Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] shell ouput which file descriptor

2010-04-11 Thread Amit Dor-Shifer

permission issue?
any EACCES in strace output?
Amit

Harry Putnam wrote:

Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:

  

$cat /tmp/testfile
cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory
  
Thanks... 



Are you running cvs as root, or user, or ...?
  

I was running cvs as user, and now trying your tests... it appears the
trouble has stopped... doesn't occur now in cvs cmds either.

There was a reboot in between, so may never now what was going on.

Prior to rebooting I had tried to get a fresh env by ssh
u...@localhost from an xterm.  Hoping to rule out some oddball env
problem, but the file descriptor problem persisted.  However it has
apparently not survived a reboot.



Yikes... more mysterious than I reported above.

I see now that I get the goofy acting file descriptors when I'm in
console mode, but not in X.

And it appears only to happen in cvs commands, but again, not in X.

My sequence:

   Reboot just now.

   At console login:

login and call cvs command:

 cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er
 
 I see 83 lines scroll by.


cat er
cat: er: No such file or directory

Nothing has been redirected.

cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er|wc -l

I still see 83 lines but wc -l reports 0

(as it should)

So somehow the redirect is ignored and stderr goes to console
anyway. 


  Trying your test
  cat none 2er
   
   cat er

   cat: none: No such file or directory

So stderr is doing what it is supposed to do with cat but not a cvs
command. 
----   ---=---   -   
Now startx and from an xterm:

   cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er
   no output just like expected

Follow with:
cat er|wc -l
  83 
  (83 lines of ouput were captured with 2er)


So this is more puzzling than ever.  Weird phenomena in console that
stops when in X.



  




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] shell ouput which file descriptor

2010-04-10 Thread Harry Putnam
walt w41...@gmail.com writes:

 On 04/09/2010 08:19 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:
 This is not a question about cvs... its only used for example.

 I'm puzzled about a change in what I see when I run
 cvs -n update 2  /dev/null

 I've apparently lost the ability to remove stder from output.

 I used that command to trim out file descriptor 2 which used to leave
 a list of any changed files in the repo on the console, for a very
 long time.


 Suddenly there is no difference with:

cvs -n update 2  /dev/null
   cvs -n update

 The stuff on stderr still shows in the ouput either way.

 Further;
cvs -n update 2er  (redirect stder to ./er)

 Doesn't put anything in ./er

 However cvs -n update 1out   (redirect stdout to ./out)

 Does catch the output I'm after and leave out stderr. (as one would
 expect)

 So, again, apparently I've lost the ability to trim out stderr with a
 redirect to /dev/null (cvs -n update 2  /dev/null)

 ----   ---=---   -  

 The only thing I've been tinkering with is evaluating the
 /etc/DIR_COLORS file.  I switched from evaluating a custom version to
 evaluating the default version.

 I have no helpful advice, but I would try a couple of simple experiments:

 I have this in my home directory because I'm color blind:
 -rw-r--r--  1 wa1ter users   0 2007-08-27 18:29 .dir_colors

 $cat nonexistantfile
 cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory

 $cat nonexistantfile 2 /tmp/testfile
 $

 $cat /tmp/testfile
 cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory

Thanks... 

 Are you running cvs as root, or user, or ...?

I was running cvs as user, and now trying your tests... it appears the
trouble has stopped... doesn't occur now in cvs cmds either.

There was a reboot in between, so may never now what was going on.

Prior to rebooting I had tried to get a fresh env by ssh
u...@localhost from an xterm.  Hoping to rule out some oddball env
problem, but the file descriptor problem persisted.  However it has
apparently not survived a reboot.




[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] shell ouput which file descriptor

2010-04-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com writes:


 $cat /tmp/testfile
 cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory

 Thanks... 

 Are you running cvs as root, or user, or ...?

 I was running cvs as user, and now trying your tests... it appears the
 trouble has stopped... doesn't occur now in cvs cmds either.

 There was a reboot in between, so may never now what was going on.

 Prior to rebooting I had tried to get a fresh env by ssh
 u...@localhost from an xterm.  Hoping to rule out some oddball env
 problem, but the file descriptor problem persisted.  However it has
 apparently not survived a reboot.

Yikes... more mysterious than I reported above.

I see now that I get the goofy acting file descriptors when I'm in
console mode, but not in X.

And it appears only to happen in cvs commands, but again, not in X.

My sequence:

   Reboot just now.

   At console login:

login and call cvs command:

 cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er
 
 I see 83 lines scroll by.

cat er
cat: er: No such file or directory

Nothing has been redirected.

cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er|wc -l

I still see 83 lines but wc -l reports 0
(as it should)

So somehow the redirect is ignored and stderr goes to console
anyway. 

  Trying your test
  cat none 2er
   
   cat er
   cat: none: No such file or directory

So stderr is doing what it is supposed to do with cat but not a cvs
command. 
----   ---=---   -   
Now startx and from an xterm:
   cvs -n update /usr/local/common/base 2er
   no output just like expected

Follow with:
cat er|wc -l
  83 
  (83 lines of ouput were captured with 2er)

So this is more puzzling than ever.  Weird phenomena in console that
stops when in X.





[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] shell ouput which file descriptor

2010-04-09 Thread walt

On 04/09/2010 08:19 AM, Harry Putnam wrote:

This is not a question about cvs... its only used for example.

I'm puzzled about a change in what I see when I run
cvs -n update 2  /dev/null

I've apparently lost the ability to remove stder from output.

I used that command to trim out file descriptor 2 which used to leave
a list of any changed files in the repo on the console, for a very
long time.


Suddenly there is no difference with:

   cvs -n update 2  /dev/null
  cvs -n update

The stuff on stderr still shows in the ouput either way.

Further;
   cvs -n update 2er  (redirect stder to ./er)

Doesn't put anything in ./er

However cvs -n update 1out   (redirect stdout to ./out)

Does catch the output I'm after and leave out stderr. (as one would
expect)

So, again, apparently I've lost the ability to trim out stderr with a
redirect to /dev/null (cvs -n update 2  /dev/null)

----   ---=---   -  

The only thing I've been tinkering with is evaluating the
/etc/DIR_COLORS file.  I switched from evaluating a custom version to
evaluating the default version.


I have no helpful advice, but I would try a couple of simple experiments:

I have this in my home directory because I'm color blind:
-rw-r--r--  1 wa1ter users   0 2007-08-27 18:29 .dir_colors

$cat nonexistantfile
cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory

$cat nonexistantfile 2 /tmp/testfile
$

$cat /tmp/testfile
cat: nonexistantfile: No such file or directory

Are you running cvs as root, or user, or ...?