Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, 27 May 2009 10:01:12 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I only have one machine right now. Someone gave me a HP laptop but I haven't fixed it yet. Power connector is shorted out big time. Then for example on tty2 start sleep 300 ; /etc/init.d/xdm stop ; killall X and on tty1 do /etc/init.d/xdm start Another approach is to use acpid. I've read this tip here posted by Volker Hemmann IIRC. If you use acpid, there should be a file called /etc/acpi/default.sh Modify it, substituting the lines: 19 case $action in 20 power) 21/sbin/init 0 with 19 case $action in 20 power) 21/usr/bin/chvt 1 then do /etc/init.d/acpid restart. Now pressing the power button on your machine should switch to the active TTY to tty1 -- Best regards, Daniel
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:03, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Best way to do this is using a remote shell (SSH for example) in another machine. If that's not an option or X driver fails in conflicts with the kernel (mine did before I found a suitable config) then you're pretty much lost, cause your video is gone for good. You can try SYSREQ combinations to kill the server and if that fails even cleanly reboot the rig, but as I said before, depending on the problem your video is gone. -- Daniel da Veiga
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:03, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Best way to do this is using a remote shell (SSH for example) in another machine. If that's not an option or X driver fails in conflicts with the kernel (mine did before I found a suitable config) then you're pretty much lost, cause your video is gone for good. You can try SYSREQ combinations to kill the server and if that fails even cleanly reboot the rig, but as I said before, depending on the problem your video is gone. stick a chvt 1 after the xdm stop.
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:03:31 -0500, Dale wrote: I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Have you tried Alt-SysRq-R? -- Neil Bothwick You cannot really appreciate Dilbert unless you've read it in the original Klingon. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Håkon Alstadheim wrote: Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:03, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Best way to do this is using a remote shell (SSH for example) in another machine. If that's not an option or X driver fails in conflicts with the kernel (mine did before I found a suitable config) then you're pretty much lost, cause your video is gone for good. You can try SYSREQ combinations to kill the server and if that fails even cleanly reboot the rig, but as I said before, depending on the problem your video is gone. stick a chvt 1 after the xdm stop. Did a man chvt and that is interesting. I got to add that to the command just in case. ;-) Thanks Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 27 May 2009 08:03:31 -0500, Dale wrote: I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Have you tried Alt-SysRq-R? I haven't but I may try it now tho. I have never used SysRq before. This is a bit new to me. It has to be better than just pulling the plug tho. That's what I had to do last time. Sort of pissed me off since I had no warning that my keyboard would be as a useful as a screen door on a submarine. Adding that to my notes. Thanks. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Daniel da Veiga wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 10:03, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Hung Dang wrote: I often use Ctrl+F1 to F6 to back to the command line and if your X is fine you can back the X screen using Ctrl+F7. Or if you want to kill your X then Ctrl+Alt+Backspace may be helpful. Hung Dale wrote: I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-) That won't work because if xorg-server fails, my keyboard doesn't work when I switch to X. If the keyboard doesn't work, I can't switch back to anything or type anything. I done been through this one time. I'm trying to figure out how to get back to console with a keyboard that doesn't work at all. Best way to do this is using a remote shell (SSH for example) in another machine. If that's not an option or X driver fails in conflicts with the kernel (mine did before I found a suitable config) then you're pretty much lost, cause your video is gone for good. You can try SYSREQ combinations to kill the server and if that fails even cleanly reboot the rig, but as I said before, depending on the problem your video is gone. I only have one machine right now. Someone gave me a HP laptop but I haven't fixed it yet. Power connector is shorted out big time. I got some SysRq commands printed out tho. Question, do I have to hit the Alt key each time or what? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, 27 May 2009 09:58:44 -0500, Dale wrote: Have you tried Alt-SysRq-R? I haven't but I may try it now tho. I have never used SysRq before. Thhinking of the is is a bit new to me. It has to be better than just pulling the plug tho. That's what I had to do last time. You're thinking of the complete Alt-SysRq sequence to (relatively) cleanly reboot. Alt-SysRq-R returns keyboard control after it has been locked out by X. You should then be able to do Ctrl-Alt-F1 to get back to your VC. -- Neil Bothwick The word 'Windows' is a word out of an old dialect of the Apaches. It means: 'White man staring through glass-screen onto an hourglass...') signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
On Wed, 27 May 2009 10:01:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
I got some SysRq commands printed out tho. Question, do I have to hit
the Alt key each time or what?
Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual
full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B
Reboot
Even
If
System
Utterly
Broken
By ${DEITY} - this tagline picker is spooky at times :-O
--
Neil Bothwick
System halted - Press all keys at once to continue.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 27 May 2009 10:01:12 -0500, Dale wrote:
I got some SysRq commands printed out tho. Question, do I have to hit
the Alt key each time or what?
Hold down Atl, hold down SysRq, press each of the keys in turn. The usual
full sequence is R-E-I-S-U-B
Reboot
Even
If
System
Utterly
Broken
By ${DEITY} - this tagline picker is spooky at times :-O
Oh OK. That was what I was needing. Details !
Thanks much. I would have done this wrong - ly. That a word?
Dale
:-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Question about xorg and a kill process
I know the subject is a bit lacking but here goes. I'm thinking about trying this xorg-server upgrade again. I been thinking about a way to do this and not have to pull the plug on my rig if it fails, which I bet it does. This is the command I am thinking about trying. /etc/init.d/xdm start sleep 5m /etc/init.d/xdm stop I'm thinking this way. Start X first. If it fails, it will stop in 5 minutes and come back to a console. Think this will work? If xorg works, I can switch back to a console and ctrl C the command and carry on. Thoughts? Better ideas? Dale :-) :-)
