[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD
On 2015-07-15, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: In my impetuous youth, The first time I got to work under an old ATT unix license, we had several heated debates with nerds from DC and Jersey. turns out I was right; you could kill an phone switch with a single shot (and old att 3Bx series). Back in the 80s I worked for a company that made/sold radio-telephony mobile and base station equipment (which is basically a PBX connected to a bank of radio transceivers instead of phone sets). They had more than a few systems installed in various Central and South American countries during the 60s and 70s (the worse the standard copper infrastructure, the more important mobile phones tended to be). The field service guys told me that a not uncommon failure mode for the base station equipment was bullet holes. It turns out that one of the first things you do during a coup in a small central/south american county is take over or disable the radio-telphone base stations. [Back then the base stations were much higher power and covered much larger areas than a cellular base station does these days.] -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Is something VIOLENT at going to happen to a gmail.comGARBAGE CAN?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD
On 07/13/2015 10:10 AM, Grant Edwards wrote: With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble. If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :) Brilliant statement:: Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge. In my impetuous youth, The first time I got to work under an old ATT unix license, we had several heated debates with nerds from DC and Jersey. turns out I was right; you could kill an phone switch with a single shot (and old att 3Bx series). I took out a .338 with a questionable round and one shot turned off 3 out of 4 drives and most of the processors. The a_holes went back to their agency; and I lost some very valuable potential clients. But Grant is most correct!; if it ain't fun why fork with it? I did become great friends with some folks from the jersey labs.. cheers! James
[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes: It turns out that one of the first things you do during a coup in a small central/south american county is take over or disable the radio-telphone base stations. [Back then the base stations were much higher power and covered much larger areas than a cellular base station does these days.] Yep:: Then when I got my first research lab, guess what was our first 'Big Donation' ? A semi trailer full of every make of those old att unix systems; from 3B2's own up the ladder to working switchgear. We wiped them clean and put Mt. Xinu unix (BSD) on them just to tick off the att folks Funny thing was they just kept giving us more and more equipment... Kids now a days do not get to play with the 'toys' we did in college. At poker flats [1] we got to shoot off rockets into the ionosphere. Try that one today The father of the modern rocket [2] taught my son Multi-Variable Calculus Small world when you get down to it Want to see the latest in Mach 7 guns? cheers! James [1] http://www.pfrr.alaska.edu/ [2] http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/lebanons-forgotten-space-race-in-1961-manoug-manougian-aimed-the-middle-east-at-the-stars
[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD
On 2015-07-12, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble. If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :) There's thermite: http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/ And mechanical shredding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZdZGKyu9hc Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwardsYow! Sometime in 1993 at NANCY SINATRA will lead a gmail.comBLOODLESS COUP on GUAM!!
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD
Am Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:03:10 + (UTC) schrieb Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com: On 2015-07-12, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote: With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble. If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :) OK, you have a point ;-) . There's thermite: http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/ And mechanical shredding: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZdZGKyu9hc Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge. That does look fun! However, I meant along the lines of destroying the disk surface, because I want to give the HDDs away for recycling (a computer chain I occasionally buy from collects old hardware for this purpose). Good for the environment and all that :-) . -- Marc Joliet -- People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't - Bjarne Stroustrup pgpsxCV8EQGLj.pgp Description: Digitale Signatur von OpenPGP