Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On 13 Jul 2010, at 23:06, Mick wrote: ... The larger Y-shaped keyboard/mouse-to-USB adapters usually support non-USB-compatible PS/2 mice, though. I have one like this and it works for me: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9291 Does this Y-shaped dongle contain any electronics in it? Otherwise it wouldn't be any different to a single connector. Yes, I imagine so. I've used a number like this: http://gbennett.whsites.net/zencart/images/products/usbps2.jpg They are readily available from Chinese / HK sources on eBay or from LedShoppe.com, but I'm sure they're just the same as the one Paul linked to. I've never known a mouse or keyboard not to work with them, including 1990s Model Ms. They cause the mouse keyboard to appear as HID devices, which are a standard part of the USB specification. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On 12 Jul 2010, at 22:59, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332? ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1278964492sr=8-6 ... In my experience, the small PS/2 to USB mouse adapters like that do not contain a controller chip and only work on USB-compatible PS/2 mice. Those mice typically came with a USB adapter in the first place, so if yours didn't it could be that you're fighting a losing battle. I believe that mice supplied with these adaptors have internal circuitry that will detect and distinguish between whether they're connected to a PS2 port or a USB one, and behave appropriately. Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 12 July 2010 22:59:59 Paul Hartman wrote: In my experience, the small PS/2 to USB mouse adapters like that do not contain a controller chip and only work on USB-compatible PS/2 mice. Those mice typically came with a USB adapter in the first place, so if yours didn't it could be that you're fighting a losing battle. This is a vanilla PS/2 IBM rather old mouse (protocol ImPS/2). I've grown font of it over the years ... Oh dear! how sad can a geek get! O_O I'm still using an old PS/2-style keyboard with said USB adapter as well. It used to be white... now it's a dirty yellowish color. You can have my keyboard when you pry it from my cold dead hands... The larger Y-shaped keyboard/mouse-to-USB adapters usually support non-USB-compatible PS/2 mice, though. I have one like this and it works for me: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9291 Does this Y-shaped dongle contain any electronics in it? Otherwise it wouldn't be any different to a single connector. AFAIK it does, at least the one I have seems to work with dumb mice where the smaller connectors did not. I didn't buy mine from the site I linked to, but mine looks identical and they're probably all made in the same factory anyway.
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On Monday 12 July 2010 22:59:59 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have connected a conventional PS/2 mouse to a USB socket using this adaptor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332?ie=UTF8s=electronic sqid=1278964492sr=8-6 Unfortunately, it is not recognised by the kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 I also tried it on a Ubuntu laptop but it did not register at all. What do I need to get it going? In my experience, the small PS/2 to USB mouse adapters like that do not contain a controller chip and only work on USB-compatible PS/2 mice. Those mice typically came with a USB adapter in the first place, so if yours didn't it could be that you're fighting a losing battle. This is a vanilla PS/2 IBM rather old mouse (protocol ImPS/2). I've grown font of it over the years ... Oh dear! how sad can a geek get! O_O The larger Y-shaped keyboard/mouse-to-USB adapters usually support non-USB-compatible PS/2 mice, though. I have one like this and it works for me: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9291 Does this Y-shaped dongle contain any electronics in it? Otherwise it wouldn't be any different to a single connector. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On Tuesday 13 July 2010 19:00:27 Stroller wrote: On 12 Jul 2010, at 22:59, Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332? ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1278964492sr=8-6 ... In my experience, the small PS/2 to USB mouse adapters like that do not contain a controller chip and only work on USB-compatible PS/2 mice. Those mice typically came with a USB adapter in the first place, so if yours didn't it could be that you're fighting a losing battle. I believe that mice supplied with these adaptors have internal circuitry that will detect and distinguish between whether they're connected to a PS2 port or a USB one, and behave appropriately. Thanks Stroller, in all likelihood this mouse does not have any intelligence in it - it's just a plain old PS/2 mouse. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
[gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
Hi All, I have connected a conventional PS/2 mouse to a USB socket using this adaptor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1278964492sr=8-6 Unfortunately, it is not recognised by the kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 I also tried it on a Ubuntu laptop but it did not register at all. What do I need to get it going? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:01 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have connected a conventional PS/2 mouse to a USB socket using this adaptor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1278964492sr=8-6 Unfortunately, it is not recognised by the kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 I also tried it on a Ubuntu laptop but it did not register at all. What do I need to get it going? In my experience, the small PS/2 to USB mouse adapters like that do not contain a controller chip and only work on USB-compatible PS/2 mice. Those mice typically came with a USB adapter in the first place, so if yours didn't it could be that you're fighting a losing battle. The larger Y-shaped keyboard/mouse-to-USB adapters usually support non-USB-compatible PS/2 mice, though. I have one like this and it works for me: http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.9291 FWIW :)
Re: [gentoo-user] PS/2 mouse on a USB adaptor
Maybe you need a powered adapter like the one you need for a classic model m? Can't think of the brand I've seen offhand :/ On 7/12/10, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: Hi All, I have connected a conventional PS/2 mouse to a USB socket using this adaptor: http://www.amazon.co.uk/StarTech-com-Replacement-Mouse-USB- Adapter/dp/B0006G2OVG/ref=sr_1_6/275-4357142-7474332?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1278964492sr=8-6 Unfortunately, it is not recognised by the kernel: hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 1 I also tried it on a Ubuntu laptop but it did not register at all. What do I need to get it going? -- Regards, Mick -- Sent from my mobile device Kyle
