Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 23:45:41 Iain Buchanan wrote: On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 09:48 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: I'm intrigued. How do you connect displays to them? I assume you'd need one for at least the first steps of installing an OS, no? no :) There is a serial port which is good enough for a console, which you can use until your network is working. All very well if you happen to have such a device lying around. I don't, however, and Google doesn't show me a source of them either, so I'll just wait for something more suitable to come along. Cheaper, too, with any luck, such as the devices Neil mentioned on Monday. Thanks anyway. -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 10:28 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: All very well if you happen to have such a device lying around. I don't, however, and Google doesn't show me a source of them either, so I'll just wait for something more suitable to come along. Cheaper, too, with any luck, such as the devices Neil mentioned on Monday. Thanks anyway. no probs, they aren't cheap, but if you need the extra features, they're well worth it. Instead (as Neal or someone suggested) I'd go for a mini-itx atom board - easy to compile for, low noise, and many are fanless. Many come with gigabit (good for the router), multiple usb, sata, and so on. Some have sockets, some have the cpu built in. The Atom D510 is even dual core! have fun putting it together! -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when he is called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason. -- Oscar Wilde
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 04:55:05 Iain Buchanan wrote: We buy about 5 - 10 of these (started on the net4801, now the net5501) per year at work: http://www.yawarra.com.au/hw-net5501.php And make them do various things ranging in intensity from data servers to gateway/firewall/routers and so on. We've used IDE and flash in them, usually IDE for the convenience. We compile for x86. The 4 network ports are nice, and there's some GPIO to boot. I'm intrigued. How do you connect displays to them? I assume you'd need one for at least the first steps of installing an OS, no? -- Rgds Peter.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On Tue, 2010-05-25 at 09:48 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 25 May 2010 04:55:05 Iain Buchanan wrote: We buy about 5 - 10 of these (started on the net4801, now the net5501) per year at work: http://www.yawarra.com.au/hw-net5501.php And make them do various things ranging in intensity from data servers to gateway/firewall/routers and so on. We've used IDE and flash in them, usually IDE for the convenience. We compile for x86. The 4 network ports are nice, and there's some GPIO to boot. I'm intrigued. How do you connect displays to them? I assume you'd need one for at least the first steps of installing an OS, no? no :) There is a serial port which is good enough for a console, which you can use until your network is working. After you've set up the first one, then we copy the image to the next. -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Nothing is as simple as it seems at first Or as hopeless as it seems in the middle Or as finished as it seems in the end.
[gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
Grant emailgrant at gmail.com writes: small, cheap, and power-efficient. Those are *keywords* for embedded Gentoo. There is an excellent group of 'over achievers' therein who will pummel you with excellent advice and minucia down to the code snippets and hardware advantages of this quest you are seeking. Beware, it often becomes a life long passion to the point of an addition. Here's an example: http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-embedded/ See my posting on 1Apr2010 as an example thread on this very issue. hth, James
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On 24 May 2010, at 14:11, James wrote: ... Beware, it often becomes a life long passion to the point of an addition. This is exactly what I fear of using such specialist hardware! Far better to burn a few watts, than to have to learn such intricacies! http://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-embedded/ See my posting on 1Apr2010 as an example thread on this very issue. I'm enthusiastic to read this, but I can't find it. Could you give the exact title or a direct link to it? (perhaps on gmane?) Stroller.
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: {OT} Basic device for a Gentoo router/firewall?
On Mon, 2010-05-24 at 20:39 +0100, Stroller wrote: On 24 May 2010, at 14:11, James wrote: ... Beware, it often becomes a life long passion to the point of an addition. This is exactly what I fear of using such specialist hardware! Far better to burn a few watts, than to have to learn such intricacies! We buy about 5 - 10 of these (started on the net4801, now the net5501) per year at work: http://www.yawarra.com.au/hw-net5501.php And make them do various things ranging in intensity from data servers to gateway/firewall/routers and so on. We've used IDE and flash in them, usually IDE for the convenience. We compile for x86. The 4 network ports are nice, and there's some GPIO to boot. They offer a range of free distributions for various purposes: http://www.yawarra.com.au/ti-software.php#free some are just links to the projects, some are pre-built for the device. Would be good to get you started before you've customised it the way you like. That's an Australian company, but the boards come from http://www.soekris.com/ so you may be able to order from them and build / buy your own case. hth, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Lucas' Law: Good will always win, because evil hires the _stupid_ engineers.
