Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-13 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Saturday 13 May 2006 14:05, Mick wrote:
 On 12/05/06, Jed R. Mallen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Install them both and if you use a graphical login (gdm is my choice),
  you can choose which wm/de you want to go in for that session via a
  menu.

 Is there an xdm chooser so that one can manually choose between WM/DE
 at the time of login?

xdm - not that I know
kdm - just click on 'menu' and select 'session type', there all availabe de/wm 
are listed.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-12 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Thursday 11 May 2006 15:25, Christopher E wrote:
 Hello All,

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

yes, you can have them both installed.

If you are using kdm as login manager, click on 'menu' and select 'session 
type' to choose which DE should be started.

You can even have them both running at the same time!

Start X. like with gdm, log in, open an xterm,type:
xinit -e xterm -- :1

voila, a second X session on alf+ctrl+f8 was started. Now you can start any 
desktop you want there, and switch back to the original instance on F7.

Isn't that pure luxury?
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[gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello All,

Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
may figure out which one I would wather use.

Sincerely,
Christopher

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:25 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

This is Unix, not Windows ;-) So yes, they can.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Christopher E

Hello Dirk,

Yeah I am glad its not windows :-) I had a feeling the answer was yes.

So after I do a emerge what do I need to do to make them play nice
together?  How do I start one over the other?  Now I type in either
startx or gdm for Gnome.

Thanks ahead of time for your help.

Sincerely,
Christopher

On 5/11/06, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:25 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
 causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
 may figure out which one I would wather use.

This is Unix, not Windows ;-) So yes, they can.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Philip Webb
060511 Christopher E wrote:
 Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together
 and if so could someone please walk me through it
 so I may figure out which one I would wather use.

Your question is a bit confusing, but in general
you can have as many desktop/window managers installed as you want
 use any  1  of them as  when you wish. 
While you can't run the DE's simultaneously,
you can usually use eg Gnome-oriented apps on KDE  vice versa.

To get both Gnome  KDE, emerge the appropriate parts
-- I don't use Gnome itself, tho' I have much of it installed,
 KDE now comes in modules, some of which are essential, others a choice --
then edit  ~/.xinitrc  to start the one you want with 'startx'.
That's if you boot into a raw terminal: if you boot into X straight off,
then you need to get them listed in Kdm or Gdm or whatever you use.
I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc

  # PP 050123 : for KDE
  xscreensaver 
  startkde

  # PP 050619 : for Fluxbox
  xscreensaver 
  fluxbox

Normally, .xinitrc looks like the former, but if I want to use Fluxbox,
I can replace it with the latter by a simple copy;
you would have 'gnome' (or however you start Gnome) for 'fluxbox'.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Donnerstag, 11. Mai 2006 15:51 schrieb ext Christopher E:

 So after I do a emerge what do I need to do to make them play nice
 together?  How do I start one over the other?  Now I type in either
 startx or gdm for Gnome.

Once you have emerged both, select which display manager to use (either gdm 
or kdm, it doesn't matter) in /etc/rc.conf.

At login time, both let you select which Desktop to start. Once started, you 
can both will happily run one or th others apps.

Bye...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Zac Slade
On Thursday 11 May 2006 09:14, Philip Webb wrote:
 To get both Gnome  KDE, emerge the appropriate parts
 -- I don't use Gnome itself, tho' I have much of it installed,
  KDE now comes in modules, some of which are essential, others a choice --
 then edit  ~/.xinitrc  to start the one you want with 'startx'.
 That's if you boot into a raw terminal: if you boot into X straight off,
 then you need to get them listed in Kdm or Gdm or whatever you use.
 I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc

   # PP 050123 : for KDE
   xscreensaver 
   startkde

   # PP 050619 : for Fluxbox
   xscreensaver 
   fluxbox
There is no need to go through this trouble.  It's gentoo.  You can set the 
system default WM/DE in /etc/rc.conf.  To select a different WM/DE when you 
startx all you have to do is export XSESSION=name of wm.  Then you will 
have the window manager/desktop environment of your choice.  If you are 
already using kdm/gdm as a login manager then you have the ability to easily 
select what environment you want each time you login.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Roy Wright

Philip Webb wrote:

Your question is a bit confusing, but in general
you can have as many desktop/window managers installed as you want
 use any  1  of them as  when you wish. 
While you can't run the DE's simultaneously,

you can usually use eg Gnome-oriented apps on KDE  vice versa.
  
Actually you can run both KDE and gnome at the same time.  Just log in 
using one
then start a new session using the other.  I just verified this using 
KDM, started my

normal KDE session, then from the Kicker menu, choose Switch User, Start New
Session then choose the gnome session type from KDM and logged in.  Now can
switch between the two using ctrl-alt-F7/ctrl-alt-F8.

Have fun,
Roy
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Mick

On 11/05/06, Roy Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Philip Webb wrote:



normal KDE session, then from the Kicker menu, choose Switch User, Start New
Session then choose the gnome session type from KDM and logged in.  Now can
switch between the two using ctrl-alt-F7/ctrl-alt-F8.


Alternatively, if you use a lightweight DM like fluxbox, instead of
using xinitrc you can add this to your /etc/rc.conf:
==
XSESSION=fluxbox
==

Then add this to your ~/.xsession:
==
exec /usr/local/bin/fluxbox
==

Running startx from console will launch fluxbox and if you want to
launch KDE or Gnome then just type startkde from a terminal or
whatever one types to start gnome (never tried it because I do not use
Gnome).

PS.  Is /etc/rc.conf still in use?  I thought its been deprecated . . .
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Philip Webb
060511 Zac Slade wrote:
 On Thursday 11 May 2006 09:14, Philip Webb wrote:
 I boot into a raw terminal, then 'startx'  have  2  versions of  .xinitrc
 There is no need to go through this trouble.
 To select a different WM/DE when you startx
 all you have to do is export XSESSION=name of wm.

Well, everyone has their own way (smile).
'cp .xinitrc-fb .xinitrc' -- overwrite? -- 'y' -- 'startx'
seems simpler than fiddling with  /etc/rc.confXSESSION  ...

I avoid Kdm etc as creating an extra level of possible errors:
in much earlier times, I was caught once after changing a config file,
when Kdm produced an error  I couldn't login at all.
Yes today, I know what to do  it doesn't happen anyway,
but why create a potential hazard just to have a pretty box to pop up ?

But as I say, everyone has their preferred way of doing things.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome and KDE on same system!

2006-05-11 Thread Jed R. Mallen

On 5/11/06, Christopher E [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello All,

Could Gnome and KDE run on the same system happly together with out
causing issue and if so could someone please walk me through it so I
may figure out which one I would wather use.


Install them both and if you use a graphical login (gdm is my choice),
you can choose which wm/de you want to go in for that session via a
menu.

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