[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Albert W. Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Again, I apologize for the outage.  We'll be back online next week and
 hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like
 this when they arise. So please have patience with us.

As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem
with that.

What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. I
mean, it would have been nice, if there were some sort of I'll be
back message, when users try to access http://packages.gentoo.org/.
Or at least a message on the mailing list and more importantly, on
the Gentoo homepage would have been good.

Alexander Skwar

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Dan Cowsill
On 8/10/07, Bo Ørsted Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Friday 10 August 2007 09:27:17 Alexander Skwar wrote:
  Albert W. Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Again, I apologize for the outage.  We'll be back online next week and
   hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like
   this when they arise. So please have patience with us.
 
  As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem
  with that.
 
  What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. [...]

 Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait...

 --
 Bo Andresen



I definitely agree that the situation would have benefited from better
communication.  I mean, look at this thread (and others resembling
it).  If there was a little explanation earlier on, we could have
avoided the panic and dissemination of false information that
followed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:09 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote:

 If there was a little explanation earlier on, we could have
 avoided the panic and dissemination of false information that
 followed.

Panic? A web site was inaccessible, that's all. It's not as though the
four horsemen of the apocalypse came riding in!

Some people really do need to get a little perspective.


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What if there were no hypothetical situations?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 10 August 2007 18:01:09 Dan Cowsill wrote:
Again, I apologize for the outage.  We'll be back online next week
and hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with
issues like this when they arise. So please have patience with us.
  
   As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem
   with that.
  
   What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that.
   [...]
 
  Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait...

 I definitely agree that the situation would have benefited from better
 communication. 

Of course it could. That's besides the point. The point is if you want 
immediate and professional reactions everytime something happens you should 
be paying someone to monitor things.. If you expect volunteers to do the job 
you should cut them some slack when something goes wrong..

 I mean, look at this thread (and others resembling it).  If there was a
 little explanation earlier on, we could have avoided the panic and
 dissemination of false information that followed. 

As could just not panicking and avoiding spreading false information everytime 
your favourite web page isn't up when you need it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:55:39 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:

  What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that.
  [...]  
 
 Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait...

Don't forget that some people DO give money to Gentoo :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 10 August 2007 09:27:17 Alexander Skwar wrote:
 Albert W. Hopkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Again, I apologize for the outage.  We'll be back online next week and
  hopefully after that we'll have a better way of dealing with issues like
  this when they arise. So please have patience with us.

 As far as I'm concerned, it's fine that the site is down. No problem
 with that.

 What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that. [...]

Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait...

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Bo Andresen


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Dan Cowsill
On 8/10/07, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:09 -0400, Dan Cowsill wrote:

  If there was a little explanation earlier on, we could have
  avoided the panic and dissemination of false information that
  followed.

 Panic? A web site was inaccessible, that's all. It's not as though the
 four horsemen of the apocalypse came riding in!

 Some people really do need to get a little perspective.


 --
 Neil Bothwick

 What if there were no hypothetical situations?



Well of course.  I never suspected the demise of the distribution
because of a hiccup in the website.  But some people did, and some
people always will.  That was my point.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-10 Thread Bo Ørsted Andresen
On Friday 10 August 2007 17:15:33 Neil Bothwick wrote:
 On Fri, 10 Aug 2007 16:55:39 +0200, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
   What I DO find bad, is that there was no communication about that.
   [...]
 
  Maybe that means you should get your money back. Oh, wait...

 Don't forget that some people DO give money to Gentoo :)

Yeah, well.. it's still on a volunteer basis... But you have a point. ;)

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[gentoo-user] Re: packages.gentoo.org down?

2007-08-07 Thread Alexander Skwar
Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Alexander Skwar wrote:

 Is it just me, or is http://packages.gentoo.org/ not available?
 
 Port 80 closed, ping answers (RTT ~216ms). Tested from Argentina.

Thx. So it's not just me. 

BTW: ping time: ~180ms, from Switzerland. VERY slow. Traceroute isn't
helpful either:

17  nero-gw.Level3.net (63.211.200.246)  193.119 ms  202.437 ms  199.503 ms
18  corv-car1-gw.nero.net (207.98.64.177)  216.742 ms  194.857 ms  190.510 ms

and after that, no more replies :(

Alexander Skwar

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