interesting. I guess I'm no longer subscribed 'cause I haven't seen a
message from there in months. I'll go resubscribe.
Cheers,
Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
Mark Knecht wrote: On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Not really. This is about it: http://blog.jolexa.net/ I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You can probably do without them set. So who is this Jeremy guy anyway, thinking he'll just change USE flag defaults to make _his_ life easier? ;-) OK, I'm fine with it, and glad to know I wasn't purposely left off the distribution list. I go into a funk and am hard to be around when that happens... ;-) Chaeers, Mark I disabled mine a while back. I had only one package that I had to add it back in package.use. As far as I can tell, everything works fine. Package you wonder: app-mobilephone/gammu python May want to think about removing them, if it interests you. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
Mark Knecht writes:
> Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild
> about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were
> showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this
> point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf
> and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of
> packages.
>
> I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there??
There was a message on the gentoo-announce list on Sept. 30th:
--
Hello,
In a few days, USE={python,perl} will be removed from the profile
defaults. There has been sufficient levels of testing so the impact to
users will be small besides a potentially large number of rebuilds
which should not be a cause for alarm. The end result will be
beneficial for a vast majority of people.
See further reading:
http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev-announce/msg_ae405bb743eeda9dc66773998ee50759.xml
Thanks,
Jeremy
--
It has also been discussed a little here, at least in the 'tabbed
x11-terms/rxvt-unicode' thread. But that only deals with some
implications of the flag removal, not so much about why they have been
removed. I think.
Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: > On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild >> about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were >> showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this >> point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf >> and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of >> packages. >> >> I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? >> > > Not really. This is about it: > > http://blog.jolexa.net/ > > I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You > can probably do without them set. > > So who is this Jeremy guy anyway, thinking he'll just change USE flag defaults to make _his_ life easier? ;-) OK, I'm fine with it, and glad to know I wasn't purposely left off the distribution list. I go into a funk and am hard to be around when that happens... ;-) Chaeers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
On 10/17/2011 05:07 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild > about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were > showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this > point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf > and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of > packages. > > I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? > Not really. This is about it: http://blog.jolexa.net/ I complained about the lack of USE flag documentation, life goes on. You can probably do without them set.
[gentoo-user] Did I not get the memo about perl & python?
Sort of strange. One of my machines just showed up wanting to rebuild about 25 packages due to a USE flag change? All the packages were showing -perl and/or -python. Seemed like a strange change at this point in the life of a desktop PC so I added both flags to make.conf and the machine is once again content to update just a couple of packages. I don't recall seeing any discussion about this.Was there?? Cheers, Mark
