Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 14/04/09 ABCD said:

 What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
 usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

Cool, I didn't know that one. 

Nothing listed though.

Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 14/04/09 ABCD said:

 What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
 usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

 Cool, I didn't know that one.

 Nothing listed though.

 Mike

To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
depclean, like on mine I get this:

$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

Calculating dependencies ... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
app-misc/strigi-0.6.4
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.80
dev-python/dbus-python-0.83.0-r1
dev-util/monodevelop-2.0
dev-util/subversion-1.6.1
gnome-base/gconf-2.24.0
gnome-base/gnome-keyring-2.22.3-r1
gnome-base/libbonobo-2.24.1
kde-base/kdebase-kioslaves-4.2.2
kde-base/kdelibs-4.2.2-r1
media-libs/libgphoto2-2.4.4
media-video/vlc-0.9.9a
net-dns/avahi-0.6.24-r2
net-ftp/filezilla-3.2.3.1
net-im/pidgin-2.5.5
net-misc/networkmanager-0.7.0
net-print/cups-1.3.10
net-wireless/wpa_supplicant-0.6.9
sys-apps/hwinfo-14.19
x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.5.0
x11-misc/google-gadgets-0.10.5
xfce-base/xfce4-session-4.6.0

so all of those packages explicitly depend on dbus and very likely
will want it to be running :)



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
 depclean, like on mine I get this:
 
 $ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv   
Password: 

Calculating dependencies... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76

Repeating...

msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dev-libs/dbus-glib -pv

Calculating dependencies... done!
  dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76 pulled in by:
media-gfx/ristretto-0.0.21
media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.5.1-r3
media-sound/audacious-1.5.1-r1
xfce-base/thunar-0.9.3
xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.4.3

Still odd since I have -dbus in my make.conf.

Mike


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Michael P. Soulier
msoul...@digitaltorque.ca wrote:
 On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 To see which package(s) pulled in dbus in your setup you can use
 depclean, like on mine I get this:

 $ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv

 msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dbus -pv
 Password:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
  sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76

 Repeating...

 msoul...@anton:~$ sudo emerge --depclean dev-libs/dbus-glib -pv

 Calculating dependencies... done!
  dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76 pulled in by:
media-gfx/ristretto-0.0.21
media-plugins/audacious-plugins-1.5.1-r3
media-sound/audacious-1.5.1-r1
xfce-base/thunar-0.9.3
xfce-base/xfdesktop-4.4.3

 Still odd since I have -dbus in my make.conf.

That only disabled dbus when it is optional. Since you have packages
that /require/ dbus (with no option to disable it), I guess that's
where it is coming from. Specifically it looks like XFCE.



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-17 Thread Michael P. Soulier
On 17/04/09 Paul Hartman said:

 That only disabled dbus when it is optional. Since you have packages
 that /require/ dbus (with no option to disable it), I guess that's
 where it is coming from. Specifically it looks like XFCE.

That would follow with it running as me instead of root. It's being started
when I login.

Mike
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touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.
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[gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread ABCD
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Michael P. Soulier wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I'm looking at my system and I'm surprised to find dbus running, since I put
 -dbus -hal in my /etc/make.conf. 
 
 msoul...@anton:~$ ps -ef | grep dbus | grep -v grep
 msoulier  9221 1  0 Apr12 ?00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --fork
 --print-pid 4 --print-address 6 --session
 msoulier  9222 1  0 Apr12 tty1 00:00:00 /usr/bin/dbus-launch
 --sh-syntax --exit-with-session
 
 msoul...@anton:~$ rc-config list | grep dbus
   dbus 
 
 I didn't configure it to start, so something started it. I'm running XFCE4 so
 I suspect it started it, since it's running as me and not root.
 
 So lets see who needs it.
 
 msoul...@anton:~$ equery belongs /usr/bin/dbus-daemon
 [ Searching for file(s) /usr/bin/dbus-daemon in *... ]
 sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 (/usr/bin/dbus-daemon)
 msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --verbose --depclean sys-apps/dbus
 
 Calculating dependencies... done!
   sys-apps/dbus-1.2.3-r1 pulled in by:
 dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.76
 
 No packages selected for removal by depclean
 Packages installed:   631
 Packages in world:155
 Packages in system:   51
 Required packages:631
 Number to remove: 0
 msoul...@anton:~$ emerge --pretend --verbose --depclean sys-apps/dbus-glib
 No packages selected for removal by depclean
 
 That's odd. Nothing needs it? Then who started it?
 
 It's daemonized so I don't see a parent process beyond init.
 
 Mike

What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dbus running but who started it?

2009-04-14 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:14 PM, ABCD en.a...@gmail.com wrote:
SNIP

 What is the output of `/etc/init.d/dbus needsme` and `/etc/init.d/dbus
 usesme`, and are any of the listed services started?

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 ABCD

Didn't know about those two commands. Interesting. Thanks!

dragonfly ~ # /etc/init.d/dbus needsme
consolekit cupsd hald
dragonfly ~ # /etc/init.d/dbus usesme

dragonfly ~ #