[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 05:50 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it... Thanks for contributing to the wine project! ...I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. I completely understand the hostility implied in your response and I don't for one nanosecond take it personally. I have just as much hostility saved up for M$, but absolutely none of it directed at you. I wish you every success with your new profession :-)
[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 05:50 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, walt wrote: On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pkwrote: Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but things have *really* changed since then! Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do to get them working. http://appdb.winehq.org/ I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first one to get it working :-) I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it. I tried TS maybe a year ago. It wouldn't even install much less run. There's no good way for Wine developers to debug the problems as it required a funded account for anyone to run it. Sorry, but I'd never risk REAL money trading a Windows app in like TS in Wine, vmware, xen or anything else that the app wasn't specifically written for. The very last thing I wanted to do with this thread is create some sort of religious war. It's not my intent. I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. Yes, M$ wants us there, and you can go check the TS forums (or maybe you can't if you don't have a trading account - I don't remember) to find the 50 times I've asked TS to port their platform to any distro, any revision of Linux. The number of people responding in the positive is large, but TS has no visible intention of do it so I'm locked in. Please, let's drop the M$ stuff from this discussion. R will like work out nicely for me. I can run the trading on windows, because it's the only practical solution, but I can share a drive over the network and use R on Gentoo reading those files. Please don't assume that because I use Windows that I prefer it. FAR FROM IT! With best regards, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, walt wrote: > On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pk wrote: > >>> Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... > >> No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform >> using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are >> therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... > > So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a > couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my > joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. > > I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit > windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but > things have *really* changed since then! > > Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you > to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. > > They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs > that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do > to get them working. > > http://appdb.winehq.org/ > > I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first > one to get it working :-) I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it. I tried TS maybe a year ago. It wouldn't even install much less run. There's no good way for Wine developers to debug the problems as it required a funded account for anyone to run it. Sorry, but I'd never risk REAL money trading a Windows app in like TS in Wine, vmware, xen or anything else that the app wasn't specifically written for. The very last thing I wanted to do with this thread is create some sort of religious war. It's not my intent. I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. Yes, M$ wants us there, and you can go check the TS forums (or maybe you can't if you don't have a trading account - I don't remember) to find the 50 times I've asked TS to port their platform to any distro, any revision of Linux. The number of people responding in the positive is large, but TS has no visible intention of do it so I'm locked in. Please, let's drop the M$ stuff from this discussion. R will like work out nicely for me. I can run the trading on windows, because it's the only practical solution, but I can share a drive over the network and use R on Gentoo reading those files. Please don't assume that because I use Windows that I prefer it. FAR FROM IT! With best regards, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pk wrote: Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but things have *really* changed since then! Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do to get them working. http://appdb.winehq.org/ I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first one to get it working :-)
