Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-11 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Wednesday 11 October 2006 22:19, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 10/11/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The arecord apeared to work, but when I played it back with aplay -
> > silence!
>
> At this point you may want to try the patch that you found on the
> forums.  Unfortunately it doesn't apply cleanly against 1.0.13, and
> the original patch author didn't release it under any defined
> licensing terms, so it isn't legal for me to update it for 1.0.13 and
> publish it.  So you will either have to downgrade to 1.0.11 and use
> his patch as-is, or pester him for an update to .13, or even better
> re-publish his patch under the GPL like the rest of alsa.
>
> If you want to use the patch as-is, copy and save it to a file, such
> as conexant.patch.  Then download alsa-driver-1.0.11.tar.bz2 from [1],
>
> and put it in the same directory as the patch.  Then run (as root):
> > tar -xjf alsa-driver-1.0.11.tar.bz2
> > cd alsa-driver-1.0.11
> > patch -p1 --ignore-whitespace < ../conexant.patch
>
> patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_patch.h
> patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/Makefile
> patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_conexant.c
> patching file pci/hda/patch_conexant.c
>
> > ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel
>
> [configure output omitted]
>
> > make && make install && /etc/init.d/alsasound restart
>
> [make output omitted]
>
> This should work, but if you have problems (like crashes, devices not
> being found, etc), you might need to downgrade alsa-lib, alsa-plugins,
> alsa-firmware, alsa-headers, alsa-tools, and alsa-utils to version
> 1.0.11 as well with /etc/portage/package.mask.
>
> HTH,
> -Richard
>
> [1] ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
Thanks for the help & info.  I'm in the UK at the moment and it's getting 
late.  I'll try it in the morning 
Thanks
Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-11 Thread Richard Fish

On 10/11/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

The arecord apeared to work, but when I played it back with aplay - silence!


At this point you may want to try the patch that you found on the
forums.  Unfortunately it doesn't apply cleanly against 1.0.13, and
the original patch author didn't release it under any defined
licensing terms, so it isn't legal for me to update it for 1.0.13 and
publish it.  So you will either have to downgrade to 1.0.11 and use
his patch as-is, or pester him for an update to .13, or even better
re-publish his patch under the GPL like the rest of alsa.

If you want to use the patch as-is, copy and save it to a file, such
as conexant.patch.  Then download alsa-driver-1.0.11.tar.bz2 from [1],
and put it in the same directory as the patch.  Then run (as root):


tar -xjf alsa-driver-1.0.11.tar.bz2
cd alsa-driver-1.0.11
patch -p1 --ignore-whitespace < ../conexant.patch

patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/hda_patch.h
patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/Makefile
patching file alsa-kernel/pci/hda/patch_conexant.c
patching file pci/hda/patch_conexant.c

./configure --with-cards=hda-intel

[configure output omitted]

make && make install && /etc/init.d/alsasound restart

[make output omitted]

This should work, but if you have problems (like crashes, devices not
being found, etc), you might need to downgrade alsa-lib, alsa-plugins,
alsa-firmware, alsa-headers, alsa-tools, and alsa-utils to version
1.0.11 as well with /etc/portage/package.mask.

HTH,
-Richard

[1] ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-11 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 22:06, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Tried using arecord and got the following error
> > matt# arecord -d 10 cd -t wav -D copy test.wav
> > ALSA lib pcm.c:2143:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM copy
>
> It doesn't know what device "copy" is.  Try something like:
>
> arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D plug:dsnoop test.wav
>
> -Richard

The arecord apeared to work, but when I played it back with aplay - silence!
Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Richard Fish

On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Tried using arecord and got the following error
matt# arecord -d 10 cd -t wav -D copy test.wav
ALSA lib pcm.c:2143:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM copy


It doesn't know what device "copy" is.  Try something like:

arecord -d 10 -f cd -t wav -D plug:dsnoop test.wav

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 14:03, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400481: Stereo
> >   Pincap 0x08324: IN Detect
> >   Pin Default 0xb7a00100: [Fixed] Mic at Oth Mobile-In
> > Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
> >   Pin-ctls: 0x00:
> >   Power: 0x0
>
> Hmm, your laptop has a built-in microphone?  Are you able to record
> sound with that?
>
> Also, have you tried recording sound with another app, like arecord or
> krec?  Something that knows how to use the alsa API proper.
>
> -Richard

The laptop doesn't have a microphone, or if it does is well hidden
Tried using arecord and got the following error
matt# arecord -d 10 cd -t wav -D copy test.wav
ALSA lib pcm.c:2143:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM copy
arecord: main:550: audio open error: No such file or directory

Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 13:23, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could post
> > your .asoundrc for me to have a look
>
> Unfortunately Intel's HDA isn't really a sound card, but a standard
> way of talking to sound cards.  The actual chips are made by various
> manufacturers, and it really is a bit of a mess.
>
> 1. You should not have a .asoundrc.  Current alsa versions (since
> 1.0.9) will automatically use dmix/dsnoop as necessary.  In almost
> every case, it is wrong to have a .asoundrc.
>
> 2. Which version of alsa-drivers are you using?  1.0.13 would be my
> recommendation, although you may have some issues with MSI
> interrupts...
>
> 3. Can you post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 and also
> the output of "amixer"?
>
> -Richard


Just found a patch on the gentoo forums for this problem, but for the 
alsa-driver-1.0.11  I'm using 1.0.13
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-502890-highlight-microphone.html

Problem is I've never patched anything in my life.  How do I use this?

Matt
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Richard Fish

On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400481: Stereo
  Pincap 0x08324: IN Detect
  Pin Default 0xb7a00100: [Fixed] Mic at Oth Mobile-In
Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Power: 0x0


Hmm, your laptop has a built-in microphone?  Are you able to record
sound with that?

Also, have you tried recording sound with another app, like arecord or
krec?  Something that knows how to use the alsa API proper.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 13:23, Richard Fish wrote:
> On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could post
> > your .asoundrc for me to have a look
>
> Unfortunately Intel's HDA isn't really a sound card, but a standard
> way of talking to sound cards.  The actual chips are made by various
> manufacturers, and it really is a bit of a mess.
>
> 1. You should not have a .asoundrc.  Current alsa versions (since
> 1.0.9) will automatically use dmix/dsnoop as necessary.  In almost
> every case, it is wrong to have a .asoundrc.
>
> 2. Which version of alsa-drivers are you using?  1.0.13 would be my
> recommendation, although you may have some issues with MSI
> interrupts...
>
> 3. Can you post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 and also
> the output of "amixer"?
>
> -Richard

/proc/asound/card0/codec#0

Codec: Conexant ID 5047
Address: 0
Vendor Id: 0x14f15047
Subsystem Id: 0x103c30a5
Revision Id: 0x10
Default PCM: rates 0x040, bits 0x02, types 0x1
Default Amp-In caps: N/A
Default Amp-Out caps: N/A
Node 0x10 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1c 0x1c]
  PCM: rates 0x040, bits 0x02, types 0x1
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x11 [Audio Output] wcaps 0x611: Stereo Digital
  PCM: rates 0x040, bits 0x02, types 0x1
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x12 [Audio Input] wcaps 0x100d1b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x0e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x0e 0x0e] [0x8e 0x8e] [0x8e 0x8e] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] 
[0x80 0x80]
  PCM: rates 0x040, bits 0x02, types 0x1
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 6
 0x19 0x14 0x15* 0x1a 0x16 0x10
Node 0x13 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1e 0x1e]
  Pincap 0x081001c: OUT HP EAPD Detect
  Pin Default 0xc3111010: [Both] Speaker at Ext Left
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0xc0: OUT HP
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 3
 0x19* 0x10 0x16
Node 0x14 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1f 0x1f]
  Pincap 0x0833c: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x03811011: [Jack] Line In at Ext Left
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 2
 0x19* 0x16
Node 0x15 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1f 0x1f]
  Pincap 0x0833c: IN OUT HP Detect
  Pin Default 0x03a11012: [Jack] Mic at Ext Left
Conn = 1/8, Color = Black
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 3
 0x1c 0x19* 0x16
Node 0x16 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400401: Stereo
  Pincap 0x0860: IN
  Pin Default 0x99330100: [Fixed] CD at Int ATAPI
Conn = ATAPI, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x20: IN
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x17 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400481: Stereo
  Pincap 0x08324: IN Detect
  Pin Default 0xb7a00100: [Fixed] Mic at Oth Mobile-In
Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x18 [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x400701: Stereo Digital
  Pincap 0x0810: OUT
  Pin Default 0x21440100: [Jack] SPDIF Out at Sep Rear
Conn = RCA, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x00:
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 1
 0x11
Node 0x19 [Audio Mixer] wcaps 0x20050b: Stereo Amp-In
  Amp-In caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-In vals:  [0x07 0x07] [0x80 0x80] [0x80 0x80] [0x17 0x17]
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 4
 0x10 0x1b 0x1a 0x16
Node 0x1a [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x30050d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x00, nsteps=0x03, stepsize=0x1f, mute=0
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x00 0x00]
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 3
 0x15* 0x14 0x17
Node 0x1b [Audio Selector] wcaps 0x300501: Stereo
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 2
 0x14* 0x15
Node 0x1c [Audio Output] wcaps 0x41d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x17, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x80 0x80]
  PCM: rates 0x040, bits 0x02, types 0x1
  Power: 0x0
Node 0x1d [Pin Complex] wcaps 0x40058d: Stereo Amp-Out
  Amp-Out caps: ofs=0x1f, nsteps=0x1e, stepsize=0x05, mute=1
  Amp-Out vals:  [0x1f 0x1f]
  Pincap 0x08314: OUT Detect
  Pin Default 0x90100112: [Fixed] Speaker at Int N/A
Conn = Unknown, Color = Unknown
  Pin-ctls: 0x40: OUT
  Power: 0x0
  Connection: 3
 0x1c 0x19* 0x16
Node 0x1e [Vendor Defined Widget] wcaps 0xf0: Mono

output from amixer:

Simple mixer control 'Master',0
  Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 30
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 28 [93%] [7.50dB] [on]
  Front Right: Playback 28 [93%] [7.50dB] [on]
Simple mixer control 'PCM',0
  Capabilities: pvolume
  Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
  Limits: Playback 0 - 255
  Mono:
  Front Left: Playback 235 [92%] [-4.00dB]
  Front Right: Playback 235 [92%] [-4.00dB]
Simple mixer control 'Line',0
  Capabilities: cvolume cswitch cswitch-joined cswitch-exclu

Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Richard Fish

On 10/10/06, Matthew R. Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could post
your .asoundrc for me to have a look


Unfortunately Intel's HDA isn't really a sound card, but a standard
way of talking to sound cards.  The actual chips are made by various
manufacturers, and it really is a bit of a mess.

1. You should not have a .asoundrc.  Current alsa versions (since
1.0.9) will automatically use dmix/dsnoop as necessary.  In almost
every case, it is wrong to have a .asoundrc.

2. Which version of alsa-drivers are you using?  1.0.13 would be my
recommendation, although you may have some issues with MSI
interrupts...

3. Can you post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec#0 and also
the output of "amixer"?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 09:18, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 October 2006 14:36, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> > I'm getting nothing from the microphone.
> > In alsamixer I only have four bars: Master PCM Line Mic
> > With all at 90-100%  The mic doesn't work with line or mic set to
> > capture Is there a way to fix that?
>
> Sounds like there are only three options:
>
> 1. Mic is broken - safe to say it's not that
> 2. Kernel module is buggy - possible
> 3. Wrong kernel module or kernel compiled with wrong settings
>
> I'd check #3. What's the relevant output from lspci, what module is in
> use and if relevant what kernel options are enabled for that module?
>
> alan

I have <*> Sound card support in the kernel (2.6.17-r8)
and then I installed alsa-driver package  I configured it following the 
alsa-guide in the gentoo docs
the sound card is Intel High Definition Audio, lspci:
00:1b.0 Audio Device: Intel corporation 82801G (ICH 7 Family) High Definition 
Audio Contoller (rev 01)
driver =snd-hda-intel

Matt


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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 14:36, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> I'm getting nothing from the microphone.
> In alsamixer I only have four bars: Master PCM Line Mic
> With all at 90-100%  The mic doesn't work with line or mic set to
> capture Is there a way to fix that?

Sounds like there are only three options:

1. Mic is broken - safe to say it's not that
2. Kernel module is buggy - possible
3. Wrong kernel module or kernel compiled with wrong settings

I'd check #3. What's the relevant output from lspci, what module is in 
use and if relevant what kernel options are enabled for that module?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 07:25, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Tuesday 10 October 2006 12:42, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> > I'm trying to get skype set up on my new laptop and I've run into a
> > problem the sound card (Intel HDA) is setup and working (with mplayer
> > and amarok) I've installed skype and the interface is working.  There
> > nothing wrong with the headset (it works on my old laptop). At first
> > I kept getting "problem with sound device" error but I've solved that
> > but the microphone doesn't appear to be working.  When I make a test
> > call I can hear the skype lady but I can't here my message when they
> > try to play it back
> > I've checked the alsa mixer and the microphone is set to capture and
> > the volume up.  I don't know what I'm missing.  Sofar I havn't turned
> > up anything in the wiki or forums.
> > Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could
> > post your .asoundrc for me to have a look
>
> Skype is easy to set up, IF you have alsa working right...
>
> Using alsamixer, turn the mic vol right up, can you hear your own voice
> in the headset? Make sure you have set the correct mic device,
> select "Mic Boost" if it's there. Last resort is to deselect other
> channels one by one and see if one of them activates the mic. I once
> had a chipset where the mic wouldn't work if a certain IEC958 feature
> was on. Until you hear your own voice in the speaker it will never work
>
> Then in skype make sure you select the alsa/oss option as appropriate,
> it's somewhere in the Options. Skype uses alsa, make sure you do have
> full support in the kernel
>
> alan

I'm getting nothing from the microphone.
In alsamixer I only have four bars: Master PCM Line Mic
With all at 90-100%  The mic doesn't work with line or mic set to capture
Is there a way to fix that?

Matt

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Re: [gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 10 October 2006 12:42, Matthew R. Lee wrote:
> I'm trying to get skype set up on my new laptop and I've run into a
> problem the sound card (Intel HDA) is setup and working (with mplayer
> and amarok) I've installed skype and the interface is working.  There
> nothing wrong with the headset (it works on my old laptop). At first
> I kept getting "problem with sound device" error but I've solved that
> but the microphone doesn't appear to be working.  When I make a test
> call I can hear the skype lady but I can't here my message when they
> try to play it back
> I've checked the alsa mixer and the microphone is set to capture and
> the volume up.  I don't know what I'm missing.  Sofar I havn't turned
> up anything in the wiki or forums.
> Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could
> post your .asoundrc for me to have a look

Skype is easy to set up, IF you have alsa working right...

Using alsamixer, turn the mic vol right up, can you hear your own voice 
in the headset? Make sure you have set the correct mic device, 
select "Mic Boost" if it's there. Last resort is to deselect other 
channels one by one and see if one of them activates the mic. I once 
had a chipset where the mic wouldn't work if a certain IEC958 feature 
was on. Until you hear your own voice in the speaker it will never work

Then in skype make sure you select the alsa/oss option as appropriate, 
it's somewhere in the Options. Skype uses alsa, make sure you do have 
full support in the kernel

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[gentoo-user] Intel HDA soundcard, microphones and skype

2006-10-10 Thread Matthew R. Lee
I'm trying to get skype set up on my new laptop and I've run into a problem
the sound card (Intel HDA) is setup and working (with mplayer and amarok)  
I've installed skype and the interface is working.  There nothing wrong with 
the headset (it works on my old laptop). At first I kept getting "problem 
with sound device" error but I've solved that but the microphone doesn't 
appear to be working.  When I make a test call I can hear the skype lady but 
I can't here my message when they try to play it back
I've checked the alsa mixer and the microphone is set to capture and the 
volume up.  I don't know what I'm missing.  Sofar I havn't turned up anything 
in the wiki or forums.
Has anybody got skype woking with this soundcard.  Perhaps you could post 
your .asoundrc for me to have a look

Thanks
Matt
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