Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-26 Thread 4k3nd0
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On 10/24/2011 08:27 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 18:11:45 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 On 10/24/11 17:31, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 hi guys,
 
 somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx
 that pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to
 fix this?
 
 http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
 
 [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
 
 is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel
 (shader, GPGPU), which in almost all cases is a userspace bug
 or the timeout in fglrx is too low for the kernel in question.
 I'm no expert in tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you
 can do except wait for an update of the driver. You could also
 try the opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause
 those do their own heuristics to determine hanging or
 deadlocked compute- kernels.
 
 Best, Michael
 
 Thank you. Do you think using a newer version of xserver would
 help?
 
 Always worth a try imo. But I wouldn't expect too much from doing
 this. The driver thinks, that a compute-kernel hangs or is
 deadlocked. If this assumption is correct, the userspace app needs
 a fix otherwise the driver is faulty. Is this problem related to
 running a special app or DE? Or does it happen always?
 
 Best, Michael
 
 
I tried also updating to a newer Version of xorg-xserver als well
using the 3.0.0.-generic-12 .

Neither did it.

The problem seems to be gone with a Linux Kernel 3.1.0
(no-gentoo-patch). I using now the lastet ATI-Driver from the Webpage,
but can't tell how stable it is. I'll see it in around a week.

But thanks for the help!

Greeting's from Germany
4k3nd0

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-26 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Mittwoch 26 Oktober 2011, 11:15:52 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 On 10/24/2011 08:27 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 18:11:45 schrieb 4k3nd0:
  On 10/24/11 17:31, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
  hi guys,
  
  somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx
  that pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to
  fix this?
  
  http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
  
  [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
  
  is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel
  (shader, GPGPU), which in almost all cases is a userspace bug
  or the timeout in fglrx is too low for the kernel in question.
  I'm no expert in tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you
  can do except wait for an update of the driver. You could also
  try the opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause
  those do their own heuristics to determine hanging or
  deadlocked compute- kernels.
  
  Best, Michael
  
  Thank you. Do you think using a newer version of xserver would
  help?
  
  Always worth a try imo. But I wouldn't expect too much from doing
  this. The driver thinks, that a compute-kernel hangs or is
  deadlocked. If this assumption is correct, the userspace app needs
  a fix otherwise the driver is faulty. Is this problem related to
  running a special app or DE? Or does it happen always?
  
  Best, Michael
 
 I tried also updating to a newer Version of xorg-xserver als well
 using the 3.0.0.-generic-12 .

which is not a vanilla kernel.

vanilla-sources 3.0.7 is

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[gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread 4k3nd0
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hi guys,

somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that
pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?

http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N

I'm using the 11.9 ati-drivers, i got a ATI Readon HD6990 M

uname -a
Linux Slaxy 3.0.7-gentoo #1 SMP Sat Oct 22 20:44:41 CEST 2011 x86_64
Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux

Using xorg-server 1.10.4-r1

Greeting's from Germany
4k3nd0
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Hi,

Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 hi guys,
 
 somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that
 pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?
 
 http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N

[fglrx] ASIC hang happened

is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel (shader, GPGPU), which 
in almost all cases is a userspace bug or the timeout in fglrx is too low for 
the kernel in question.
I'm no expert in tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you can do except 
wait for an update of the driver.
You could also try the opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause 
those do their own heuristics to determine hanging or deadlocked compute-
kernels.

Best,
Michael





Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread 4k3nd0
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On 10/24/11 17:31, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 hi guys,
 
 somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that 
 pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?
 
 http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
 
 [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
 
 is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel (shader,
 GPGPU), which in almost all cases is a userspace bug or the timeout
 in fglrx is too low for the kernel in question. I'm no expert in
 tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you can do except wait
 for an update of the driver. You could also try the
 opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause those do
 their own heuristics to determine hanging or deadlocked compute- 
 kernels.
 
 Best, Michael
 
 
 
Thank you. Do you think using a newer version of xserver would help?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag 24 Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 hi guys,
 
 somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that
 pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?
 
 http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
 
 I'm using the 11.9 ati-drivers, i got a ATI Readon HD6990 M
 
 uname -a
 Linux Slaxy 3.0.7-gentoo #1 SMP Sat Oct 22 20:44:41 CEST 2011 x86_64
 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 
 Using xorg-server 1.10.4-r1
 
 Greeting's from Germany
 4k3nd0

well, the first thing is always: don't use patched kernels.

gentoo kernels are patched.

Use vanilla. See if the problems persist.

fglrx has been solid for me for the last half of a year. With uptimes of two 
weeks and more, reboots always caused by kernel updates.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 18:11:45 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 On 10/24/11 17:31, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  Hi,
  
  Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
  hi guys,
  
  somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that
  pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?
  
  http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
  
  [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
  
  is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel (shader,
  GPGPU), which in almost all cases is a userspace bug or the timeout
  in fglrx is too low for the kernel in question. I'm no expert in
  tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you can do except wait
  for an update of the driver. You could also try the
  opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause those do
  their own heuristics to determine hanging or deadlocked compute-
  kernels.
  
  Best, Michael
 
 Thank you. Do you think using a newer version of xserver would help?

Always worth a try imo. But I wouldn't expect too much from doing this. The 
driver thinks, that a compute-kernel hangs or is deadlocked. If this 
assumption is correct, the userspace app needs a fix otherwise the driver is 
faulty.
Is this problem related to running a special app or DE? Or does it happen 
always?

Best,
Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 18:49:36 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann:
 Am Montag 24 Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
  hi guys,
  
  somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx that
  pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to fix this?
  
  http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
  
  I'm using the 11.9 ati-drivers, i got a ATI Readon HD6990 M
  
  uname -a
  Linux Slaxy 3.0.7-gentoo #1 SMP Sat Oct 22 20:44:41 CEST 2011 x86_64
  Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2820QM CPU @ 2.30GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
  
  Using xorg-server 1.10.4-r1
  
  Greeting's from Germany
  4k3nd0
 
 well, the first thing is always: don't use patched kernels.
 
 gentoo kernels are patched.
 
 Use vanilla. See if the problems persist.

Good advice in general. But afaik the deadlock detection happens completely in 
the driver, so I am not convinced other parts of the kernel could cause this. 
I might be wrong about this though.

 fglrx has been solid for me for the last half of a year. With uptimes of two
 weeks and more, reboots always caused by kernel updates.

Best,
Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel Panic fglrx

2011-10-24 Thread 4k3nd0
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On 10/24/11 20:27, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 18:11:45 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 On 10/24/11 17:31, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Am Montag, 24. Oktober 2011, 16:36:00 schrieb 4k3nd0:
 hi guys,
 
 somehow my fglrx is unstable. Got sometime a crashing fglrx
 that pulling down the hole system. Someone maybe a idea to
 fix this?
 
 http://pastebin.com/izFnWD7N
 
 [fglrx] ASIC hang happened
 
 is a message indicating a deadlock in a compute-kernel
 (shader, GPGPU), which in almost all cases is a userspace bug
 or the timeout in fglrx is too low for the kernel in question.
 I'm no expert in tweaking fglrx, but afaict there's nothing you
 can do except wait for an update of the driver. You could also
 try the opensource-drivers (I think r600 in your case), cause
 those do their own heuristics to determine hanging or
 deadlocked compute- kernels.
 
 Best, Michael
 
 Thank you. Do you think using a newer version of xserver would
 help?
 
 Always worth a try imo. But I wouldn't expect too much from doing
 this. The driver thinks, that a compute-kernel hangs or is
 deadlocked. If this assumption is correct, the userspace app needs
 a fix otherwise the driver is faulty. Is this problem related to
 running a special app or DE? Or does it happen always?
 
 Best, Michael
 
 
First i suspect flash player, but it's randomly. There is no special
reason i can detect.

I will try using the other Kernel, maybe it will help.


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