Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue

2005-09-13 Thread Stuart Howard
 The solution has arrived.
 Thanks Richard for the cifs tip, to lay it out :-
 
 mount.smbfs //NEWSTU/genstubackup /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup
 = This command has a limit on file transfer of 2Gb
 
 
 mount.cifs //NEWSTU/genstubackup /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup
 = This command has been tested with a 3.7Gb file and transfered without fault
 
 
 Many thanks for the help people
 
 stu
 
 On 9/13/05, Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  FYI
  Will try this CIFS later on
 
  stu
 
 
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  From: Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Sep 13, 2005 4:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 
 
  Stuart Howard wrote:
 
  Yes I am using samba to connect to the XP box as you suggested.
  The error report arrived via mail from a cron, prehaps the garbling of
  the message occured there?
  
  Anyway thanks again for responses, I usually clean up /tmp after the
  script runs so I made the assumption later on that the error was at
  the point of creation of the file and not during the cp, so as a way
  of confirming this I have set it off again to make the very large tgz
  and then try too cp it via samba transport to the XP box. [will run
  overnight now]
  If it works ie. if the full file is created [waiting in /tmp] then it
  is samba or if not then a post back to the shell limit. Should know by
  morning.
  
  An interesting chase regardless and if it is samba then will have to
  split the tgz.
  
  
 
  Mounting it as a smbfs filesystem (which does not support file larger
  than 2G) is almost certainly the problem.  Try mounting the XP box as a
  cifs (mount.cifs) filesystem and you should have better luck.
 
  -Richard
 
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[gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue

2005-09-12 Thread Stuart Howard
Further reading further problem, 

I have been through the reiserfs FAQ and discovered that with 2.4 -
2.6 kernels that the file size limit I have posted below should not be
an issue ie. I should be version 3.6 and therefore file size is well
... biG

So I now need to discover where the fault lies, the error message was 
File size limit exceededcp
no google, dogpile or yahoo search admits to ever knowing this error
however I suppose the clue is in -cp ?
/me reads 
GNU docs for tar report no issue's with file sizes below 8Gb and then
only when using specific formats that  I am not so far as I am aware.

To recap the commands I am calling are
tar -czf /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /usr
cp /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup/fullsysbackup
The source is Gentoo box 2.6.11.5 on a reiserfs partition, the file is
created but will not exceed 2Gb or 2,147,483,647. Once created [though
the file should be larger] it is dutifully transfered to the XP box
via cp.

any suggestions on this ?

Beginning to suspect I am not seeing wood for tree's but if anyone has
an axe please throw it my way.

stu

ps. For my North American cousins, cricket is a game where 13 men
stand in a field for 5 days and hurl a small leather ball at 3 sticks
in  the ground with the aim of disturbing 2 smaller pieces of wood
from the top of the aforesaid 3 sticks :)



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From: Stuart Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sep 12, 2005 9:09 PM
Subject: reiserfs file size issue
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org


Hi people

This question follows on from a post I made regarding a hard drive
death and backup problems, I made a little script that tar and gzip's
each of the root directories in order. At the point of /usr which is a
very large one I get the following error
   /root/fullsysbackup.sh: line 30: 18492 File size limit exceededcp
/tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz

When checking the file size I see that it is approx 2.1Gb and to be
exact = 2^31 -1

After a fair bit of checking around into possible causes of the error
[samba, cp, backup box runs XP, and finally reiserfs] I discovered
from the reiser site that it has a file size limit of ... 2^31 -1.
However this seemed strange but I accepted it. I asked a friend who is
of the beleif that reiserfs 3.5 had the limit but 3.6 does not.

Now for the silly question of the day, how do I know what version of
reiserfs I have installed?

OK well it is possible that I have got the wrong end of the stick at
this point and indeed the file size limit is 2.1Gb, the solution would
be to split the tgz on backup but I also have some rather large movie
type files and Iwould rather have a fs that works for me rather than
the other way around.

I dont want to turn this thread into everyones favorite which fs for
me? but any simplistic advice on the status of reiserfs file size
limits and such would be helpful.

stu

ps. Comon England and up the Aussies :) we won the ashes!
pps. Its a cricket thing ^^ ;)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue

2005-09-12 Thread Willie Wong
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 11:40:05PM +0200, Stuart Howard wrote:
 Further reading further problem, 
 
 I have been through the reiserfs FAQ and discovered that with 2.4 -
 2.6 kernels that the file size limit I have posted below should not be
 an issue ie. I should be version 3.6 and therefore file size is well
 ... biG
 
 So I now need to discover where the fault lies, the error message was 
 File size limit exceededcp
 no google, dogpile or yahoo search admits to ever knowing this error
 however I suppose the clue is in -cp ?

the cp is from your command: cp /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz ...
The error message is NOT File size limit exceededcp. The error message
should be
   line 30: cp /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz ... File size limit exceeded
I am not quite sure why the error message got jumbled up the way it
did in your case. 

 To recap the commands I am calling are
 tar -czf /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /usr
 cp /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup/fullsysbackup
 The source is Gentoo box 2.6.11.5 on a reiserfs partition, the file is
 created but will not exceed 2Gb or 2,147,483,647. Once created [though
 the file should be larger] it is dutifully transfered to the XP box
 via cp.

The problem is here. The kernel code used to access smbfs (I presume
that is how you mount your XP box to /mnt/NEWSTU?) has a file size
limit of 2/4GB (I am not quite sure about the number).

http://lists.suse.com/archive/suse-amd64/2004-May/0058.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue

2005-09-12 Thread Mike Williams
On Monday 12 September 2005 22:40, Stuart Howard wrote:
 To recap the commands I am calling are
     tar -czf /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /usr
     cp /tmp/fullsysbackupusr.tgz /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup/fullsysbackup

Is NEWSTU a samba mount from the XP box?

 The source is Gentoo box 2.6.11.5 on a reiserfs partition, the file is
 created but will not exceed 2Gb or 2,147,483,647. Once created [though
 the file should be larger] it is dutifully transfered to the XP box
 via cp.

OK, I assume you're running this from some sort of script?
If the file isn't getting created fully, I'd go for it being tar at fault, as 
I know reiser has no problems with files well over 2GB.

Personally, I'd just bypass the whole issue, and use a better method for 
backing up.
My favourite system is rdiff-backup 
(rdiff-backup /usr /mnt/NEWSTU/genstubackup/fullsysbackup).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: reiserfs file size issue

2005-09-12 Thread Richard Fish

Stuart Howard wrote:


Yes I am using samba to connect to the XP box as you suggested.
The error report arrived via mail from a cron, prehaps the garbling of
the message occured there?

Anyway thanks again for responses, I usually clean up /tmp after the
script runs so I made the assumption later on that the error was at
the point of creation of the file and not during the cp, so as a way
of confirming this I have set it off again to make the very large tgz
and then try too cp it via samba transport to the XP box. [will run
overnight now]
If it works ie. if the full file is created [waiting in /tmp] then it
is samba or if not then a post back to the shell limit. Should know by
morning.

An interesting chase regardless and if it is samba then will have to
split the tgz.
 



Mounting it as a smbfs filesystem (which does not support file larger 
than 2G) is almost certainly the problem.  Try mounting the XP box as a 
cifs (mount.cifs) filesystem and you should have better luck.


-Richard

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