Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-20 Thread Iain Buchanan
On Fri, 2008-07-18 at 04:19 -0700, jalves wrote:
 
 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
  How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
  this type of installation?
  I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
  task.
 
  The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
  rid of CD all together. 
 
 Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
 to do.
 
 (I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
  home if you still need to know).
 
 -Jeremy

You can install gentoo from anything that can boot the livecd (I
think).  I've written some instructions on how to get the livecd onto a
usb key - it's surprisingly simple.  I used it to install this laptop :)

see
http://nthrbldyblg.blogspot.com/2008/06/gentoo-linux-live-usb-key.html

I would appreciate any suggestions and improvements to the steps, if you
end up trying it.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-17 Thread jalves
Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
to do.

(I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
 home if you still need to know).

-Jeremy

On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
 How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
 this type of installation?
 I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
 task.

 The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
 rid of CD all together. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-17 Thread Allan Gottlieb
At Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:19:45 -0700 jalves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not hard!  I forget exactly what I did, but it was pretty easy
 to do.

 (I don't remember all the steps, but I can tell you after I get
  home if you still need to know).

 On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 07:48:38PM -0600, Joseph wrote:
 How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
 this type of installation?
 I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
 task.

 The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
 rid of CD all together. 

I not done it but you might try
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/liveusb.xml.

allan
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-13 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Neil Bothwick wrote:
  You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is
  something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar
  and zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

 Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on
 Windows, but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to
 kill.

Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think 
installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a 
program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install 
itself.

When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by 
themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by 
one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes 
it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be 
the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.

When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show 
them wubi... :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-13 Thread liu shukui
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Side point: it never ceases to amaze me the extent to which people think
 installation is some magical procedure with voodoo in it, or that a
 program (which is not installed yet!) somehow manages to install
 itself.

 When I give classes I usually let people do at least one install by
 themselves, then take them through the real underlying steps one by
 one: the installer is a regular program, it reads some data and writes
 it to disk. Assuming it isn't buggy, what it writes just happens to be
 the right thing that will boot an OS at next restart.

 When they get that and enlightenment dawns on their faces, then I show
 them wubi... :-)
~~My God.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-12 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Saturday 12 July 2008, Albert Hopkins wrote:
 On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 20:33 -0600, Joseph wrote:
  How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?

 The short answer is who says it has to be a bootable CD image?. 
 There are plenty of USB-based linux images out there... just use one
 of those.

I've done it this way too. All you really need is a system running that 
can chroot and unpack the stage 3 and portage tarballs. Like Albert I 
happened to use RIPLinux - very small, supports just about everything.

You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-12 Thread Robert Bridge
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
 something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
 zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

Argh... Now I feel this urge to achieve that! 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-12 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Samstag, 12. Juli 2008 schrieb Robert Bridge:
 On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200

 Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is
  something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and
  zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

 Argh... Now I feel this urge to achieve that!

I'm sure you can resist ;-)

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 09:43:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 You don't need a Gentoo system to install Gentoo, all you need is 
 something that can deal with the filesystem you want to use, tar and 
 zip/bzip. Theoretically, even Windows could do it.

Don't you need chroot too? I suppose you could install cygwin on Windows,
but anyone who goes that route has far too much time to kill.

I installed my Eee from an SD card containing EeexUbunbtu. As you say,
anything that gives you a working Linux system will serve as an install
platform.


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[gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-11 Thread Joseph

How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported this 
type of installation?
I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy task.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get rid of CD all together. 


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 19:48 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported 
 this type of installation?
 I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy 
 task.
 
 The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get 
 rid of CD all together. 

I personally have installed Gentoo from USB stick (RIPLinux) many times
without any issues.  There's really no difference.

With the way the Gentoo works, all you really need for an install is
bootable Linux that can talk to your devices... That's one of the great
things about Gentoo.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-11 Thread Joseph

On 07/11/08 20:55, Albert Hopkins wrote:

On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 19:48 -0600, Joseph wrote:

How hard is to install Gentoo from a USB stick? Is it officially supported this 
type of installation?
I can find instruction here and there; and some notes that is not an easy task.

The reason I'm asking is that I'm putting a new PC together and want to get rid of CD all together. 


I personally have installed Gentoo from USB stick (RIPLinux) many times
without any issues.  There's really no difference.

With the way the Gentoo works, all you really need for an install is
bootable Linux that can talk to your devices... That's one of the great
things about Gentoo.


-a


How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing Gentoo from USB stick

2008-07-11 Thread Albert Hopkins
On Fri, 2008-07-11 at 20:33 -0600, Joseph wrote:
 How did you transfer bootable CD into a stick?

The short answer is who says it has to be a bootable CD image?.  There
are plenty of USB-based linux images out there... just use one of those.

Slightly longer answer: If it's a syslinux-like CD, dd the mbr.bin to
the stick, and copy the rest of the contents to the 1st partition.  That
should do it.*

* Haven't tested, but that should be the +/- the way of doing it.




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