Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Thanks, made a mental: Never rm -rf /dev ;) 2005/6/21, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Sorry, but I have to ask, what was your n00b mistake? I don't want to do the same ::sigh:: Okay, here we go. /dev is full of device nodes that I'll never have, like ESDI drives, fd1 and all those pty/tty's that I had long since taken out of the kernel. So I thought I'd delete everything in /dev (booted from the LiveCD so udev wasn't up), shut off the udev tarball and then let udev recreate only what I had from sysfs. I had over 1300 items inside /dev and it was impossible to easily browse or ls it, so it seemed like a good idea at the time. Now I realize that maybe I should have been more selective instead of rm -rfing the whole folder. Well, that's what NOT to do. Please keep the flames to a minimum. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Colin wrote: Right now, I'm having PartitionMagic 8.0 check each sector of the disk, to see if it was a hardware problem. (It'd better not be, I bought this disk not even a year ago!) If its Maxtor I would not be surprised... -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Colin wrote: Right now, I'm having PartitionMagic 8.0 check each sector of the disk, to see if it was a hardware problem. (It'd better not be, I bought this disk not even a year ago!) If its Maxtor I would not be surprised... Nope, Western Digital. Their drives are pretty good. I've got an old 700 MB drive from 1994 that's still alive and seeking. Besides, PartitionMagic found no errors. I used to use a Maxtor, though. That thing was 7200 RPM, ATA/133 and very thin, so it got very hot very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if it failed. Now it's running the family computer, which is fairly well-ventilated. I stuck a heatsink/fan on the bottom of the drive just in case; it runs much cooler now. This filesystem wipeout was my fault anyway. I made a n00b mistake involving /dev... let's not go off-topic. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I might go with ReiserFS again, because no filesystem is perfect, but Reiser comes very close to it despite this latest problem. I'm also considering JFS, but I can't find any comments about it. Has anyone on this list had any experience with JFS as a general-purpose file system, and would you recommend it over ReiserFS 3.6? I use JFS on my laptop (it's an IBM ThinkPad, so why not use an IBM-made file system?). It has worked great for a long time. I have never lost a file after a crash (I use all the latest kernels, so crashes happen sometimes). I have lost files to ReiserFS on the same machine, but it's been a long time since I used that fs. It could be better now. If you want to be safe, go for ext3. -- Hilsen Harald. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Sorry, but I have to ask, what was your n00b mistake? I don't want to do the same 2005/6/21, Colin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: A. Khattri wrote: On Tue, 21 Jun 2005, Colin wrote: Right now, I'm having PartitionMagic 8.0 check each sector of the disk, to see if it was a hardware problem. (It'd better not be, I bought this disk not even a year ago!) If its Maxtor I would not be surprised... Nope, Western Digital. Their drives are pretty good. I've got an old 700 MB drive from 1994 that's still alive and seeking. Besides, PartitionMagic found no errors. I used to use a Maxtor, though. That thing was 7200 RPM, ATA/133 and very thin, so it got very hot very quickly. I wouldn't be surprised if it failed. Now it's running the family computer, which is fairly well-ventilated. I stuck a heatsink/fan on the bottom of the drive just in case; it runs much cooler now. This filesystem wipeout was my fault anyway. I made a n00b mistake involving /dev... let's not go off-topic. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Raphael Melo de Oliveira Bastos Sales wrote: Sorry, but I have to ask, what was your n00b mistake? I don't want to do the same ::sigh:: Okay, here we go. /dev is full of device nodes that I'll never have, like ESDI drives, fd1 and all those pty/tty's that I had long since taken out of the kernel. So I thought I'd delete everything in /dev (booted from the LiveCD so udev wasn't up), shut off the udev tarball and then let udev recreate only what I had from sysfs. I had over 1300 items inside /dev and it was impossible to easily browse or ls it, so it seemed like a good idea at the time. Now I realize that maybe I should have been more selective instead of rm -rfing the whole folder. Well, that's what NOT to do. Please keep the flames to a minimum. -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Colin writes: /dev is full of device nodes that I'll never have, like ESDI drives, fd1 and all those pty/tty's that I had long since taken out of the kernel. So I thought I'd delete everything in /dev (booted from the LiveCD so udev wasn't up), shut off the udev tarball and then let udev recreate only what I had from sysfs. I had over 1300 items inside /dev and it was impossible to easily browse or ls it, so it seemed like a good idea at the time. Now I realize that maybe I should have been more selective instead of rm -rfing the whole folder. You only need /dev/null and /dev/console to make the system come up with udev. To safely delete other devices without the LiveCD, mount your root fs to a second location with the -bind option, not interfering with what udev puts into /dev: # mount --bind / /mnt/tmp/ # ls -l /mnt/tmp/dev/ total 0 crw-rw 1 root root 5, 1 Jan 8 01:12 console crw-rw 1 root root 1, 3 Jan 8 01:12 null # Alex -- Alex Schuster [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[slightly off-topic] Re: [gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
On Tue, 2005-06-21 at 11:43 +0200, Harald Arnesen wrote: I use JFS on my laptop (it's an IBM ThinkPad, so why not use an IBM-made file system?). I like that reasoning! :D For what it's worth, I use Ext3 for everything (8 different partitions on two disks). I'm a huge Ext3 fanboy... -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. --- Peter A. Gordon (codergeek42) E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Public Key ID: 0x87C59026 GPG Public Key Fingerprint: A5E9 EA8E 146B 4B44 E26A 385B 278C 74CC 87C5 9026 Encrypted and/or Signed correspondence preferred. GPG Public Key available upon request or from pgp.mit.edu's public key server. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Filesystem wars - ReiserFS 3.6 vs. JFS
Who is Colonel Panic and why did he crash my computer? :-P Anyway, I had a kernel panic, which ended up destroying my ReiserFS partition. I had to rebuild the tree from scratch as reiserfsck recommended, and I ended up with my complete Gentoo install in the lost+found folder. I salvaged what I wanted (distfiles and some configuration files from /etc) to make re-installation much easier, and instead of renaming all the folders and moving them back into place (impossible, anyway), I'm going to reformat and re-install everything from scratch. Right now, I'm having PartitionMagic 8.0 check each sector of the disk, to see if it was a hardware problem. (It'd better not be, I bought this disk not even a year ago!) I might go with ReiserFS again, because no filesystem is perfect, but Reiser comes very close to it despite this latest problem. I'm also considering JFS, but I can't find any comments about it. Has anyone on this list had any experience with JFS as a general-purpose file system, and would you recommend it over ReiserFS 3.6? -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
