[gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Pavel Volkov
Is anyone able to run Gnash or Lightspark in Gentoo?
Now is the second time I tried it (because yesterday I noticed that Gnash
performs not bad in another distro, Trisquel).
I'm on ~amd64. Both Gnash and Lightspark have similar problems in Firefox
and Chromium. Youtube videos stop and twitch, sound is distorted and has
noise.

Is anyone luckier than me in burying proprietary software?


Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Pavel Volkov negai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is anyone able to run Gnash or Lightspark in Gentoo?
 Now is the second time I tried it (because yesterday I noticed that Gnash
 performs not bad in another distro, Trisquel).
 I'm on ~amd64. Both Gnash and Lightspark have similar problems in Firefox
 and Chromium. Youtube videos stop and twitch, sound is distorted and has
 noise.

 Is anyone luckier than me in burying proprietary software?

For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
it's something. :)

http://youtube.com/html5



Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Tanstaafl

On 2013-08-06 10:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
it's something. :)

http://youtube.com/html5


Interesting... if you do enable HTML5 mode, and still have Flash 
installed, what happens? Is HTML5 'preferred'?




Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2013-08-06 10:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
 many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
 it's something. :)

 http://youtube.com/html5


 Interesting... if you do enable HTML5 mode, and still have Flash installed,
 what happens? Is HTML5 'preferred'?

Yes, some older unpopular videos that were uploaded before HTML5
support was added might not support it, but otherwise most videos seem
to play using HTML5 instead of Flash once you've opted-in.



Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 08/06/2013 10:24 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2013-08-06 10:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
 many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
 it's something. :)

 http://youtube.com/html5


 Interesting... if you do enable HTML5 mode, and still have Flash installed,
 what happens? Is HTML5 'preferred'?
 
 Yes, some older unpopular videos that were uploaded before HTML5
 support was added might not support it, but otherwise most videos seem
 to play using HTML5 instead of Flash once you've opted-in.
 

You're better off using media-video/get_flash_videos- to download
these anyway. As long as you don't need flash for anything else, there's
a huge number of video sites supported.

With it downloaded, you can use e.g. mplayer to move around the file
like any other video. And when you're done, you can keep it.




Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:32 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
 On 08/06/2013 10:24 AM, Paul Hartman wrote:
 On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:20 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote:
 On 2013-08-06 10:12 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:

 For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
 many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
 it's something. :)

 http://youtube.com/html5


 Interesting... if you do enable HTML5 mode, and still have Flash installed,
 what happens? Is HTML5 'preferred'?

 Yes, some older unpopular videos that were uploaded before HTML5
 support was added might not support it, but otherwise most videos seem
 to play using HTML5 instead of Flash once you've opted-in.


 You're better off using media-video/get_flash_videos- to download
 these anyway. As long as you don't need flash for anything else, there's
 a huge number of video sites supported.

 With it downloaded, you can use e.g. mplayer to move around the file
 like any other video. And when you're done, you can keep it.



net-misc/youtube-dl is another one that supports many sites and is
updated in portage quite often (to keep up with changes to the
websites).



Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Pavel Volkov
On Tuesday 06 August 2013 09:12:50 Paul Hartman wrote:
 For youtube you can enable HTML5 mode and avoid flash entirely for
 many videos (but not all). Does not help with other sites but at least
 it's something. :)
 
 http://youtube.com/html5

Yes, of course I enabled it years ago. I still need Flash on other websites 
(not only videos, there are Flash applets that let you listen to a sound if 
you click Play or something alike).
Youtube was just an example. Also, embedded Youtube videos are always Flash, 
correct me if I'm wrong.



Re: [gentoo-user] Killing Adobe Flash

2013-08-06 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Pavel Volkov negai...@gmail.com wrote:
 Is anyone able to run Gnash or Lightspark in Gentoo?

I take my 64 bit gentoo laptop everywhere and have never installed
flash (or similar) on it.  I told youtube that I use HTML5 which gives
me access to ~33% of videos.  I use virtualbox to run a 32 bit xubuntu
that is used only to view webpages that demand flash.  I start it up
~once/week.

Chris