[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-15 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-15, wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote:

 In my impetuous youth, The first time I got to work under an old
 ATT unix license, we had several heated debates with nerds from DC
 and Jersey. turns out I was right; you could kill an phone switch
 with a single shot (and old att 3Bx series).

Back in the 80s I worked for a company that made/sold radio-telephony
mobile and base station equipment (which is basically a PBX connected
to a bank of radio transceivers instead of phone sets).  They had more
than a few systems installed in various Central and South American
countries during the 60s and 70s (the worse the standard copper
infrastructure, the more important mobile phones tended to be).

The field service guys told me that a not uncommon failure mode for
the base station equipment was bullet holes.

It turns out that one of the first things you do during a coup in a
small central/south american county is take over or disable the
radio-telphone base stations.  [Back then the base stations were much
higher power and covered much larger areas than a cellular base
station does these days.]

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Is something VIOLENT
  at   going to happen to a
  gmail.comGARBAGE CAN?




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-15 Thread wireless

On 07/13/2015 10:10 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:


With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is
unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble.

If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :)


Brilliant statement::


Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge.



In my impetuous youth, The first time I got to work under an old
ATT unix license, we had several heated debates with nerds from DC
and Jersey. turns out I was right; you could kill an phone switch
with a single shot (and old att 3Bx series).

I took out a .338 with a questionable round and one shot turned off
3 out of 4 drives and most of the processors. The a_holes went back
to their  agency; and I lost some very valuable potential clients.
But Grant is most correct!; if it ain't fun why fork with it?

I did become great friends with some folks from the jersey labs..

cheers!
James



[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-15 Thread James
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards at gmail.com writes:


 It turns out that one of the first things you do during a coup in a
 small central/south american county is take over or disable the
 radio-telphone base stations.  [Back then the base stations were much
 higher power and covered much larger areas than a cellular base
 station does these days.]


Yep:: Then when I got my first research lab, guess what was our first
'Big Donation' ?   A semi trailer full of every make of those old att
unix systems; from 3B2's own up the ladder to working switchgear.
We wiped them clean and put Mt. Xinu unix (BSD) on them just to tick
off the att folks  Funny thing was they just kept giving us more and
more equipment...


Kids now a days do not get to play with the 'toys' we did in college.
At poker flats [1] we got to shoot off rockets into the ionosphere. Try
that one today The father of the modern rocket [2] taught my son
Multi-Variable Calculus Small world when you get down to it

Want to see the latest in Mach 7 guns?




cheers!
James

[1] http://www.pfrr.alaska.edu/

[2]
http://motherboard.vice.com/blog/lebanons-forgotten-space-race-in-1961-manoug-manougian-aimed-the-middle-east-at-the-stars




[gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-13 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2015-07-12, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:

 With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is
 unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble.

If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :)

There's thermite:

  
http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/

And mechanical shredding:

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZdZGKyu9hc

Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge.

-- 
Grant Edwards   grant.b.edwardsYow! Sometime in 1993
  at   NANCY SINATRA will lead a
  gmail.comBLOODLESS COUP on GUAM!!




Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Securely deletion of an HDD

2015-07-13 Thread Marc Joliet
Am Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:03:10 + (UTC)
schrieb Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com:

 On 2015-07-12, Marc Joliet mar...@gmx.de wrote:
 
  With regards to the other replies: I think physical destruction is
  unnecessary, and I don't really want to go through the trouble.
 
 If it's trouble rather than fun, then you're doing it wrong. :)

OK, you have a point ;-) .

 There's thermite:
 
   
 http://hackaday.com/2008/09/16/how-to-thermite-based-hard-drive-anti-forensic-destruction/
 
 And mechanical shredding:
 
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZdZGKyu9hc
 
 Others favor a high-powered rifle or an 8lb sledge.

That does look fun!  However, I meant along the lines of destroying the disk
surface, because I want to give the HDDs away for recycling (a computer chain I
occasionally buy from collects old hardware for this purpose).  Good for the
environment and all that :-) .

-- 
Marc Joliet
--
People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we
don't - Bjarne Stroustrup


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